The 12-12 From Seed Thread

supchaka

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I've finally embraced the digital download for music. It's nice to only pay a buck 29 when I only want one song. And the costs are deducted off the full album purchase should you decide to buy more of the same album in the future
I used to bootleg music and movies but I've had a couple letters from Verizon so I've retired from that for the time being. And yes I'm kind of replying to myself
 

Serial Violator

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Alright lads, does anyone know of a way I can download music videos for free, I was using real player but it doesn't seem to want to download certain songs. Any help would be great
 

Serial Violator

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Here's a few shots of the outdoor 12-12. The kiwi looks amazing and putting it outside didn't really affect it, the white widow stalled for a week or 2 but has continued flowering and the exo cheese has gone back into veg i think as it has started growing alot although there are some pistils on it still
 

Youknowwhoiam

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Alright lads, does anyone know of a way I can download music videos for free, I was using real player but it doesn't seem to want to download certain songs. Any help would be great
Hello mate, good to see an update from ya, looking nice.

As for a free music videos I use this, http://download.cnet.com/Any-Video-Converter/3000-2194_4-10661456.html?tag=mncol;2 It also converts the video to mp3 if needed its how I get all my kids ones for their tabs n shit.

Its completely free, easy to use and stable, the bonus is it can convert the files to most if all devices like iphones, shitberries, tabs etc.
 

Serial Violator

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Cheers mate i'll check it out. Been busy as fuck lately and its about to get a whole lot worse, just bought another bar and move in on the 7th so life going to get hectic, all im managing to do is feed the plants every few days. I'll take some pics later of the indoor plants.
 

Youknowwhoiam

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@ jigfresh

This is a few shots of one of the folders I spoke about, off topic I know but so many people don`t believe me when I tell them how much music I have(not saying you don`t).

Iv`e got a few of them, and as ya can see this one lists just under 13,000 tracks.

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EDIT** LOL @ the Britney track, but in fairness people dance to anything when off their tits ;)
 
Hey Guys Is it your opinion (anyones) that coco can yeild more the soil? As long as ph is ok of coarse. I've been growing 12/12 in soil (canna pro) and only averaging 1 oz per plant under 600w hps. 9litre pots. Lots of different strains, most I can pull is 2oz if she's sativa dom. I know coco is hydro pretty much and feeding more frequent can be necessary.. But yield difference?
 
Hey guys. Is it your opinion (anyones) that coco can yeild more the soil? As long as ph is ok of coarse. I've been growing 12/12 in soil and only averaging 1 oz per plant under 600w hps. 9litre pots. Lots of different strains, most I can pull is 2 if she's sativa dom.
 

jigfresh

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Absolutely coco can yield more than soil. Just like soil can yield more than coco. :) Depends on what you are good at. I'm good at hydro, so I yield more using that.

EDIT: LOLOL I dance to britney stone sober. :joint: You would be embarrassed by half my collection.

And.... My 12/12 F.S. babies are coming along, working on their 3rd set of leaves.
 

hsfkush

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Absolutely coco can yield more than soil. Just like soil can yield more than coco. :) Depends on what you are good at. I'm good at hydro, so I yield more using that.
Clever response, I like it! But doesn't Hydro usually yield more anyway given that you basically have unlimited root space?

I'm currently using coco and I've found that growth is faster in coco than in soil. When I grew in soil, it took me 7 weeks to start flowering but in coco, after 3 weeks I was starting to see pistils pop up everywhere.

I'm currently in my 3rd week of flower, approaching my 4th week. The most I yielded in soil was little under and ounce(26.3g) and that was off of a 46" plant that was topped once. As things stand at the minute, I'm optimistic for my yield(not that it matters as I don't sell it) and I'm predicting a minimum of 1 ounce off of a 22" plant. We'll see how things go though, I may be wrong and I may get more or less, I'm still new so I'm perfecting my technique before trying other, more aggressive techniques for yield such as LST/SCRoG.

Edit: Update on my grow. I've started to see a couple of brown pistils on my indica dominant strains, progress! :D
 

Youknowwhoiam

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Clever answer indeed, Iv`e been soil from the start and haven`t felt the need to switch because each harvest gets me to the next, even when not 12/12 FS Iv`e kept at soil.

