this is all about GOP cock block and nothing more..
Gov shut down
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UncleBuck
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racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Some how I don't think she was talking about pleasuring yourself UB..
Sand4x105
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I really seem to enjoy the prospect of having the government shut down...
This will be interesting.... Listening to the far left ... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa....
Listening to the right wingers.... Waaaaaaaaaa...
Nothing like a "real" circle jerk here, even with the lights on.... Wow....
This is fun....
This will be interesting.... Listening to the far left ... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa....
Listening to the right wingers.... Waaaaaaaaaa...
Nothing like a "real" circle jerk here, even with the lights on.... Wow....
This is fun....
Harrekin
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It would be interesting to see how much $$$$$$ is saved (per day) from it being shut down.
well i guess you don't read through the threads or are just on a troll expedition however, it's the opposite effect and costs billions..citation previously posted.
Rob Roy
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Agreed, nothing of value anyhow. They do produce debt, a parasitic protected class, war, prisons for innocents and cheese.
Harrekin
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I'm gonna need a link, because that sounds like retard logic 101.
They havnt money to pay for "stuff"...so it costs the taxpayer extra?
What, like an extra 25% of the zero they have left?
Cool story, bro.
Grandpapy
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It's my understanding that it cost us 200m a day in late fees and interest on loans, So it's really just a money maker for the Banks.
dude, don't be lazy..it's called page 1, then page 2, and so on..
Rob Roy
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If you didn't sign the contract agreeing to the cost....why does it cost you anything? I thought people in the USA were free to make agreements or not make agreements?
Harrekin
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Loans are still repaid, it's non-essential services that are shut down.
Schuyllar, I want an actual link, not some opinion piece on msnbc.
then google it, harry..i assure you it's there.
ink the world
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Funniest part of this whole thing is people being shocked. Gimme a break, the idiots pulling this shit ran on the concept of doing just what they are doing. Almost as funny is the Teabagger pols up here a few months ago celebrating how they saved all the jobs at the shipyard and how massively important those jobs and that income was to the local economy.
Fast forward a couple months and those same hack are now ensuring the furlough of those same workers. Small price to pay for America to wake up and kick the Tea Party to the curb
Fast forward a couple months and those same hack are now ensuring the furlough of those same workers. Small price to pay for America to wake up and kick the Tea Party to the curb
Harrekin
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Do the minority of people whom the Tea Party represent not deserve representation?
I don't endorse them at all, but I do believe in democracy.
Fungus Gnat
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We aren't a direct democracy like Ireland. House democrats got 650k more votes than house republicans last election yet are the minority party in the house. Wyoming a state of less than 600k people has as much say in the senate as California a state of 40 million people. So yes their say matters much more than it would in Ireland and they can shutdown the government using that power.
Dr Kynes
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and democrats when in the minority can do the same thing.
they HAVE done the same thing with far less reason to be butthurt.
this is art of the Checks and Balances which keep this gigantic country from falling apart into Warring States, and tiny little principalities
leftism is populist claptrap, and always gets fucktons of votes among the gimmee gimmee big city crowd, but it fails miserably in places where the constitution still means something.
why do you have no problem with harry reid stonewalling in the senate, not allowing votes on bills, but object to the republican majority in the house actually voting on bills?
dont bother answering, ill answer for you.
because leftism causes hypocrisy.
heckler73
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We have a similar issue in Canada at the Federal level.
This is an unfortunate side-effect of first past the post politics (with help from gerrymandering).
What makes it worse for the US is the false-dichotomy. At least we have 3 players (with a 4th coming up) and Quebec, so it makes it possible for minority gov'ts to be a result.
And even though they are a pain in the ass sometimes (i.e. votes of no confidence leading to new elections) it at least is a better representation of actual socio-political sentiment.
I am impressed with the concept of transferable votes, where actual voting numbers lead to "bonus seats" in Parliament. But some argue it leads to excessive bloat since these seats are generally added without compromising the original electoral maps.
So it is not a clean or smooth procedure to introduce.
But what other viable options are there?
Dr Kynes
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returning the senate to state controll, rather than popular elections, so states have a voice again, eliminating the K Street influence in washington, eliminating the power of vocal lobbying groups (including the right wing and conservative ones), institutuing term Limits for the house of representatives, prohibiting "honorariums" and other legal bribery, dismantling the bureaucracies and removing their power to craft laws and regulations outside of congress, scraping the layers of horseshit off the constitution and restoring our union to the republic it is supposed to be.
problem solved.
Doer
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No. You are delivering marketing data daily that no amount of money could buy.