A tribute to Uncle Ben and the Almighty Leaf

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chuck estevez

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actually they don't all eat the same stuff, region climate and time of year will dictate what they eat more than likely in very different places . . . .


and an obvious reason is each animals digestion is different. . . .what does that have to do with the price of tea in china

and understanding digestion specific attributes of animals and their similar diets has no direct link with knowledge in horticulture

1000 ways to skin a cat
Looks like you know your shit,lol
 

Dboi87

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i guess so . . . UB has been on this kick that his tech is the only tech . . .. to use cause hes a commercial farmer .. . . . and everything he talks about is about as novice as tech as possible , keep leaves green and healthy . . .. fucking duh . . . .. . dont use fake nutrients . .. . fucking DUH, now his every nutrient brand is snake oil tripe is highly dubious . . .. . although he plugs dyna grow or some other companies product right after word every time



THE GUY THINKS HE INVENTED MULTI-BRANCH OUTCOME TOPPING TECHNIQUE . . need anyone say more . .. . thousands of years of cultivation . . and UB discovered it

tried and true tech like gas lantern technique used for generations of growers ......"has no basis in botany"-Uncle Ben . . .. . .really a photo-period that grows plants has no basis in botany . . . .guy is high on himself


please . . proceed
I haven't ever heard him say he invented that technique. He just posted it to introduce it to novice growers who otherwise were ignorant to it. And also you have to realize that the stuff he has been preaching IS super basic but only because a huge percentage of any marijuana forum members really have very little growing skill and or experience (myself included). I mean look at how many people toss out all of these brand names and light wattages and different "techniques" that are supposed to be advanced. They can spit out all this techinicall jargon but then can't figure out what some necrosis is showing up for or why leaves are dying etc.

Just take a look at all the journals. So many are started and then the OP goes missing like hoffa. Probably because they tried to sound like pros and their plant ended up lookin like Charlie Browns Christmas tree.

I feel like if you think you have growing pot down and you feel your ways of growing are solid by all means do you. But UB definitely has helped me along with many others at least step back and get the most important part of growing ANYTHING, the basics, down.

He never claims to be some grow god. It others that give him props. In fact if anything he flames us on the way up and the ones tough enough to take the criticism and learn a thing or two benefit and get results to prove it.

And this thread is a TRIBUTE to UB. If guys really dislike him so much why in the world are you in this thread? He bothers some of you so much to the point you follow him to flame him?

If anything that type of behaviour only makes him seem even more important and larger than life. There are only two guys on here that get attention like that. UB and Subcool, and it makes others realize they must be doing something right to where they are followed by both people that love and people that hate them follow them.

"I don't care what you say about me, just spell my name right" - P.T. Barnum
"Without promotion something terrible happens.... Nothing!" - P.T. Barnum
 

Dboi87

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And the guy grows everything under the sun. He's literally a professional. People buy his grapes for fucks sake. Jesus tap dancin Christ if any one else on this forum can sell major weight in grapes you have my full respect...
 

PJ Diaz

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I haven't ever heard him say he invented that technique. He just posted it to introduce it to novice growers who otherwise were ignorant to it.
Well, that's where you're wrong. From here: https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/151706-uncle-bens-topping-technique-get-346.html#post5480974

I did invent this topping technique. If you can prove otherwise, then do so, or shut the fuck up dlively. You're just being a petty little prick.

To whom it might concern, if you have nothing to contribute but FUD, then spin your bullshit elsewhere, not in my thread.

UB
 

Uncle Ben

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.....And this thread is a TRIBUTE to UB. If guys really dislike him so much why in the world are you in this thread? He bothers some of you so much to the point you follow him to flame him?

If anything that type of behaviour only makes him seem even more important and larger than life. There are only two guys on here that get attention like that. UB and Subcool, and it makes others realize they must be doing something right to where they are followed by both people that love and people that hate them follow them.
Yep, some of these folks need to get a life. :rolleyes:

I did invent a specific method to induce 2 or 4 main colas for cannabis, for the record. The trolls will try to spin it saying I claim I invented topping or other pruning methods which have been done on plant material forever. Much to my amusement it was years later that Aryjan of Greenhouse Seedbank copied it and made my new training method into a YouTube video. Those who opine otherwise are just drawing straws to try demean me and that's OK. I understand the human psyche and how petty some folks can be. Back to the 4 main cola drill. Since I understood plant responses and what makes a plant tick, I observed the output on my first grows and noticing the output from the nodal axis thought, "wait a minute, why not use and allow that output to become main colas?" On the next garden, I snipped a few plants, it worked and a new way of training cannabis was invented. :)