Anywhere from 20-35g 12/12 FS in a 5L pot is what Iv`e been pulling under 90w ufos so anythings possible, the only way to find out is do a side by side with the same strain in the same pots 1 with soil and 1 with coco,

Hydro hands down should beat both soil and coco but it all depends what you can dial in, I have no interest in hydro as it seems to much effort checking ph, feeding, air stones etc.

Fuck all that, I haven`t checked my ph for years or changed my feeding schedule the only thing I have actually changed is going from CFL to LED.
 

hsfkush

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Clever answer indeed, Iv`e been soil from the start and haven`t felt the need to switch because each harvest gets me to the next, even when not 12/12 FS Iv`e kept at soil.

Anywhere from 20-35g 12/12 FS in a 5L pot is what Iv`e been pulling under 90w ufos so anythings possible, the only way to find out is do a side by side with the same strain in the same pots 1 with soil and 1 with coco,

Hydro hands down should beat both soil and coco but it all depends what you can dial in, I have no interest in hydro as it seems to much effort checking ph, feeding, air stones etc.

Fuck all that, I haven`t checked my ph for years or changed my feeding schedule the only thing I have actually changed is going from CFL to LED.
How are the LEDs compared to CFL? Also, what sort of heat do they emit? I'd like to go to a more penetrating light source as I end up with wispy buds about halfway down the plant.
 

Youknowwhoiam

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I used to use the big 125w cfls and they got hot as fuck, with the LEDs I get no issues whatsoever Infact during the winter months I have to use a oil filled rad to get my temps up,

It's an improvement big time running THESE leds IMHO
 

kindnug

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#6 will be done in 2 wk or less but looks like the rest have around 3-4 wk.

Very big buds for such short plants > Beautiful!
 

hsfkush

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I used to use the big 125w cfls and they got hot as fuck, with the LEDs I get no issues whatsoever Infact during the winter months I have to use a oil filled rad to get my temps up,

It's an improvement big time running THESE leds IMHO
What sort of wattage would be best to use, for 5 plants for example?
 

jigfresh

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Clever response, I like it! But doesn't Hydro usually yield more anyway given that you basically have unlimited root space?

I'm currently using coco and I've found that growth is faster in coco than in soil. When I grew in soil, it took me 7 weeks to start flowering but in coco, after 3 weeks I was starting to see pistils pop up everywhere.
From everything I've seen and heard from people who have done both hydro grows faster and more vigorous especially in veg. I can't say that people are unilaterally getting bigger harvests in soil per se. I think it would take more veg time in soil to get a plant capable of getting the yield a hydro plant could in a shorter time. So if you are talking about weight per time, I'd say for sure hydro wins. But there are so many ways people grow, and so many reasons people grow. I grow for myself in a small closet. Others grow for profit in warehouses. I grow in my bedroom closet and I work from home/ am home all the damn time. Others see their plants once a week. So many factors to which is better and which will even work for a situation. So it's a complicated issue.

I have no interest in hydro as it seems to much effort checking ph, feeding, air stones etc.

Fuck all that, I haven`t checked my ph for years or changed my feeding schedule the only thing I have actually changed is going from CFL to LED.
Haha... it's funny cuz I always thought hydro was more work. I started hydro and ran that for 3+ years, then went to soil. Honestly I find soil SOOOOO much more work, and needing of attention. I am constantly having to remember to water my plants. Watering is a bit of a pain, and the soil is all over, have to store shit on my deck, blah, blah. I am not trying to complain, just saying to me it's so much more of a hassle soil is.

Hydro, sure you can complicate the shit out of it... but really, what I strived for was a setup that would handle itself. I had things pretty dialed in before I took it down to try soil. I would add water once a week, maybe twice. Nutes every two weeks or so. Only gave them nutes a few times really. Stopped giving them anything after 5 weeks flowering. And I loved the sound of a waterfall in the room. I left my hydro going for either 12 or 14 days (i forget which) completely on it's own and everything was fine, except the plants grew out of control. I didn't check pH or water temps. I kinda figured out a regular pattern and just estimated everything. Low maintinance just the way I like it.

Saying all that, I'm just starting to smoke my first soil harvest the past few days and WOW is the taste difference something. Hard to explain, but I am really digging the soil taste and smell. Smells more natural. Have to laugh at the yeild though. I don't think I cracked 0.2 g/w. :shock: However... I'm going with soil another round at least. Try to tame the beast.
 
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