16000+ watts medigrow: og kush+ 13 x 1kw hps + 3 x t5 badboys + grotek = *HAPPY JOY*

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
thanks for checking it out, folks. (i'm still tripped out about the fact that i have youtube subscribers :lol:) actually i rarely ever know what music i'm going to end up using when taking footage... and this time around the footage was provided by mr kitty, who may or may not have been celebrating but it probably wasn't wine. ;) (mr kitty prefers more amber-coloured poisons)
i usually just go with whatever i'm listening to a lot at the time... right now it's nouvelle vague week (they're a french bossa nova band who cover 80's new wave and punk tunes -- the singers are adorably française).

and jozi, this apparently isn't an og.... it's "tall kush" and they were rescues (although i'm convinced it must be part of the family somehow too). still have no idea what the geneology is but it is some frostiness.

i've been hearing abooot the whole 'giving/selling crappy clones' thing and am grateful that that isn't common practise around here. the only time a grower will be stingy with cuts is if they did the legwork themselves (breeding, pheno selection, etc.) and even then they'll get an earful from somebody. i once had a guy try to buy 2 clones of an LUI i'd juuuuust finished doing pheno selection on and he was very indignant when i told him it was gonna cost considerably more than $10. like, c'mon, you're a commercial grower with a bunch of commercial growers friends (i only had a 400w + 1k in my spare room at the time).... d'ya really think i'm gonna give you a chance to flood the market with the strain i've been working on for 6 months, for $5/per?
whereas if a strain was only passing through my hands i have no problem giving it out cheap or free.
That's completely understandable kitty. No reason to feel bad about that. Selection is the hardest part of breeding. Anyone can take two plants and make some seeds.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Hey beansly you hear anything on my account being demoted seems all bugged or locked up cant send pm or anything?

Sorry kitty to thread lack i just need help
 

collective gardener

Well-Known Member
thanks for checking it out, folks. (i'm still tripped out about the fact that i have youtube subscribers :lol:) actually i rarely ever know what music i'm going to end up using when taking footage... and this time around the footage was provided by mr kitty, who may or may not have been celebrating but it probably wasn't wine. ;) (mr kitty prefers more amber-coloured poisons)
i usually just go with whatever i'm listening to a lot at the time... right now it's nouvelle vague week (they're a french bossa nova band who cover 80's new wave and punk tunes -- the singers are adorably française).


Kitty, vid was awsome. It's cool to see the difference in BAVERB plants from overhead lighting. I noticed in the post trimmed pics the buds are quite full way down the plant. It even looks as if your focus of weight (FOW) is centered in the canopy. Nice. I have no doubt that the early nute burn affected your yield. I'm sure the next run will be much better. But isn't that always the case? Every op just keeps getting better and better every harvest.

I feel your pain on the clone front. Have a friend struggling to make ends meet on a 3k grow that's not doing well. He needs genetics bad. I just can't give them to him, though. We now have 3 Pre-98 Bubba Kush phenos that totally kick ass. We're trying to "brand" ourselves as THE source for elite Bubbas. I'm all for spreading the wealth, but there are limits. It's because quality cuts are so rare that our weed is in such high demand. Here in SoCal genetics make or break grow ops. helping out others is great, but not at your own peril.

I, too, want to see Harborside burned to the ground. I sold them an Lb a while back and they keep calling me for more. Fortunately, I don't need their business. Steve and Andrew are out for themselves and the almighty dollar. I would LOVE to audit their books. I promise you those guys are skimming millions a year. They are afraid legalization will change that. It probably won't. Shit, it's almost legal now. Just because we legalize rec use doesn't mean huge commercial production will be legal. There's alot of money being made just how things are. Even with legalization I do not believe too much will change for a while. Deangelo just wants to protect his little kingdom...and his little weiner.



and jozi, this apparently isn't an og.... it's "tall kush" and they were rescues (although i'm convinced it must be part of the family somehow too). still have no idea what the geneology is but it is some frostiness.

