My Hempy Top 44 CFL Grow Journal

fierybong

fierybong

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28 hours later the clones are still nice and green. I have misted the leaves frequently, I just watered the substrate with a mister until the holes ran as intended, I found it easiest to put my finger right below the little hole and water until I felt it get wet so I knew I wouldn't miss it and just waste water.

Does anyone know how I can verify success with the clones or at what point they will utterly die if they didn't take? I assume I have to wait until they actually have roots to offer nutrients, (which in retrospec I didn't have to be so worried about) and I guess a 1/2 strength lucas will work for that, offered every other watering switching with distilled...

But how long until they root, and how can I check on it? :)

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fierybong said:
28 hours later the clones are still nice and green. I have misted the leaves frequently, I just watered the substrate with a mister until the holes ran as intended, I found it easiest to put my finger right below the little hole and water until I felt it get wet so I knew I wouldn't miss it and just waste water.

Does anyone know how I can verify success with the clones or at what point they will utterly die if they didn't take? I assume I have to wait until they actually have roots to offer nutrients, (which in retrospec I didn't have to be so worried about) and I guess a 1/2 strength lucas will work for that, offered every other watering switching with distilled...

But how long until they root, and how can I check on it? :)

Thanks for reading
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I helped a friend take clones a while back and some of them took 2 to 3 weeks maybe 4 and they took root , it all depends on the cuttings , usaly when the new growth is burnted or dead the clone is dead pretty much
 
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Should I be letting the medium get to dry at this point before watering or should it still be wet almost always? Gaging that with the hempy method I am not yet sure on... any advice is appreciated.

I mixed half strength nuts today, 4 ml micro 8 ml bloom, PH'd it after right at 6.5ish. The cups are 7 almost exactly with the 4:1 perlite/vermiculite mix.

When should I start offering nutrients to the clones? Should I do nuts/plain/nuts/plain and alternate waterings or always give the half strength? When should I switch to full strength?

Thanks all!
 
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BCMango

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fierybong said:
Should I be letting the medium get to dry at this point before watering or should it still be wet almost always? Gaging that with the hempy method I am not yet sure on... any advice is appreciated.

I mixed half strength nuts today, 4 ml micro 8 ml bloom, PH'd it after right at 6.5ish. The cups are 7 almost exactly with the 4:1 perlite/vermiculite mix.

When should I start offering nutrients to the clones? Should I do nuts/plain/nuts/plain and alternate waterings or always give the half strength? When should I switch to full strength?

Thanks all!
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I wait till the soil is just barly damp like it still feels like it has just a bit of water left but not much but it will change with diffrent strains and as for the clones I soke the Jiffy pucks with B-1 and just have them in the green house with the dome and mist them with water dayly and once they are ready to plant into pots then yuo can use a weak B-1 Mix
 
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fierybong

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Thanks for the reply, however the clones are in hempy cups, not in dirt. Dirt I have a really good feel for now, in fact I just wait until the plants are wilted to water them, best indicator that I have found.

I plan to try half strength nuts tonight, that will have been 48 hours since I cut the clones. Depends on how dry the medium is and how the clones look.

Really need some advice on how dry I should let the hydroponic substrate get before I offer more water. Maybe what BCMango said applies to any grow medium? Also, I don't have a dome for them but it's currently 60% humidity in the grow.
 
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fierybong said:
Thanks for the reply, however the clones are in hempy cups, not in dirt. Dirt I have a really good feel for now, in fact I just wait until the plants are wilted to water them, best indicator that I have found.

I plan to try half strength nuts tonight, that will have been 48 hours since I cut the clones. Depends on how dry the medium is and how the clones look.

Really need some advice on how dry I should let the hydroponic substrate get before I offer more water. Maybe what BCMango said applies to any grow medium? Also, I don't have a dome for them but it's currently 60% humidity in the grow.
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for any grow medium you don't want it to wet but you don't want it to dry. Both of thoes could cause root damage. and if your clones are still new I'd try maybe 1/8 strength because if you add to much you'll have to adjust the nutes realy fast before damage is caused, if you use low nute level and there's problums it shouldn't be as bad as if you used 1/4
 
OB Cron Kenobi

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you need more humidity- without a dome your missing out big time... put them in an aquarium of find a way to increase the levels- the misting is the key- you dont have to keep the medium that wet- you want to encourage the roots to form spreading out trying to find moisture, misting makes the leaves absorb nutrients and water and deliver it to the plant to develop roots.

