911 Conspiracy

The events that unfolded on 911 were

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hom36rown

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not to mention he denied it to al ja zeera just days after 9/11...why would he deny it, then make a video saying he did it...This is his quote which I copied from the pbs website September 16, 2001
Osama bin Laden denies any involvement in the 9/11 attacks in a statement to Al Jazeera television, saying, "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons."
Flashpoints USA . America at War . In Focus . Post-9/11 Timeline | PBS
 

natrone23

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that guys looks a lot chubbier than bin laden. i can see a difference:mrgreen:

plus he was using the wrong hand to write with!!!!!

furthermore, why would the video be of such poor quality when bin laden is allegedly filthy rich and had the "brains, money, resources, etc etc, to set up 911"? i would think they could afford and find a means to getting a higher resolution vid camera in this day and age.....

just something to think about! :blsmoke:

The guy was in a cave in fucking Afghanistan.............hmmm wonder why it was poor quality..........................by the way that guy looks just like bin laden..............it is bin laden.......................I could say that about you if you if i had 2 different pics of you, I could say his hair in this one is over his eyebrow, but with this other pic from a different time its not the same he looks a little chubbier here too...
 

natrone23

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not to mention he denied it to al ja zeera just days after 9/11...why would he deny it, then make a video saying he did it...This is his quote which I copied from the pbs website September 16, 2001
Osama bin Laden denies any involvement in the 9/11 attacks in a statement to Al Jazeera television, saying, "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons."
Flashpoints USA . America at War . In Focus . Post-9/11 Timeline | PBS

Why would someone initially lie about a crime?............Would that be totally unfathomable for him to initially lie about his involvement in this operation?

You have come to the conclusion that it is more likely that he was not involved, and in fact are government or some grand international secret society ordered some government operatives planted explosives in the world trade center all up and down those hundreds of floors where they connected explosives to girders. Later on sept 11 2001 they cordinated 4 hijackings of civilian planes, or possibly they were radio controlled planes with know one on board , but either way the planes crashed into the buildings at full speed with a full tank of jet fuel, after they struck the buildings, the secret collabarators waited before they finally blew the demo, and they blew it at the exact spot where planes struck

George Bush and the government was able to all this and more but for some reason they wernt able to orchastrait to put some WMDS in basement in Iraq
 

hom36rown

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Why would someone initially lie about a crime?............Would that be totally unfathomable for him to initially lie about his involvement in this operation?
I think it is highly unlikely, something like this would take a lot of planning and you would think one would know going into it if they were going to confess to it, for whatever reason, beforehand. Osama bin laden isnt an idiot..if he wanted fame and glory then that would have been part of his intentions in doing it and he wouldve never denied it. If he was scared about the reprecussions of what he did and that is why denied it, Why would he turn around and make a video of himself confessing to it for all to know, so he coulld have a shit storm rained down upon him?
You have come to the conclusion that it is more likely that he was not involved,
I have come to the conclusion that there is no concrete evidence that osama bin laden masterminded 9/11 , and the government is obviously lying and covering things up so they must be protecting someone and I doubt they are doing it for bin laden
and in fact are government or some grand international secret society ordered some government operatives planted explosives in the world trade center all up and down those hundreds of floors
you wouldnt have to put explosives on every floor, only in certain spots
where they connected explosives to girders. Later on sept 11 2001 they cordinated 4 hijackings of civilian planes,
im confused, you obviously dont think coordinating the highjacking of four planes is that difficult as you believe a bunch of people with no flight experience did it, going way off course with no intervention from norad
or possibly they were radio controlled planes with know one on board but either way the planes crashed into the buildings at full speed with a full tank of jet fuel,
Yeah I dont know about you but I actually saw the planes hit the buildings, I dont think anyone could deny that part
after they struck the buildings, the secret collabarators waited before they finally blew the demo, and they blew it at the exact spot where planes struck
Who said they blew the demos at the exact point the plane hit, the demos were at key places throughout the building to make the building collapse . If the building started to collapse from fire damage 78 floors up or (or whatever floor it was on), dont you think it wouldve met with some resistance with all the remaining floors where most of the building shouldve been fine, they fell at freefall speed, like a demo.