i've been hearing abooot the whole 'giving/selling crappy clones' thing and am grateful that that isn't common practise around here. the only time a grower will be stingy with cuts is if they did the legwork themselves (breeding, pheno selection, etc.) and even then they'll get an earful from somebody. i once had a guy try to buy 2 clones of an LUI i'd juuuuust finished doing pheno selection on and he was very indignant when i told him it was gonna cost considerably more than $10. like, c'mon, you're a commercial grower with a bunch of commercial growers friends (i only had a 400w + 1k in my spare room at the time).... d'ya really think i'm gonna give you a chance to flood the market with the strain i've been working on for 6 months, for $5/per?
whereas if a strain was only passing through my hands i have no problem giving it out cheap or free.
Kitty, vid was awsome. It's cool to see the difference in BAVERB plants from overhead lighting. I noticed in the post trimmed pics the buds are quite full way down the plant. It even looks as if your focus of weight (FOW) is centered in the canopy. Nice. I have no doubt that the early nute burn affected your yield. I'm sure the next run will be much better. But isn't that always the case? Every op just keeps getting better and better every harvest.

I feel your pain on the clone front. Have a friend struggling to make ends meet on a 3k grow that's not doing well. He needs genetics bad. I just can't give them to him, though. We now have 3 Pre-98 Bubba Kush phenos that totally kick ass. We're trying to "brand" ourselves as THE source for elite Bubbas. I'm all for spreading the wealth, but there are limits. It's because quality cuts are so rare that our weed is in such high demand. Here in SoCal genetics make or break grow ops. helping out others is great, but not at your own peril.

I, too, want to see Harborside burned to the ground. I sold them an Lb a while back and they keep calling me for more. Fortunately, I don't need their business. Steve and Andrew are out for themselves and the almighty dollar. I would LOVE to audit their books. I promise you those guys are skimming millions a year. They are afraid legalization will change that. It probably won't. Shit, it's almost legal now. Just because we legalize rec use doesn't mean huge commercial production will be legal. There's alot of money being made just how things are. Even with legalization I do not believe too much will change for a while. Deangelo just wants to protect his little kingdom...and his little weiner.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
finally! the site and my keyboard are both working, at the same time! (imagine that!)
be warned of some possible long-winded replies here.....

first off: joe: let's talk aminos finally, shall we? are you telling me you can foliar feed with a bragg's solution???
(muggie: here in n. america we have an edible amino product called 'bragg's' -- quite often one finds it as a soy sauce alternative in the health foods aisle.)

if i'm adding biochar to meh tea (C and O), do you think it would be more effective to add it to my feed solution, or still use it as a foliar feed?
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
on the harborside front: what chaps my ass the most is that they're basically standing on the backs of all the medical use advocates that have gone before them, AND setting back the activists that will come after them, all in one fell swoop -- it's disgusting.

i need to be clear about something here: i'm not against people turning a buck / making a profit in the mmj arena. now, i'm not saying let's hold peoples' kids' lunch money ransom or make them have to take out 3rd mortgages, i'm just saying just because it meets a medical need doesn't mean that the people who produce/provide it should be expected to do those things for free and volunteer their time and resources. especially considering that Big Pharma (aka the anti-legalisation lobby) are making hand-over-fist cash..... isn't it sort of like stacking the deck in their favour ourselves?
that said, harborside -- come on. you got your backs up against the wall, and all eyes are on you..... d'ya have to represent the movement as such.... idk,... dirtbags??
 

jyermum

Active Member
on the harborside front: what chaps my ass the most is that they're basically standing on the backs of all the medical use advocates that have gone before them, AND setting back the activists that will come after them, all in one fell swoop -- it's disgusting.

i need to be clear about something here: i'm not against people turning a buck / making a profit in the mmj arena. now, i'm not saying let's hold peoples' kids' lunch money ransom or make them have to take out 3rd mortgages, i'm just saying just because it meets a medical need doesn't mean that the people who produce/provide it should be expected to do those things for free and volunteer their time and resources. especially considering that Big Pharma (aka the anti-legalisation lobby) are making hand-over-fist cash..... isn't it sort of like stacking the deck in their favour ourselves?
that said, harborside -- come on. you got your backs up against the wall, and all eyes are on you..... d'ya have to represent the movement as such.... idk,... dirtbags??
are you saying that if you were trying to reverse a million dollar tax bill you might bring a lawyer or something? I guess they just thought that a guy in a dress and one smoked on edibles that practiced a speech would be enough. :)