I go way back, long before internet forums like this existed and that's when I did a helluva lot of experimentation on cannabis. I already had an extensive background in horticulture so experimentation on plant material was second nature to me. For pot growers the very FIRST social site was a Usenet group called ADPC which I was active in. We used to post encrypted by chain mailing encrypted servers and used PGP to correspond in private. There was no PM's and email was not popular, we were exploring new space and we were criminals! Pot laws were brutal and folks were paranoid to even discuss growing pot. It was also during the FIRST days that folks had a channel to get seeds mailed to them from the Dam. Distributor's name was Jock. My avatar was some of that seed stock. We had a lot of heated discussions and I probably have trolls from that era still trolling me to this day....don't know. One of the most heated was a discussion between me and a very popular hydro grower with the handle "pH". Discussion was soil versus hydro he claiming this and that, me saying baloney. :)

Then came some of the first sites, one which I modded. It was the first cannabis Vbulletin forum called cannabis.com aka Marihemp. Then came the largest site in all of history, Overgrow.com, such that it made newspaper news especially when Ron of Heaven's Stairway (and owner of OG and CW) got his large seed biz busted by the Canadian Royal Police..... his records, products, and computers confiscated. He also ran Cannabis World which potroast, the admin/owner here, moderated. I posted thousands and thousands of posts at all of those sites. Soon came hundreds of cannabis websites with Gypsy over at IC Mag, seedbanks, and the seed chuckers and forums popped up like a sunflower patch on a wet May day in Texas.

I still have hundreds of those conversations archived.

So that kiddies, is a little bit of history of the early virtual world.

Uncle Ben
 

genuity

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post some up-to-date pics,and you will get "likes" too....and if you really think you "invented" the method to get 2-4 mains....you are nuts.
 

patlpp

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Sorry for the prior comment if it offended anybody. It just gets a bit disgusting sometimes when I read some of these blatant brown nose, ass-kissing posts.

It gets my eyes rolling and I get a headache.
 

Dboi87

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Sorry for the prior comment if it offended anybody. It just gets a bit disgusting sometimes when I read some of these blatant brown nose, ass-kissing posts.

It gets my eyes rolling and I get a headache.
I'm not offended. Just don't understand why theres all this animosity in these threads. Like I said it's a thread a member made as a tribute to another member. Whether or not others disagree is fine but why come into a tribute thread to shit on others? You wouldn't do that in the real world. I quickly glanced at a few of your posts on your profile and it seems like maybe you were in the service? Either way, I'm sure there are guys who are complete tools but if someone set up an event in honor of the guy people who for whatever reason disliked him wouldn't camp out and crash it for only the sake of shitting on the guy.

I dunno I just wish things were more civil. As someone trying to get a grasp on all the aspects of growing, some people really make it difficult. What ever happened to stoners being happy people?

Peace and love bros
 

Sativied

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Much to my amusement it was years later that Aryjan of Greenhouse Seedbank copied it and made my new training method into a YouTube video.
:lol: Yeah, that sounds like Arjan from GHS, the self-proclaimed "king of cannabis" :spew: For more amusement watch a recent docu on strainhunters... Every time I see/hear/read (about) Arjan I get what we refer to as 'a feeling of place-exchanging shame'.

I don't know how old his vid is but I'm sure I can find examples older than Arjan's, obviously.

The trolls will try to spin it saying I claim I invented topping or other pruning methods which have been done on plant material forever.
Yes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man just another fallacy, and how those who don't have valid arguments debate. I've seen many many many topped plants over many years and when I read yours it seemed original enough to call it UB's topping technique. Seems like quite a waste of veg time as well but that's besides the point :)
 

patlpp

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@Dboi87 You just went on and on man...couldn't help it. You mentioning I was in the service: That is exactly where I've seen brown nosing done to a fine art. Totally disgusting. I will be civil for now on.

But the slinging started here by Mr Roasted man of honor himself:

Sure you do. And I'm a rocket engineer getting ready to fly some cannabis to Mars.
 
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