400W, 5 Plants, Indoor, First Grow

steeZz

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Dont forget about the Desert Dream pictures on the bottom of page four.
Heres the Hindu Kush, and the seedling... shes a little bit behind the rest of the girls but late is better than never.

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And the seedling, gettin bigggg :]
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Jesushasdreads

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Not so much what in soil? I said to keep it between 6.0 -7.0 in the post above.. are you advising that its appropriate to go outside of that range?

Im pretty sure staying between 6.0 and 7.0 is the same thing as not straying too far acidic or alkaline? no?
i was just saying ph isn't as big of a concern in soil vs. hydro ponics. i've grown all different types of systems and soil is more forgiving- most quality organic soils contain a ph buffer (usually dolomite) so in soil you can grow without issue in the 6.0 - 7.0 range however in hydroponics you are right lower ph 5.5- 6.5 but should be relatively constant...i wouldnt flutuate any ph levels in a hydro system and it becomes more important to have a quality tester/ monitoring system in hydro vs. soil. my last post was pretty unclear, my mistake
 

alotaball

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LOL its cool Jesus.. I just didnt understand cus it kinda seemed like we were saying the same thing...

What you growing in right now Jesus? Soil or Hydro.. and what do you prefer? .... just curious
 

Jesushasdreads

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both, right now i got a new soil concentrate mix im trying out for flowering in 3 gal pots, i got a couple outdoor plants doing their thing, and i got some mothers + clones in coco + perlite soiless mix feeding GH 3 part that im gonna fire up a SOG w/ after my soil test. i prefer soil definitly for my own personal smoke, natural + organic is the best medicine but i am impressed with the growth rates one can achieve in even a simple hydro system (such as DWC) hydro is great in its own respect, its fun, fast, efficient and very educational to learn, but im mother nature's son and have to side with soil. soiless is a happy medium im content with as well
 

alotaball

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Wow pretty much describes my exact opinions.. productions and speed of growth .. hydro HANDS DOWN... but I grow for personal and friends.. and you cant beat the taste and potency from a good soil grow.. Im about to do 4 dwc trees in my tent then 6-8 soils on the other side of the tent... I have some IRS debt to pay.. So I figured I can get a donation for the hydro stuff.. and keep all the soil for personal...

My dream hydro setup would be a rdwc.. no individual bucket maintenence .. but .. Im only doing 4 bubble buckets as of now .. so it wont be TOOO bad lol. Do you have a journal up?
Im gonna start a fresh one soon.. Im still cleaning up and waiting for a couple things from my last round.. Came out pretty good for my first run in this setup ...
 

steeZz

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alotaball you're going to have to give me the scoop on dwc systems and whatnot when I cruise down there, i'm also sold on the faster growth when it comes to hydro...
..even though soil seems a lot easier than I thought it would be.

Thanks for the props weeman, I appreciate it and i'm happy my whole grow isn't a big mess lol.

what do you guys think of the whole cell phone to microscope thing? fucking bravo right?! thank my girlfriend for that ingenuity.
I also picked up some full strength molasses from the grocery store, Brer rabbit?.. not sure if this is the right kind >.<
I compaired this one to the grandmas molasses you told me to get as a last resort alotaball, and this one has like double the concentration of everything for half the price.

also, can I mix my molasses into my 5gal jugs of water and just have it ready to go when i need to mix nutrients or whatnot?
or do I need to do it fresh everytime I water?
 

steeZz

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Gonna be checking these bad b...girls after class on my laptop. I can so imagine how pumped you are right now. ;}
you have no flippin idea man... i'm happy the desert dream is coming along quicker though cause its my most sativa.. slim chance i can harvest all at once?
lets hope
 

alotaball

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Hey bro i figured since I havent started a new thread yet I would share some of the stuff that I had going once my harvest was done..remember this Alien OG that I trained a little.. in the smart pot.. shes starting to go off :)



Here is that querkle pheno I was jazzed about ...



remember I mentioned that this isnt a big yielder.. but every nug is dense and nice.. look at the nug formation even right by the soil.. Not one bud went in my hash/trim bag



And last but not least.. this is the Purple Kush genetics im playing with .. it went in with the Alien OG.. check it out .. the purple is coming in from the bud out.. loving it and its only week 2-4 ill have to check my calender and OBVIOUSLY my temps are not low lol.. fucking 100 plus outside .

