How to Combat Sunni Jihad

smok3y1

smok3y1

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Dr Kynes said:
yeah yeah yeah they WERE provided, and you danced a fine jig, claiming the translation was a jew plot to defame islam, just like the achmendinejhad "wipe israel off the map" english translations, which were good enough for the iranian government to publish, but apparently not good enough for anybody else to discuss.

youre still a one note joke.
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Well repost it. And you still think Iraq had WMD? or have you learned a few things since the last time we talked
 
Doer

Doer

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As I understand it, the clerics issue the Fatwah.

I don't see other groups, beyond the Mafia's abomination of Catholic, putting out hits on people world wide for any to claim glory.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/09/21/report-cleric-puts-fatwah-out-on-u-s-ambassadors-and-the-unrest-continues/
The fatwa is being reported by the Middle East Media Research Institute:
Following the September 11, 2012 killing of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, a number of queries were sent in to the Salafi-jihadi website Minbar Al-Tawhid Wal-Jihad (MTJ) regarding the legitimacy of this action. Answering on behalf of the website’s shari’a committee, Sheikh Abu Mundhir Al-Shinqiti issued a fatwa in which he approved of the killing of the U.S. ambassador and other U.S. diplomats, and refuted religious arguments raised by some Islamic scholars against such actions.

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Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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smok3y1 said:
Well repost it. And you still think Iraq had WMD? or have you learned a few things since the last time we talked
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tell ya what,, since you are an imam with the power to issue fatwas, as well as an islamic scholar why dont YOU post them, im not gonna wade through your shabby little book again so you can ONCE AGAIN claim "bad translation", "Jew Plot", "Needs Moar Context", and "but thats not what it means even when it says it quite clearly".

as a polytheist i am AUTOMATICALLY guilty of "shirk" and this irredeemable in the eyes of moslems, so i have ZERO interest in your excuses, lies and evasions.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/simple.html

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[66.9] O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort.

[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

[8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand.

i could go on, but you bore me.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Dr Kynes said:
tell ya what,, since you are an imam with the power to issue fatwas, as well as an islamic scholar why dont YOU post them, im not gonna wade through your shabby little book again so you can ONCE AGAIN claim "bad translation", "Jew Plot", "Needs Moar Context", and "but thats not what it means even when it says it quite clearly".

as a polytheist i am AUTOMATICALLY guilty of "shirk" and this irredeemable in the eyes of moslems, so i have ZERO interest in your excuses, lies and evasions.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/simple.html

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[66.9] O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort.

[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

[8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand.

i could go on, but you bore me.
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You going to enlist?
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Dr Kynes said:
NON SEQUITOR
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Non Sequitur*

I'm not the one beating war drums and making this out to be about the West defending against a jihad. That would be you. You're the only one quoting the Quran so it seems to me you're the only one who cares about it.

If you care so much, go kill some rag heads for freedom.
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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sunni said:
stop with the graphic images
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are people supporting our enemies and professing support for a designated foreign terrorist organisation something we should encourage?

Do you understand his avatar is the flag for the Mujahadeen? A catch all term for Islamic terrorism...
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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nontheist said:
I have never condoned Christian activity, which makes you a terrorism apologist you sick bastard.
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you have overlooked it before.

for example, when i pointed out how you proudly call yourself a bigot, saying that muslims all want to kill you, you said that you didn't see mormons out there doing the same.

then i pointed out the abortion clinic shooters and gay club bombers and you just wrote it off.

it's clear that you (and many others, OP included) hold a doube standard against muslims while excusing christians of their terrorism.

you are a terrorism apologist. live with it.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Dr Kynes said:
tell ya what,, since you are an imam with the power to issue fatwas, as well as an islamic scholar why dont YOU post them, im not gonna wade through your shabby little book again so you can ONCE AGAIN claim "bad translation", "Jew Plot", "Needs Moar Context", and "but thats not what it means even when it says it quite clearly".*

as a polytheist i am AUTOMATICALLY guilty of "shirk" and this irredeemable in the eyes of moslems, so i have ZERO interest in your excuses, lies and evasions.*

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/simple.html

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the*unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).*

[66.9] O Prophet! strive hard against the*unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort.

[5.33] The punishment of those who wage*war*against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

[8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to*war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand.

i could go on, but you bore me.
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Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
****Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. *Such evil must be purged from Israel.**(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
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Kill Witches
****You should not let a sorceress live.**(Exodus 22:17 NAB)
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Kill Homosexuals
****"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."* (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
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Kill Fortunetellers
****A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.* (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
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Death for Hitting Dad
****Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.**(Exodus 21:15 NAB)
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Death for Cursing Parents
****1)*If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.**(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
*** 2)*All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.* They are guilty of a capital offense.* (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
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Death for Adultery
****If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.* (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
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Death for Fornication
****A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.* (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
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Death to Followers of Other Religions
****Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.**(Exodus 22:19 NAB)
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Kill Nonbelievers
****They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.* (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
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Kill False Prophets
****If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord."* When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.**(Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
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Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
****Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.* In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.* If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.* Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.* Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.* That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.* Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.* Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.* He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.* "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."* (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
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Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
****But if this charge is true*(that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house.* Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.* (Deuteronomy* 22:20-21 NAB)
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Kill Followers of Other Religions.
*** 1)*If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.* Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.* You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.* And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.* (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
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*** 2)*Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden.* When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.**(Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
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Death for Blasphemy
****One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men.* During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. *So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. *His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan.* They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. *Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. *Then let the entire community stone him to death.* Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished.* Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. *Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die.* (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
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Kill False Prophets
****1)*Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, *and the predicted signs or miracles take place. *If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. *The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. *Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. *Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. *The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. *Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you.**(Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
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*** 2)*But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.'* You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?'* If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. *That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared.**(Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
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Infidels and Gays Should Die
****So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. *As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies.* Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. *So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. *Amen. *That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. *Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other.* And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. *Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. *When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done.* Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip.* They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. *They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents.* They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving.* They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. *And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.*(Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
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Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
****For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites.* You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. *They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it.* Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. *Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.'**(Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
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Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
****The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. *It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy.* Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. *Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community.* Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. *I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'**(Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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smok3y1 said:
Where does it say as a Sunni Muslim I have to force everyone to be the same or die?
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That's a question I would direct at salafists who subscribe to "Bid‘ah" or the rejection of innovation and progress because they view it as heresy. This complements perfectly, the takfir ideology of declaring all who do not "submit" to their radical beliefs/interpretations as apostates... Where does it say this as 20million people worldwide support this extreme ideology...
 
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