Hope that helps- just what i have read from the bible and others on how to clone, i will be cloning my first in a couple of weeks but i always research early and talk to alot of ppl on this site bout it.
 
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trying to get clones to root...

I dont know where their getting their info- but i am pretty sure 30% humidity will kill your plants chances of rooting...

Jorge Cervantes may be a bad buisnessman, but he is a hell of a grower- and this page of his book is pretty clear about the temp and what not of cloning... Check it out for yourself- he recommends 95%-100%... and as i said the soil medium can be more dry, its the moisture that is critical for the leaves to absorb and deliver to stem production!!! it makes sense...
 

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I set it up so that my computer/webcam sends me a picture of my grow room to my cell phone every few hours or so. This includes my thermometer/humidity gauge in the snapshot, pretty cool. I put sunglasses over the web cam lens so it could see through the blinding light.

Going to be away from them for a bit, I am going to put holes in the cup edges on the bottom and fill the dish they are in with water to keep them from dieing while I'm away, unless anyone has better suggestions. They will have to go 100 hours or so between waterings so, I dunno if just a good drench at first will do it or if they need a res.

I didn't water them this morning or last night though I have been misting them regularly like a lot, every few hours when I am around them. The substrate was dry and tipping the cup produced nothing from the hole even on the cup's side; i.e. there was nothing left in the res.

Have I reached the point yet where they would be dead if they were going to die before rooting at all? I would think it would happen pretty darn fast...
 
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For the webcam I just use an 'in general' windows automation tool called Macro Express to take a snapshot, save the file and email it... my solution would be specific to each computer and webcam software it is set up on; it just happens to work for me BUT there is software out there that can do this for you; more common is software that will post an image to an FTP site so you can view it online or log into the FTP server and view the images.

Anyway, NEW PICS! Mom's are getting just huge, as far as watering goes I just wait until they are wilted and then soak the hell out of them with like 40-50 oz of water each... every time I water they just seem to burst out of the ground the next few days.

Can't wait for positive IDs on sex... I don't know what I'd do if I don't have at least one female.... >_<

I have no idea what the clones should look like, I got as close as I can but unfortunately I don't have a high res camera solution available to me. They are green with green tips all over... I 'filled' the cups last night around 3am and there is maybe 1/4" of water left in the bottom an hour ago. I try to keep them misted.

Pics attached, I call the camera setup "Priapus"

First pic is the view from the cam.
 

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fierybong said:
For the webcam I just use an 'in general' windows automation tool called Macro Express to take a snapshot, save the file and email it... my solution would be specific to each computer and webcam software it is set up on; it just happens to work for me BUT there is software out there that can do this for you; more common is software that will post an image to an FTP site so you can view it online or log into the FTP server and view the images.

Anyway, NEW PICS! Mom's are getting just huge, as far as watering goes I just wait until they are wilted and then soak the hell out of them with like 40-50 oz of water each... every time I water they just seem to burst out of the ground the next few days.

Can't wait for positive IDs on sex... I don't know what I'd do if I don't have at least one female.... >_<

I have no idea what the clones should look like, I got as close as I can but unfortunately I don't have a high res camera solution available to me. They are green with green tips all over... I 'filled' the cups last night around 3am and there is maybe 1/4" of water left in the bottom an hour ago. I try to keep them misted.

Pics attached, I call the camera setup "Priapus"

First pic is the view from the cam.
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I've read that if you give them 24 to 48 hours of 100% darkness they will show their sex faster but I dk how true that is
 
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Hrm... small parts of (but not even close to all or most and not on the tips) the new growth right down in the middle looks rusty... except on the darkest green clone.

In other news I am now smoking the about 1/3 to 1/2 oz I got from my 'failed' first grow and it is some niiiiiice shit. Really smooth, really sticky, makes blunts that are impossible to hit (but stay lit!). Prolly needs a tad more cure/drying but the stone is niiiice. Real couch lock shit though! I know it would be better to wait around, do it exactly right, but this time I am impatient and honestly: I really liked to try to break things in minor ways on that first grow once I knew what I was doing with my proper one... just to see what happens; why fret over 1/4 oz if it will help me in the future no?
 
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Wanted to share something with you all...

This is the very first blunt that I ever rolled from weed that I grew myself.

Ladies and gents behold: (so far) a five hundred dollar blunt! lol

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BCMango

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fierybong said:
Wanted to share something with you all...

This is the very first blunt that I ever rolled from weed that I grew myself.

Ladies and gents behold: (so far) a five hundred dollar blunt! lol

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lmfao damn , you should try to make a $3,000 blunt (1lb)
 
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