Homosexuality a choice??

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Hepheastus420

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Your straight by choice. ANd also because you were born with a penis and testicles and its obvious what they are there for. I dont get why this is so hard for ppl to grasp. The whole "I was born gay" is just propaganda and lies to justify what they are doing.
How do you know I'm straight by choice?

That's true. I do know what my penis and testicles are there for.. That doesn't mean I can't be gay though. My male dog has humped other male dogs and he's gotten a female pregnant. So he served his duty and was gay.

Being gay doesn't need to be justified.
 

BustinScales510

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So Kaendar, do you believe that a gay guy is actually attracted to females, but chooses to be with men even though he is not attracted to them?
 

Kaendar

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As told by an agnostic-

1. It's dirty, like literally, not figuratively.
2. Your body gets mutilated, and l know mutilation is a strong word, but that's basically what happens.
3. I think it's unnatural, idc how many species of animals have been spotted doing it, I think people were meant to do it with the opposite sex.
4. According to congress: "The gay lifestyle is not something to be encouraged, as a lot of research shows it leads to a much lower life expectancy, psychological disorders, and other problems."
5. Gay marriage would make others want marriage rights such as marrying children, animals, multiple spouses, inanimate objects, etc.
6. If they wanted to have kids, according to Freud and other developmental psychologists, a predominant male and female figure are needed to raise a child. If there was influence predominantly from two males or two females, this could affect the child.
7. They cannot reproduce on their own as they are. This goes against both an evolutionary or religious standpoint.
8. It supports homosexuaIity, which would lead to more of all of these things because people would be more comfortable being gay.

[h=3]Source(s):[/h]Agnostic
 

Kaendar

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"I am not against gay marriage...

I am against homosexuals trying to pretend homosexuality is "normal" in public. They may be normal people in most other aspects of their lives but men having sex with men and women having sex with woman is ABNORMAL behavior. The MAJORITY of heterosexual humans even see it as immoral.

I compare homosexuals to christians.

Both types of people are fully immersed in immoral behavior and both types are trying to moralize their behavior through public opinion.

I have to deal with christians in public trying to tell MY CHILDREN that it is ok to worship a baby killer.

Egypt's first born. Amalikites. Flood. She bears sent to murder 42 children.

I am my children's father. I say IT IS IMMORAL TO WORSHIP A BABY KILLER. Please stay the hell away from my kids.

Homosexuals are running around in public trying to tell my kids it is ok for a man to suck another man's dick...I am the father of my kids and I say IT IS IMMORAL FOR MAN TO HAVE SEX WITH MAN.

I got both the homosexuals and the christians trying to FORCE me to teach MY CHILDREN that what THEIR FATHER sees as immoral is not really immoral at all...but NORMAL.

All of them can just piss off. Both groups. I WILL teach my kids that worshiping baby killers and men sucking other men's ***** is IMMORAL.

Gays can get married...I just do not see why MY KIDS should agree with it or what difference it makes in the PRIVATE LIVES of homosexuals."
 

Kaendar

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And for UB and CN... heres some compelling stuff with absolutely no religion in it.

