Dr. Kynes, you and I don't see eye to eye in this matter. I think the terrorists want precisely to goad us into documentably barbarous behavior, so that they can use the machinery of our own media to indict us. It's startlingly effective as guerrilla tactics go. In fact, I read your second paragraph as supporting this premise.
In any case, I reiterate:
unless we come up with and use a way of dealing with the terrorists that is simultaneously effective and in keeping with our formal national principles, we are losing. Fighting fire with fire leads to endless irreconcilable feud. We are called upon to be elegant, in keeping with the conceit that our way is better. time to man up and prove it, and not squabble with them as children would. My opinion.
I am curious: how do you define savage? cn
there is already a time tested and well proven method of dealing with savages. the republican roman way. when they raid one of our villages, or strike at one of our ships at sea, we mobilize our forces, track them down and break them.
case in point: al quaeda in yemen. we know where they are, we go to yemen and invade that shithole. anyone who raises a weapon, he dies. no rules of engagement, no patty cake, no winning hearts and minds, anyone who tries to interfere with the mission dies. the targets are rooted out, and butchered in the streets. if a village hides a cache of weapons or explosives, artillery barrage. a mullah says you cant search his mosque? artillery barrage. somebody sets up an improvised explosive device, destroy the cell network they use to trigger the devices. another device is planted? destroy their power grid. another device, destroy their irrigation system. by the time the locals figure out the new rules they will be more than ready to expel the bastards themselves or rat them out. once the entire country has been pacified, we leave. before we leave we make it clear if we have to come back, their country will cease to exist. to pay for the expense of sorting out their shithole we plunder their dump. the next country will think hard before allowing anybody free reign to establish a base in their land.
each time somebody tries to pull a shenanigan, the country they are hiding in gets the same treatment. one by one, each in turn any country that fails to handle it's own bullshit should receive an abrupt lesson in violence courtesy of the unrestrained power of the us military machine. it's there, we paid for it, we built it, but we dont use it to prevent chicanery shenanigans and assclownery. this should be reversed. in fairly shoirt order the world will rally together and reject the assholes or we will know who our real friends are.
as to definitions, a savage is any retrograde society or religious movement that attempts to impose it's will on other people based on their magic book and the idiotic rambling of a camel raiding pederast. civilized nations and people should not resort to violence unless it is brought to them by savages, but civilization MUST defend itself or we will enter a new dark age of unreason, magical thinking and ignorance. failure to defend civilized society from the ravening hordes of superstitious degenerates ruined many civilizations before, the egyptians, the greeks, the chinese, the celts, the romans the inca, the maya, the aztecs, the cheyenne, and it will ruin ours as well. either we protect our civilization, or we become another footnote in history.