How you been kitty?
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
jyer! dagnabbit, i knew i should've tried harder to make it down for the bbq, i'd've given you a run for wheezer's prize...... *sniff*

and ya, i'm saying exactly that. (preferably a TEAM of lawyers.) but i've never made any bones about the fact that i think the medical/recreational divide is, in and of itself, part of the Divide and Conquer.

my own view of "medicinal" use is broader than "pain relief" or "cancer-inhibiting" -- say you're a generally healthy person in both mind and body, you have a shitty day at work, your car breaks down on the way home so you call your spouse to ask for help and end up having a huge fight, so you walk 2 miles in the freezing rain to finally arrive home, where your dog has apparently had diarrhea.... inside. after cleaning it all up and calling the AAA, you finally sit down with a moment to yourself and think, "i NEED a joint SO BAD right about now."
i realise i'm being a bit extreme here with the situation, but i would personally define ^this^ particular need as "medicinal". you got your "stress relief", your "anti-depressant", and, if it keeps you from escalating the spousal strife once he/she gets home, it's practically a bomb shelter. i've read in a textbook about ADHD that undiagnosed adults tend to be either alcoholics or heavy users of cannabis. it went on to explain that while society at large would tend to see these as "substance abuse," more than likely, in the undiagnosed patient context, it's something more akin to "self-medication."
many medicinal usage advocates i know tend to shy away from these definitions of "medicinal"; i think many of them fear it would trivialise the cause of medicinal users with more serious and longterm needs. personally, i don't see how it would harm the medicinal movement to get the periodic, casual and less needy medicinal users on their team as well, instead of alienating each other--> which then gives rise to the "babysteps is ok" vs "babysteps means corporate takeover" debate (prop 19 debacle, anyone?). ultimately we're being played off each other by the Big Pharma lobby. legal/illegal, small/big, medicinal/recreational, we all have a dog in this fight. if the Divide and Conquer wins, we lose.
so in a way, we ought to be thanking harborside for unifying the rest of us. unfortunately the General Public is prrrrrobably not going to see it that way.
/rant

i've been seasonally busy as of late, although i'm not complaining :). how's the wee one doing?
 

fumble

Well-Known Member
Hey there Mello. How've you been? Love the rant btw. Personally, I don't think 'they' have any right to tell 'us' what and when we can put anything into our own bodies. Put 'them' in front of me when I am stressed aka: anytime I don't smoke, and 'they' would be begging me to smoke a joint. 'they' can get in line with the rest of the 'people' waiting for me to give an efffff. lol I smoke to avoid charges being filed against me hehehehehe
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
fumblezzzzz! how the heck are ya?
i completely agree, i've always considered myself an anti-prohibitionist. my personal belief is that the only "law" any society needs is The Golden Rule, with caveats for people like masochists and sociopaths (you know, just because i want to be tied up and spanked doesn't mean i should go around assuming that everybody else wants me to tie them up and spank them, that sort of thing :lol:) (<--hypothetically speaking, of course ;)). i think society would be a much healthier place if there were less laws designed to protect us from ourselves.
 

fumble

Well-Known Member
Yeah, there is nothing like a good spanking! lol I love the Golden Rule theory. Can't we all just get along? You do your thing, I'm gonna do mine. Me smoking a joint isn't going to hurt you, in fact, it will probably save your life. hehehe (you being the general public)
 

jyermum

Active Member
jyer! dagnabbit, i knew i should've tried harder to make it down for the bbq, i'd've given you a run for wheezer's prize...... *sniff*

and ya, i'm saying exactly that. (preferably a TEAM of lawyers.) but i've never made any bones about the fact that i think the medical/recreational divide is, in and of itself, part of the Divide and Conquer.