[h=1]The Secular Case Against Gay Marriage[/h][h=3][/h]The debate over whether the state ought to recognize gay marriages has thus far focused on the issue as one of civil rights. Such a treatment is erroneous because state recognition of marriage is not a universal right. States regulate marriage in many ways besides denying men the right to marry men, and women the right to marry women. Roughly half of all states prohibit first cousins from marrying, and all prohibit marriage of closer blood relatives, even if the individuals being married are sterile. In all states, it is illegal to attempt to marry more than one person, or even to pass off more than one person as one’s spouse. Some states restrict the marriage of people suffering from syphilis or other venereal diseases. Homosexuals, therefore, are not the only people to be denied the right to marry the person of their choosing.
I do not claim that all of these other types of couples restricted from marrying are equivalent to homosexual couples. I only bring them up to illustrate that marriage is heavily regulated, and for good reason. When a state recognizes a marriage, it bestows upon the couple certain benefits which are costly to both the state and other individuals. Collecting a deceased spouse’s social security, claiming an extra tax exemption for a spouse, and having the right to be covered under a spouse’s health insurance policy are just a few examples of the costly benefits associated with marriage. In a sense, a married couple receives a subsidy. Why? Because a marriage between two unrelated heterosexuals is likely to result in a family with children, and propagation of society is a compelling state interest. For this reason, states have, in varying degrees, restricted from marriage couples unlikely to produce children.
Granted, these restrictions are not absolute. A small minority of married couples are infertile. However, excluding sterile couples from marriage, in all but the most obvious cases such as those of blood relatives, would be costly. Few people who are sterile know it, and fertility tests are too expensive and burdensome to mandate. One might argue that the exclusion of blood relatives from marriage is only necessary to prevent the conception of genetically defective children, but blood relatives cannot marry even if they undergo sterilization. Some couples who marry plan not to have children, but without mind-reading technology, excluding them is impossible. Elderly couples can marry, but such cases are so rare that it is simply not worth the effort to restrict them. The marriage laws, therefore, ensure, albeit imperfectly, that the vast majority of couples who do get the benefits of marriage are those who bear children.
Homosexual relationships do nothing to serve the state interest of propagating society, so there is no reason for the state to grant them the costly benefits of marriage, unless they serve some other state interest. The burden of proof, therefore, is on the advocates of gay marriage to show what state interest these marriages serve. Thus far, this burden has not been met.
One may argue that lesbians are capable of procreating via artificial insemination, so the state does have an interest in recognizing lesbian marriages, but a lesbian’s sexual relationship, committed or not, has no bearing on her ability to reproduce. Perhaps it may serve a state interest to recognize gay marriages to make it easier for gay couples to adopt. However, there is ample evidence (see, for example, David Popenoe’s Life Without Father) that children need both a male and female parent for proper development. Unfortunately, small sample sizes and other methodological problems make it impossible to draw conclusions from studies that directly examine the effects of gay parenting. However, the empirically verified common wisdom about the importance of a mother and father in a child’s development should give advocates of gay adoption pause. The differences between men and women extend beyond anatomy, so it is essential for a child to be nurtured by parents of both sexes if a child is to learn to function in a society made up of both sexes. Is it wise to have a social policy that encourages family arrangements that deny children such essentials? Gays are not necessarily bad parents, nor will they necessarily make their children gay, but they cannot provide a set of parents that includes both a male and a female.
Some have compared the prohibition of homosexual marriage to the prohibition of interracial marriage. This analogy fails because fertility does not depend on race, making race irrelevant to the state’s interest in marriage. By contrast, homosexuality is highly relevant because it precludes procreation.
Some argue that homosexual marriages serve a state interest because they enable gays to live in committed relationships. However, there is nothing stopping homosexuals from living in such relationships today. Advocates of gay marriage claim gay couples need marriage in order to have hospital visitation and inheritance rights, but they can easily obtain these rights by writing a living will and having each partner designate the other as trustee and heir. There is nothing stopping gay couples from signing a joint lease or owning a house jointly, as many single straight people do with roommates. The only benefits of marriage from which homosexual couples are restricted are those that are costly to the state and society.
Some argue that the link between marriage and procreation is not as strong as it once was, and they are correct. Until recently, the primary purpose of marriage, in every society around the world, has been procreation. In the 20th century, Western societies have downplayed the procreative aspect of marriage, much to our detriment. As a result, the happiness of the parties to the marriage, rather than the good of the children or the social order, has become its primary end, with disastrous consequences. When married persons care more about themselves than their responsibilities to their children and society, they become more willing to abandon these responsibilities, leading to broken homes, a plummeting birthrate, and countless other social pathologies that have become rampant over the last 40 years. Homosexual marriage is not the cause for any of these pathologies, but it will exacerbate them, as the granting of marital benefits to a category of sexual relationships that are necessarily sterile can only widen the separation between marriage and procreation.
The biggest danger homosexual civil marriage presents is the enshrining into law the notion that sexual love, regardless of its fecundity, is the sole criterion for marriage. If the state must recognize a marriage of two men simply because they love one another, upon what basis can it deny marital recognition to a group of two men and three women, for example, or a sterile brother and sister who claim to love each other? Homosexual activists protest that they only want all couples treated equally. But why is sexual love between two people more worthy of state sanction than love between three, or five? When the purpose of marriage is procreation, the answer is obvious. If sexual love becomes the primary purpose, the restriction of marriage to couples loses its logical basis, leading to marital chaos.
 

Kaendar

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So Kaendar, do you believe that a gay guy is actually attracted to females, but chooses to be with men even though he is not attracted to them?
I think that they convince themselves they are attracted to men. EVERY gay man I know, and I know alot because im a tattoo artist in LA, still have sex with women sometimes. I know a complete feminine and flamboyant gay man who has 2 kids. He says hes gay because hes more comfortable being with a man than a woman. He also has a gay sister. He says that its his parents fault for raising them in a fucked up household.
 

cannabineer

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Now you've added to your Link Debt, Kaendar.
Please.
Provide.
The.
Sources.
This is what math teachers mean by "show your work".
I still ask that you provide the trail of breadcrumbs to the other C&Ps you've posted.
Your failure to do so smacks of guilt. Dum taceant consentiunt.
cn
 

UncleBuck

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I think that they convince themselves they are attracted to men. EVERY gay man I know, and I know alot because im a tattoo artist in LA, still have sex with women sometimes. I know a complete feminine and flamboyant gay man who has 2 kids. He says hes gay because hes more comfortable being with a man than a woman. He also has a gay sister. He says that its his parents fault for raising them in a fucked up household.
you never cleared up your confusing wording:

at puberty, did you A) think about sucking cock or B) not think about sucking cock.

please clarify, thank you.
 

BustinScales510

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That doesnt explain gay people that had a stable upbringing. And gay men that have sex with women arent actually gay..theyre bi. The majority dont have sex with women on a regular basis
 

Shannon Alexander

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If he's still sticking it in chicks... that isn't gay... it is bi-sexual... Which in my opinion is a whole other kettle of fish when it comes to attempting to understand why or how somebody is the way they are....
 

Kaendar

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Now you've added to your Link Debt, Kaendar.
Please.
Provide.
The.
Sources.
This is what math teachers mean by "show your work".
I still ask that you provide the trail of breadcrumbs to the other C&Ps you've posted.
Your failure to do so smacks of guilt. Dum taceant consentiunt.
cn
uggh... I will have to go thru my history when Im done working and provide those for u.. the one secular one shud be easy to find if u google tho
 

Kaendar

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you never cleared up your confusing wording:

at puberty, did you A) think about sucking cock or B) not think about sucking cock.

please clarify, thank you.
Dude.. ur posts are funny but I seriously doubt that all boys that deside to "explore" their homo curiosities think about sucking cock.
 

UncleBuck

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kaendar, please clarify your statement to me earlier.

did sucking cock A) cross your mind or B) not cross your mind when you decided to be heterosexual?
 
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