Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

NightbirdX

NightbirdX

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2 TBS/gal of lime is what I go with. It works great. I mix it in at the beginning and start adding cal/mag at about week 4 of flowering. I like the lime for the beginning because it does keep you pH really well adjusted at the beginning, before you have a really established microbe colony to do it for you, but depending on how much you use, it will run out. I don't know when that is, but I started adding Cal/Mag at 5ml/gal the rest of the grow and the plants aren't dead, and are quite lovely, lol.

On another note, It is day 60 on the PB's, Matt. Soon I will have my own purple buds and pink ladies to sample. :) The pink lady is really finicky and started to flower when I took it from the cloner and transplanted it to its 1gal pot. I just uppotted them, and it is still having a hard time, but she is starting to grow 5 bladed leaves again. I don't know if I want to flower these out. I was thinking of just taking cuts from it when it had a bunch of dense normal growth and trying over. What do you think, Matt? Have you had this problem?
 
MalcolmMustang

MalcolmMustang

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2 tbsp a gallon. that seems like a lot though. Are you using a mix of Ocean Forest and Happy frog? Happy frog already has lime and the Ocean forest has crushed oystershell. I was thinking of adding 1 tbsp a gallon but if you are getting good results with 2 and its in soil that already has lime let me know. I appreciate the input. Your plants look great.

Here is my next soil mix

Happy frog/ FFOF 50/50 mix
3 cups ancient forest humus
2 cups worm castings
2 tbsp Oregonism Mycorrhizae
1/2 cup Neem cake
extra perlite

all measurements are per bag of soil. what do u guys think. anything to add or take out?

On another topic can anyone tell me if an RO system is a good investment when running veganics or do the plants prefer the ppms that unfiltered water provides? Maybe a carbon filter for removing chlorine?
 
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dickkhead

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Im just starting out in my indoor garden I have bioterra plus which I ordered from canada ( 200.00$) for 2 bags but w.e im dying to try the veganics! I have the full line of biocanna and natures nectar. Im just starting to read this thread but if anyone can refer certain pages for feeding schedules and other nutes I can add Id apprecciate it. I also have HP aero and just ordered some air pots it will be interesting to compare them. thank you for all the great advice here!
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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dickkhead said:
Im just starting out in my indoor garden I have bioterra plus which I ordered from canada ( 200.00$) for 2 bags but w.e im dying to try the veganics! I have the full line of biocanna and natures nectar. Im just starting to read this thread but if anyone can refer certain pages for feeding schedules and other nutes I can add Id apprecciate it. I also have HP aero and just ordered some air pots it will be interesting to compare them. thank you for all the great advice here!
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Wow. I could never, ever, ever justify spending that much on soil. Hope it goes well for you...
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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Lol, BTP is good, I used a few times, but doesn't it have bone meal? Or blood meal or something like that? I could be wrong but I feel I read that on the bag....

Good 'ol promix and kelp meal for me please.
 
konagirl420

konagirl420

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Wow Matt really reeally Niceee I didn't even know you had plushberry too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahaha that's real reason I was ever going up north hahahaha!!!!!
 
NightbirdX

NightbirdX

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Just harvested my plushberry at day 63. (>.<)b

3 plants, 3 different phenos. So far, I think the purple pheno is my fave. Big gooey purple nugs. The pink pheno is a lot airier thank I expected, but stillvlooks great. The yields on both are looking really solid. And the smell and resin production are off the chart. We'll see after smoke report.
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
NightbirdX said:
2 TBS/gal of lime is what I go with. It works great. I mix it in at the beginning and start adding cal/mag at about week 4 of flowering. I like the lime for the beginning because it does keep you pH really well adjusted at the beginning, before you have a really established microbe colony to do it for you, but depending on how much you use, it will run out. I don't know when that is, but I started adding Cal/Mag at 5ml/gal the rest of the grow and the plants aren't dead, and are quite lovely, lol.

On another note, It is day 60 on the PB's, Matt. Soon I will have my own purple buds and pink ladies to sample. :) The pink lady is really finicky and started to flower when I took it from the cloner and transplanted it to its 1gal pot. I just uppotted them, and it is still having a hard time, but she is starting to grow 5 bladed leaves again. I don't know if I want to flower these out. I was thinking of just taking cuts from it when it had a bunch of dense normal growth and trying over. What do you think, Matt? Have you had this problem?
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Never had that problem with the Plush. Odd.

MalcolmMustang said:
2 tbsp a gallon. that seems like a lot though. Are you using a mix of Ocean Forest and Happy frog? Happy frog already has lime and the Ocean forest has crushed oystershell. I was thinking of adding 1 tbsp a gallon but if you are getting good results with 2 and its in soil that already has lime let me know. I appreciate the input. Your plants look great.

Here is my next soil mix

Happy frog/ FFOF 50/50 mix
3 cups ancient forest humus
2 cups worm castings
2 tbsp Oregonism Mycorrhizae
1/2 cup Neem cake
extra perlite

all measurements are per bag of soil. what do u guys think. anything to add or take out?

On another topic can anyone tell me if an RO system is a good investment when running veganics or do the plants prefer the ppms that unfiltered water provides? Maybe a carbon filter for removing chlorine?
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1 tbsp/gallon of lime if good too. Im not using your blend so I cant say for sure. But I do know that dolomite lime is slow release so its hard to over do.
Neem Cake should be used in small amounts, about the same as the lime. 1/2 cup seems like a lot to me.
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
NightbirdX said:
Just harvested my plushberry at day 63. (>.<)b

3 plants, 3 different phenos. So far, I think the purple pheno is my fave. Big gooey purple nugs. The pink pheno is a lot airier thank I expected, but stillvlooks great. The yields on both are looking really solid. And the smell and resin production are off the chart. We'll see after smoke report.
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hmmm. i have the reverse, my pinks are dense and my purp are fluffy. goes to show what it means to grow from seeds. variety is the spice of life.
 
farmer2424

farmer2424

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damn, i wish i could smell that through the computer. looks fine matt. + Rep. I must say, I learn more in this thread than the majority of the other threads on RUI combined. Always droppin knowledge. Keep it green boys and girls :leaf:

Saw this Pie Graph a while back on a NORML Life, thought i'd share it if you haven't already seen it View attachment 1971341
 
MalcolmMustang

MalcolmMustang

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Matt Rize said:
1 tbsp/gallon of lime if good too. Im not using your blend so I cant say for sure. But I do know that dolomite lime is slow release so its hard to over do.
Neem Cake should be used in small amounts, about the same as the lime. 1/2 cup seems like a lot to me.
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About the neemcake.. so there are about 15 gallons in a bag of soil. We are talking 1tbsp/gallon of lime added so 15 tbsp in one bag = .9375 cups. [FONT=arial, sans-serif][/FONT]So that would mean the lime would

be added roughly 1 cup per bag of soil and if the neem cake is around the same then why would 1/2 cup per bag seem like a lot. I am just wondering, I appreciate the help because I

have never amended my soil with neem cake before. The last thing I would want to do is put too much nitrogen in my flowering soil.
 
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