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abandonconflict

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The military industrial complex has interests far beyond weapons, oil for example.

Masturbate elsewhere, grown folks is chattin up in here.

Wars are fought for resources.
 

Dr Kynes

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The military industrial complex has interests far beyond weapons, oil for example.

Masturbate elsewhere, grown folks is chattin up in here.

Wars are fought for resources.
orly? what resources did vietnam, korea and afghanistan have?

why has the US not received iraq's oil?

what profit was gleaned in resources from ww1 ww2 or the cold war?

your assumptions are based on marx's failed materialist view of society and history.
 

ASMALLVOICE

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A small factoid to remember, war is waged for many reasons, none more so than gains. If there is a war going on, you can bet your bottom dollar, someone is gaining and gaining a lot. The system as a whole shifts the focal points (where we war at), but the outcome is still the same, gains to be made.

Whether the gains are monies, lands, minerals, principals, ethics or morals or as simple as want or perception of a want, all have an agenda to bring about a change that in turn leads to gains.

War does not decide who is right, only who is left.

Peace

Asmallvoice
 

abandonconflict

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Vietnam and Korea are cheap manufacturers for the west. Besides capitalism vs communism is nowhere more evident than in those countries. Iraqi oil is only purchased by dollars. Lol@ the notion that Afghanistan has no resources. Business as usual.
 

beenthere

New Member
AC, you never answered my question whether the US could survive without a military industrial complex, all I got was another question.
 

Dr Kynes

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Vietnam and Korea are cheap manufacturers for the west. Besides capitalism vs communism is nowhere more evident than in those countries. Iraqi oil is only purchased by dollars. Lol@ the notion that Afghanistan has no resources. Business as usual.
so, failing to defend vietnam's democratically elected regime, and it's fall to Marxism was the west winning, and forcing them to become a cheap manufacturing base for crap textiles.
man those capitalists are SUPER SNEAKY!

S. Korea is really just a puppet regime of the US which is why they are so rich and successful...
Even Sneakier!

N. Korea is being USED by the west as a boogeyman, to spur more consumption...
sneakier still!

afghanistan is a nation with vast resources (besides a strategic location on the old silk road...) but it's a SEEKRIT!!
so sneaky!

iraq's oil is traded in US dollars (like almost all oil is...) and this helps the us because....

ummm....

ohh, i got it!

when japan buys iraq's oil with their $'s, then iraq uses those $'s to buy machine parts from germany, and germany uses those $'s to buy japanese electronic components every time they make the trade, the US gets a taste...

ohh wait..

they could use rocks, or old safeway coupons, or David Hasselhoff CD's as long as the currency is accepted by each party, and everybody is confident that the currency wont fold up or get inflated before they use it to buy THEIR shit.

youre an idiot,.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
so, failing to defend vietnam's democratically elected regime, and it's fall to Marxism was the west winning, and forcing them to become a cheap manufacturing base for crap textiles.
man those capitalists are SUPER SNEAKY!

S. Korea is really just a puppet regime of the US which is why they are so rich and successful...
Even Sneakier!

N. Korea is being USED by the west as a boogeyman, to spur more consumption...
sneakier still!

afghanistan is a nation with vast resources (besides a strategic location on the old silk road...) but it's a SEEKRIT!!
so sneaky!

iraq's oil is traded in US dollars (like almost all oil is...) and this helps the us because....

ummm....

ohh, i got it!

when japan buys iraq's oil with their $'s, then iraq uses those $'s to buy machine parts from germany, and germany uses those $'s to buy japanese electronic components every time they make the trade, the US gets a taste...

ohh wait..

they could use rocks, or old safeway coupons, or David Hasselhoff CD's as long as the currency is accepted by each party, and everybody is confident that the currency wont fold up or get inflated before they use it to buy THEIR shit.

youre an idiot,.
Absolutely none of this long winded diatribe refutes my argument that war for business interests. See my sig and learn brevity. Then learn what petrodollar means.

Oh wait, brevity is impossible to achieve when you're full of shit.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Absolutely none of this long winded diatribe refutes my argument that war for business interests. See my sig and learn brevity. Then learn what petrodollar means.

Oh wait, brevity is impossible to achieve when you're full of shit.
none of your short winded soliloquy refuted the fact that we LOST vietnam to marxism, yet still somehow "won" in your fantasy world

nor did you explain why S Korea is free and prosperous with plenty of fat sassy people dancing Gangnam Style, while marxist N Korea has people eating grasses and tree bark and getting shot trying to sneak into china...

brevity is useless when dealing with complex issues, which is why your bumpersticker slogans dont convince anybody except those who already suckle at the teat of Marx, like yourself.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
none of your short winded soliloquy refuted the fact that we LOST vietnam to marxism, yet still somehow "won"
I never said that. I said it was fought for business interests. You see, our business class opposed the whole commy thing. We didn't have to win in order for them to now be a source of cheap labor. We just had to fight. Good job on turning your otherwise useless post into an opportunity to call me a Marxist though.
 
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