The Truth About Flushing

[gumball]

wow this is a cool thread im very interested in this "drowning" the roots process as you stated earlier in the thread it makes the curing process much faster as the fermentation process starts earlier and this is exactly what i need. i run a perpetual op and cant really have my herb sitting around in jars for a month. now i just have a ? sorry if you already covered it in previous pages i only got through the first 5 lol. anyway i run hydro flood and drain tables in flower so should i just run my pump and flood 24/7 for the last 7 to 10 days with tap water? my timer once went out on me and made my pump run for 2 days, needless to say i found the leaves where very droopy. im assuming this would be a normal occurrence for this procedure right.
anyway thanks for the info in advance and good info love it +rep riddleme

Running the pump 24 hours or long enough each day to keep the roots saturated will do it. You may find that 2 or 3 several hour floods may be enough to soak everything for the entire time. Hope this helps

 

[cannabisguru]

not a bad post.. but I've seen way better.

There is a lot of misinformation in this thread..

example: "Preharvest flushing puts the plant(s) under serious stress. The plant has to deal with nutrient deficiencies in a very important part of its cycle"

As long as you keep giving the plant water during the last two weeks before harvesting.. the plant will be just fine. Also, not giving the plant any nutrients for the last two weeks before harvesting.. WILL NOT cause any "deficiencies" because the plant only has two weeks before its harvested anyhow.

Keep it simple guys... growing is not rocket science.. but I've noticed that a good majority of you seem to make it MUCH harder than it really is. Don't make it so complicated for yourself.

Growing is an art form.. you have to be 'one with the plant' so to say. But when you start getting all technical and everything.. your just making it harder for yourself and others that might be taking in your information that you post on here.

No need to get all technical about growing.. its not that hard.


peace.

 

[riddleme]

not a bad post.. but I've seen way better.

There is a lot of misinformation in this thread..

example: "Preharvest flushing puts the plant(s) under serious stress. The plant has to deal with nutrient deficiencies in a very important part of its cycle"

As long as you keep giving the plant water during the last two weeks before harvesting.. the plant will be just fine. Also, not giving the plant any nutrients for the last two weeks before harvesting.. WILL NOT cause any "deficiencies" because the plant only has two weeks before its harvested anyhow.

Keep it simple guys... growing is not rocket science.. but I've noticed that a good majority of you seem to make it MUCH harder than it really is. Don't make it so complicated for yourself.

Growing is an art form.. you have to be 'one with the plant' so to say. But when you start getting all technical and everything.. your just making it harder for yourself and others that might be taking in your information that you post on here.

No need to get all technical about growing.. its not that hard.


peace.

You couldn't be more wrong, but that is ok, everyone is entitled to their opinion

 

[Illumination]

right ...thats what we are saying...no need for flushing whatsoever...eliminating an undesired step to me seems simpler than uselessly performing something that accomplishes nothing at the least to being very detrimental at the worst. I really do not follow your logic in stating that flushing is easier...

And it is preposterous to think that in two weeks after flushing and not feeding will not cause deficiencies... just a flush will show deficiencies in 2-3 days if no nutrients are added...

Can you please explain what caused you to say this as well as why plants do not need nutrients the last two weeks of life? Totally goes against everything I have learned and witnessed

Gluvr I do like you and usually find wisdom in your posts but you threw me for a loop here...And until it can be empirically shown that flush helps I may consider trying it again...but my experince has shown me that it is detrimental not beneficial

Namaste'

 

[riddleme]

If you follow my threads, you will see two things for sure, One I keep everything as stupid simple as possible. Yes some of my post are very technical but are there to back up what I am saying and when I say it, I try to explain it in non technical terms so everyone understands.

Two that my buds are VERY POTENT, I am lucky enough to live in a legal state and have met with other members from this site and shared my buds with them. They have come back here and done smoke reports on my buds and well if you follow my threads you have seen this.

My point here is everything I have put here is about better, higher quality medicine. I have also stated over and over I don't care if you follow me, I don't care if you disagree with me, I don't care if you think I am the best thing to happen since buttered bread. All I truely ask of you is to understand that I have never lied to you! I have not ever presented one bit of bad info, which is why I have backed up my info with technical articles, you do not have to get all technical to understand what I tell you

 

[keanureeves]

this thread has convinced this first time grower.. no flush before chop... i will be giving a couple of days dark before harvest, though..

 

[drgreentm]

Running the pump 24 hours or long enough each day to keep the roots saturated will do it. You may find that 2 or 3 several hour floods may be enough to soak everything for the entire time. Hope this helps

cool gumball much appreciated im going to try it this next harvest.

 

[drgreentm]

As long as you keep giving the plant water during the last two weeks before harvesting.. the plant will be just fine. Also, not giving the plant any nutrients for the last two weeks before harvesting.. WILL NOT cause any "deficiencies" because the plant only has two weeks before its harvested anyhow.

wow i never seen a plant flushed "correctly" that didnt show signs of deficiencies as that is the entire point of the flush to make the plant leach itself of its reserve supplies basically putting plants in a nute lock to make it do this. maybe using a leaching agent would make the deficiencies less apparent but still hard to believe you plant would be as green and vibrant as it was before a flush period.