Im done polluting your thread now.. but ya .. I think we should go in on those genetics we were tlaking about .. look how his stuff comes out.. that querkle is really good smelling too.. U ready? I want Jilly Bean and Agent Orange.. you pick 2 other strains you want .. and we can grow em out and have 4 strains to fuck with LOL :)
 

steeZz

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ahhhh that fucking alien blew the fuck up. wow, I remember when you first trained it holy shit.

and that querkle looks a lot more querkley imo.
im down though i'd go with the ace of spades and pandoras box, most appealing to me since you picked agent orange.
plus these seeds i got already, they might turn out to be diamonds who knows.
 

steeZz

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Master Bubba, BlueDreamxPlatinumOG, and the Northern Lights got their first dose of molasses this morning, 1/2tbsp per gal and some nutes... Master bubba has like a root system so thick and close to the top that when I water it it doesnt want to let go.. so I have to like stick my finger in and loosen up holes to make it release water o.o
I also gave them a little more nutes, I'm really just eyeballing it really cause I refill my watering can for each plant, so I'm able to give them their own personal lovin and everything seems to be going well. Desert dream got about 2 - 2.5 ML of nitrogen for 1 1/2 - 2 gals of water, last time i'm going to be feeding her any. MB and NL got about 1 - 1.5 ML for 1 1/2 - 2 gals of water, also the last time i'm going to be giving it to them, plan to have them off nitrogen by week 3.

everything looks good, just pulling off casual fan leafs off the plants that arent getting light and are starting to die.. not sure if its bad to do that but ehh. Desert dream still dominates them all with potency of her smell, since flowering started she has been spewing out dank aroma.

Hindu will be getting her feeding tomorrow.
If I feel theres a big change by then i'll post some more pictures aswell :]
 

Dubbz0r

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Wow, yea you are going through the same thing as me right now lol actually what I was going through last week. Every day I'm cleaning up yellow or crusty fan leaves off the floor. Most of the yellow ones still on the plant fall off in my hand as soon as I touch them. Also my soil is tough at the top. People say to stick your finger in the pot about 2-3 inches to feel if it's moist so not to over water. Fuck, I wish I could stick my finger in the pot that far. Seems like the roots are RIGHT THERE. I'm always afraid I'm going to break roots n shit. Now I've been using this shitty prong ph tester to put holes in a few places just to aerate the soil a bit. Your plants look like a good size, no? Mine might be bigger just cause they're a week ahead of yours too. Then again I did some major LST and supercropping to these ladies too... that SC is no joke. I have buds on the lowest branches that are going to be the same size as the top kola. Keep it up man, you have some nice strains to deal with and will no doubt have some great smoke when you're done.
 

steeZz

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hahahaha yea!!! Fuck thank god someone knows what i'm talking about.

nahh, the leaves i'm pulling off aren't yellow or dead.. they are still green but they are obviously dying and not getting any light, and when i bend them they snap off without having to cut or do anything.
i've noticed when the lower leaves do that, i think its time to go, cause when I apply the same pressure to fan leaves up top.. they aint going no where.

you got more lights and more space and probably veg'd them a lot bigger aswell.. the surface area on the tops of your plants are ridiculous huge like alotaballs, really well spread out.
i'm in 3x3 so i had to be a little bit more of a vagina about it.
 

Dubbz0r

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If I have to put any pressure on the leaves at all, I leave them be. You'll see... if they're ready to fall off they will as soon as you touch them. I wouldn't break any off though, let them do that shit on their own just in case (my noob mentality lol). Surprisingly my veg was only 3 weeks. One week of 24 hour under the MH after their transplant. Then two weeks of 18/6 under the mh. I did a ton of supercropping though. That might be the difference right there. How long did you veg? (i could go look but i'm baked and lazy lmao).
 

steeZz

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I veg'd the sativa for like 28 days, the others were like 25 i think.. might be more might be less but more than 3 weeks.
yea I got what you're saying, I guess i'll just wait to take them off.. i'm just a perfectionist and don't want any dirty ass lookin shit on my plants. lol.
 

Dubbz0r

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Man trust me, I am the SAME fucking way LOL I don't want that half yellow necrotic looking leaf hanging off my beautiful plant. I also don't want to take something away from her while she may be using it. When she doesn't want it anymore she'll let me have it lol
 

alotaball

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Man trust me, I am the SAME fucking way LOL I don't want that half yellow necrotic looking leaf hanging off my beautiful plant. I also don't want to take something away from her while she may be using it. When she doesn't want it anymore she'll let me have it lol
Exactly! .. if its consuming its own leaves... why take it off.. she will drop em when she is done using em for all they are worth..
 
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