My logical take on creation/evolution/Genesis.

[Doer]

Lol I never claimed anything special except knowing the truth hahaha

But, you don't. You claim truth with no knowledge.

 

[Doer]

And there is scientific evidence to support the Bible, nothing has ever disproved it

There is no evidence. It has all been tamper with, by Christians. There is no record of Jesus. It is all a fabrication. That's the evidence.

 

[Doer]

That's the old testiment, Jesus has died and paid the price for everyone's sin now and you are the one that is misinformed

Someone made that up and you were taught. No sin. Made up. No need to be saved. All made up. Invent sin for power and people still buy it.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

I am not asking anyone to to "convert " I have the right to believe what I believe and so do you I have seen too many things and been through too many things in my life not to believe thanks so I have made my choice nothing you could say or do would change my mind

Just becuase you beleive something is true, does not make it true.


If you cannot accept the fact that what you believe... has the possability of being wrong, then you do not belong in the philosophy forum.

 

[tyler.durden]

I am not asking anyone to to "convert " I have the right to believe what I believe and so do you I have seen too many things and been through too many things in my life not to believe thanks so I have made my choice nothing you could say or do would change my mind

Ah, there we go. You realize that if your statement is true and your beliefs are erroneous, you can never correct them...

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

I could care less what you think!

I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man, she must be silent. <<--- Be a true believe and listen to the NEW TESTAMENT.

 

[konagirl420]

Have fun in hell

 

[Doer]

Have fun in hell

I knew we could get a damnation out of this. Hell is made up. Damnation is made up. So, finally the pettiness of the religion is revealed...again.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Have fun in hell

Pope John Paul announced at the Vatican in 1999 that there was no hell, it was made up to scare people into believing. He said you create your own hell inside your head, much like you can create your own heaven.

 

[konagirl420]

Like I said believe what you want we will see in the end huh ??

 

[Doer]

Like I said believe what you want we will see in the end huh ??

She smugly scoffs. That's the cult logic you will always win. I so do understand.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

Like I said believe what you want we will see in the end huh ??

If you cannot accept the fact that what you believe... has the possability of being wrong, then you do not belong in the philosophy forum.

 

[Padawanbater2]

kona, do you mind if I ask a little bit about your background?

How old are you?

Where were you born/where did you grow up?

Have you always been religious?

Is your mother and father religious?

Do you attend church?

Do you mind if I ask how old you are, and of what nationality?

These are all just things that will help me pinpoint the demographic..

Also, what are your thoughts on my previous post about subjective v. objective reality, stuff we can measure and stuff that we can't?

What if your beliefs cause other people harm, even though you feel they're correct, do you feel that's somewhat of a necessary evil in that they don't follow the same things, the truth, so whatever happens to them is justified?

Please take the time and actually think about and answer these questions for me, I'm just trying to find out more about this viewpoint.

 

[konagirl420]

If you cannot accept the fact that what you believe... has the possability of being wrong, then you do not belong in the philosophy forum.

Same to you

 

[Zaehet Strife]

Same to you

The only thing i am certain of in this existence, is my uncertainty. I know that i know nothing, i merely harbor ideas, nothing more... nothing less.

 

[Doer]

The only thing i am certain of in this existence, is my uncertainty. I know that i know nothing, i merely harbor ideas, nothing more... nothing less.

Here we are, in beautiful Idea Village. As we can see, it's situated quite pristinely on the very edge of Idea Harbor.

 

[Dislexicmidget2021]

Hehe it is you all I feel sorry for I know the truth so I don't have to sit here and answer questions you can google them if you want all I did was say what I believe

The only truth is self truth of what is true in your own perspective it dosent go outside of your own subjectivity to become Universal truth unto all, truth can not be the same as fact they are quite distinctive.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

The only truth is self truth of what is true in your own perspective it dosent go outside of your own subjectivity to become Universal truth unto all, truth can not be the same as fact they are quite distinctive.

You deserve rep for this, id give some to you, but you've taken too much from me already

 

[Heisenberg]

You guys are debating someone who pulls stuff off of a shelf they keep inside of their ass. She has limitless bullshit to draw from, while you guys are shackled by things like logical consistency and facts. You guys are limited by not being able to say something completely random and blame it on google. Imagine if you had the freedom to say something like "science disproved God back in 1947", or "even Jesus believed Darwin's theory would pan out". What if we could just say they found a half man half monkey skeleton inside of Jesus's tomb wearing a medallion that said 'There is no god'? If winning a 'debate' were my goal, then I certainly wouldn't want to be on the side of the truth.


&#8220;All I&#8217;m arguing for really is that we should have a conversation where the best ideas really thrive, where there&#8217;s no taboo against criticizing bad ideas, and where everyone who shows up, in order to get their ideas entertained, has to meet some obvious burdens of intellectual rigor and self-criticism and honesty&#8212;and when people fail to do that, we are free to stop listening to them. What religion has had up until this moment is a different set of rules that apply only to it, which is you have to respect my religious certainty even though I&#8217;m telling you I arrived at it irrationally.&#8221;
&#8213; Sam Harris

 

[BA142]

Kona, please stop while you can. You are making theists look bad. You have to realize that while the bible is true, some of it should not be taken quite literally, or at least be aware that in some of the parts like genesis, alot of the details are left out. For example, god didnt create the universe in 7 human days, he created it in 7 of his days, which means billions of years.

That's the most retarded thing I've ever read. I hope you're trolling.