George Bush and the government was able to all this and more but for some reason they wernt able to orchastrait to put some WMDS in basement in Iraq
there is a method to there madness. The major thing 9/11 did was scare americans, so that the bush administration could have a "defense" budget capable of world conquest, and give them enourmous leverage in everything they did. They just distracted everyone with all this nonsense about terrorists and and anthrax and color coded terror warnings, so they could get away with whatever they wanted without anyone ever noticing. And it made a great basis for what is to come, it gave american some sick twisted sense of patriotism that makes it ok for us to kill hundreds of thousands of people, and implanted americans with a hatred and fear of muslims and the middleeast. What is so impossible about bush perhaps being evil, look at political figures throughout history. Look at hitler, look at how he came to power, look at all the things he made people blindly do...were the germans all idiots, did they hate jews as well?
 

natrone23

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Who said they blew the demos at the exact point the plane hit, the demos were at key places throughout the building to make the building collapse . If the building started to collapse from fire damage 78 floors up or (or whatever floor it was on), dont you think it wouldve met with some resistance with all the remaining floors where most of the building shouldve been fine, they fell at freefall speed, like a demo.



FACT: Once each tower began to collapse, the weight of all the floors above the collapsed zone bore down with pulverizing force on the highest intact floor. Unable to absorb the massive energy, that floor would fail, transmitting the forces to the floor below, allowing the collapse to progress downward through the building in a chain reaction. Engineers call the process "pancaking," and it does not require an explosion to begin, according to David Biggs, a structural engineer at Ryan-Biggs Associates and a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) team that worked on the FEMA report.

Like all office buildings, the WTC towers contained a huge volume of air. As they pancaked, all that air — along with the concrete and other debris pulverized by the force of the collapse — was ejected with enormous energy. "When you have a significant portion of a floor collapsing, it's going to shoot air and concrete dust out the window," NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder tells PM. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled demolition, Sunder adds, "but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that perception."

Demolition expert Romero regrets that his comments to the Albuquerque Journal became fodder for conspiracy theorists. "I was misquoted in saying that I thought it was explosives that brought down the building," he tells PM. "I only said that that's what it looked like."

Romero, who agrees with the scientific conclusion that fire triggered the collapses, demanded a retraction from the Journal. It was printed Sept. 22, 2001. "I felt like my scientific reputation was on the line." But emperors-clothes.com saw something else: "The paymaster of Romero's research institute is the Pentagon. Directly or indirectly, pressure was brought to bear, forcing Romero to retract his original statement." Romero responds: "Conspiracy theorists came out saying that the government got to me. That is the farthest thing from the truth. This has been an albatross around my neck for three years."
 

hom36rown

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Who said they blew the demos at the exact point the plane hit, the demos were at key places throughout the building to make the building collapse . If the building started to collapse from fire damage 78 floors up or (or whatever floor it was on), dont you think it wouldve met with some resistance with all the remaining floors where most of the building shouldve been fine, they fell at freefall speed, like a demo.



FACT: Once each tower began to collapse, the weight of all the floors above the collapsed zone bore down with pulverizing force on the highest intact floor. Unable to absorb the massive energy, that floor would fail, transmitting the forces to the floor below, allowing the collapse to progress downward through the building in a chain reaction. Engineers call the process "pancaking," and it does not require an explosion to begin, according to David Biggs, a structural engineer at Ryan-Biggs Associates and a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) team that worked on the FEMA report.

Like all office buildings, the WTC towers contained a huge volume of air. As they pancaked, all that air — along with the concrete and other debris pulverized by the force of the collapse — was ejected with enormous energy. "When you have a significant portion of a floor collapsing, it's going to shoot air and concrete dust out the window," NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder tells PM. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled demolition, Sunder adds, "but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that perception."