 

[frogster]

Mold at lower temps... hmm... I would have thought the opposite.. I will research that.. as my room gets down into the high 50's . lights out... during the day!!! I was also contemplating chopping my larger buds , letting my lower popcorn mature a bit and then revegging a few of my plants.. so, drowning them for more than? xxxx amount of time would completely kill the root system.. Shit...........

 

[Wolverine97]

hey guys,
here's a photo of the flowering cab taken a few days ago:

as you can see in the far right corner is the most mature plant, she is an OG kush x Bubba Kush from seed, LST'd. she's in middle of week 7 right now.
here's some bud shots:

im interested in trying the drowning method, this is my first harvest. the younger plants in there cant suddenly have a few days of darkness...
so
looks like i will have to cut around the screen and pull out the entire plant and then keep it in dark somewhere else and start the drowning,
or i can drown while its in there and then chop off the branches and oh yea, then anyway ill have to somehow pull out the pot,
i dont care about cutting through the screen ill have learned not to have varying aged plants under a screen
just tell me how to drown in this particular set of circumstances please.,
i really would love to have dried cured bud faster

PS sorry if i missed this somewhere is drying time still 1 week? im confused, because i thought the plant needs to be dry before harvesting so that it dries quicker and avoids mold better?

Not to sound rude, but I think you're missing the point of using the screen.

 

[Wolverine97]

I guess the concept that I'm trying to wrap my head around is; how is the color of the ash in ANY way related to how the plant was finished? Where did this ash color idea even come from? The wood in my fireplace burns white but my trees aren't 'finished properly' before they're cut down, so where does this concept come from? More stoner forum nonsense or did this originate in hightimes or in a Cervantes book?

The first person I saw really hammering this point was Subcool, but I have to say that I see some logic behind it. I've since experimented with a few plants here and there, some get a flush, some do not, some get chem ferts, some organics. It's almost always true (in my experience)that the well flushed organic grows burn to a cleaner, whiter ash. I've had some chem grown crops that I didn't flush at all, and more often than not they leave a dark sticky ash in the bottom of my bowl, or the joints don't burn very well even when totally dry. It's evidence enough for me.

 

[riddleme]

The first person I saw really hammering this point was Subcool, but I have to say that I see some logic behind it. I've since experimented with a few plants here and there, some get a flush, some do not, some get chem ferts, some organics. It's almost always true (in my experience)that the well flushed organic grows burn to a cleaner, whiter ash. I've had some chem grown crops that I didn't flush at all, and more often than not they leave a dark sticky ash in the bottom of my bowl, or the joints don't burn very well even when totally dry. It's evidence enough for me.

That would be evidence of an improper cure for me, I use chem nutes, I feed till the end, I don't do a final flush, and I always get a non harsh white ash and have a smoke report from another RIU member that verifies what I just said

 

[Wolverine97]

That would be evidence of an improper cure for me, I use chem nutes, I feed till the end, I don't do a final flush, and I always get a non harsh white ash and have a smoke report from another RIU member that verifies what I just said

Sorry, but I don't know how to do an "improper cure". I only do things properly.

 

[riddleme]

Sorry, but I don't know how to do an "improper cure". I only do things properly.

wasn't accusin, was merely relating my experience in the same way you were

 

[Wolverine97]

wasn't accusin, was merely relating my experience in the same way you were

Yeah, sorry man, I'm having a bad morning. Don't mean to sound snippy.

 

[homebrewer]

The first person I saw really hammering this point was Subcool, but I have to say that I see some logic behind it. I've since experimented with a few plants here and there, some get a flush, some do not, some get chem ferts, some organics. It's almost always true (in my experience)that the well flushed organic grows burn to a cleaner, whiter ash. I've had some chem grown crops that I didn't flush at all, and more often than not they leave a dark sticky ash in the bottom of my bowl, or the joints don't burn very well even when totally dry. It's evidence enough for me.

I bet if any seasoned smoker or breeder sat down and smoked a bowl blind folded, that they could never tell you the color of the ash based on flavor. That being said, who smokes their herb until it's ash? I take like 2 hits and dump it, only fresh greens for me .

 

[Boonierat]

It's a rough economy, lol. No reason to waste for me.

 

[xivex]

Im with hb. I dont like to smoke ash either. Rather pack a new bowl.

 

[Wolverine97]

I bet if any seasoned smoker or breeder sat down and smoked a bowl blind folded, that they could never tell you the color of the ash based on flavor. That being said, who smokes their herb until it's ash? I take like 2 hits and dump it, only fresh greens for me .

Do you not also smoke joints? And I'm pretty seasoned, like fifteen years or so, and I can guarantee you that with my strains, I could pick flushed vs. unflushed in a blind taste test any day of the week. No bs.

 

[homebrewer]

Do you not also smoke joints? And I'm pretty seasoned, like fifteen years or so, and I can guarantee you that with my strains, I could pick flushed vs. unflushed in a blind taste test any day of the week. No bs.

I know better than to get into a flushing debate . In my opinion, if you feel like your plants need flushed at the end to taste good, I'd take a critical look at how they were treated up until that point.