my own view of "medicinal" use is broader than "pain relief" or "cancer-inhibiting" -- say you're a generally healthy person in both mind and body, you have a shitty day at work, your car breaks down on the way home so you call your spouse to ask for help and end up having a huge fight, so you walk 2 miles in the freezing rain to finally arrive home, where your dog has apparently had diarrhea.... inside. after cleaning it all up and calling the AAA, you finally sit down with a moment to yourself and think, "i NEED a joint SO BAD right about now."
i realise i'm being a bit extreme here with the situation, but i would personally define ^this^ particular need as "medicinal". you got your "stress relief", your "anti-depressant", and, if it keeps you from escalating the spousal strife once he/she gets home, it's practically a bomb shelter. i've read in a textbook about ADHD that undiagnosed adults tend to be either alcoholics or heavy users of cannabis. it went on to explain that while society at large would tend to see these as "substance abuse," more than likely, in the undiagnosed patient context, it's something more akin to "self-medication."
many medicinal usage advocates i know tend to shy away from these definitions of "medicinal"; i think many of them fear it would trivialise the cause of medicinal users with more serious and longterm needs. personally, i don't see how it would harm the medicinal movement to get the periodic, casual and less needy medicinal users on their team as well, instead of alienating each other--> which then gives rise to the "babysteps is ok" vs "babysteps means corporate takeover" debate (prop 19 debacle, anyone?). ultimately we're being played off each other by the Big Pharma lobby. legal/illegal, small/big, medicinal/recreational, we all have a dog in this fight. if the Divide and Conquer wins, we lose.
so in a way, we ought to be thanking harborside for unifying the rest of us. unfortunately the General Public is prrrrrobably not going to see it that way.
/rant

i've been seasonally busy as of late, although i'm not complaining :). how's the wee one doing?
It would have been great to meet you but maybe next year. It sounds like the whole thing is going to get out of control before too long but it was a great experience and I met a bunch of great people.

The accepted thing to do in your crappy day scenario would be go home and eat a Xanax or Valium maybe washing them down with a few drinks. So the "establishment" is 100% cool with that but burning one is evil. I completely see the mental wellness medicinal value also.

The little guy is such a trip thanks for asking. Every day is something new and it's all killer. He's almost 4 months old now and the wife's back to work on an early schedule so we hang out every day until around 2:30 while I work from home. It's so cool seeing him figure stuff out every day and his big toothless smile is priceless.
 

hazorazo

New Member
fumblezzzzz! how the heck are ya?
i completely agree, i've always considered myself an anti-prohibitionist. my personal belief is that the only "law" any society needs is The Golden Rule, with caveats for people like masochists and sociopaths (you know, just because i want to be tied up and spanked doesn't mean i should go around assuming that everybody else wants me to tie them up and spank them, that sort of thing :lol:) (<--hypothetically speaking, of course ;)). i think society would be a much healthier place if there were less laws designed to protect us from ourselves.
hahahahahaha, I love this post. I am about to embark on some major hash making, and hash edible making. I shall return when the spring sings. Who am I kidding....I will be here the whole fucking time.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
mr kitty just asked me for my "santa list" and as i rattled off wanted items i realised it's ALL paraphanelia.....

beans
bulbs
microplane (for the rize-style ice wax)
macro lens (for the bud shots)
nail-n-dome
that pocket-torch-lighter with the hotknife attachment

..... and mr kitty is the voice of reason, as usual, because he then asked me if i could come up with ONE present that i can open in front of the kid on xmas morning..... :lol:
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
mr kitty just asked me for my "santa list" and as i rattled off wanted items i realised it's ALL paraphanelia.....

beans
bulbs
microplane (for the rize-style ice wax)
macro lens (for the bud shots)
nail-n-dome
that pocket-torch-lighter with the hotknife attachment

..... and mr kitty is the voice of reason, as usual, because he then asked me if i could come up with ONE present that i can open in front of the kid on xmas morning..... :lol:
awww
I want you for Christmas too kitty ;) lol
How've you been kitty kat? Did you ever find out what strain it was you were growing? How was the smoke anyways? Any new news on the nutrient challenge? Love what you girl! Keep it and happy holidays!
 
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