Demolition expert Romero regrets that his comments to the Albuquerque Journal became fodder for conspiracy theorists. "I was misquoted in saying that I thought it was explosives that brought down the building," he tells PM. "I only said that that's what it looked like."

Romero, who agrees with the scientific conclusion that fire triggered the collapses, demanded a retraction from the Journal. It was printed Sept. 22, 2001. "I felt like my scientific reputation was on the line." But emperors-clothes.com saw something else: "The paymaster of Romero's research institute is the Pentagon. Directly or indirectly, pressure was brought to bear, forcing Romero to retract his original statement." Romero responds: "Conspiracy theorists came out saying that the government got to me. That is the farthest thing from the truth. This has been an albatross around my neck for three years."
that still doesnt answer why it met with no resistence and fell at freefall speed, but the fact is it really doesnt matter if the twin towers were demolished or not, it wouldnt really change anything...they couldve got the point across even if the building didnt collapse, perhaps that was just the icing on the cake for them...but I doubt it
 

We TaRdED

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that still doesnt answer why it met with no resistence and fell at freefall speed, but the fact is it really doesnt matter if the twin towers were demolished or not, it wouldnt really change anything...they couldve got the point across even if the building didnt collapse, perhaps that was just the icing on the cake for them...but I doubt it
well its funny that you say that "the icing on the cake" because the owners of the WTC building recently pre911 switched insurance companies and put a maximum terrorism payout policy on them just months b4 to 911!!!! FACT!!!

Debunking Popular Mechanics' 9/11 Lies

in regards to the latter part of the second vid clip, the guy from pop mechanics says that "of course cell phones work in planes" or something to that extent anyway.

has anyone on here tried to use place a call on a cell phone pre911? i myself have never flown and didnt have a cell phone back then anyways.
 

medicineman

New Member
This discussion is so old news, get over it. We all know whether the US government did it or not it was a gift to the Bush Regime to go for the throat of Iraq. They had been looking for any excuse and this was a good bait and switch opportunity. Turning Iraq into the culprits was a sly fiendish flip of the blame. I mean, after all, it could have been Iraqis instead of Saudis, in fact it could have been Eskimos for all we know. The oil in Iraqs domain was just sitting there waiting for some Super power to claim it and we called it ours. Go figure, Oilmen in the top 10 positions in the Bush government, yeah right, no matter who did the towers, Iraq had to go,
 

ZenMaster

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This discussion is so old news, get over it. We all know whether the US government did it or not it was a gift to the Bush Regime to go for the throat of Iraq. They had been looking for any excuse and this was a good bait and switch opportunity. Turning Iraq into the culprits was a sly fiendish flip of the blame. I mean, after all, it could have been Iraqis instead of Saudis, in fact it could have been Eskimos for all we know. The oil in Iraqs domain was just sitting there waiting for some Super power to claim it and we called it ours. Go figure, Oilmen in the top 10 positions in the Bush government, yeah right, no matter who did the towers, Iraq had to go,
You do know we haven't taken one drop of oil from Iraq, right?
 

medicineman

New Member
You do know we haven't taken one drop of oil from Iraq, right?
Just wait Zenman, why do you think we are still there. We are not there for the chump change oil that has been drilled already, that is something like 5% of the reserves. We are there for the big Banana, the reserves. BTW one of the main reason the reserves haven't been tapped by now is to hold down oil production, mandated by OPEC to keep prices up. This is about the future and Oil at 500.00 a barrel. Wake up! Do a little research into the history of Iraqi oil production!
 

We TaRdED

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Just wait Zenman, why do you think we are still there. We are not there for the chump change oil that has been drilled already, that is something like 5% of the reserves. We are there for the big Banana, the reserves. BTW one of the main reason the reserves haven't been tapped by now is to hold down oil production, mandated by OPEC to keep prices up. This is about the future and Oil at 500.00 a barrel. Wake up! Do a little research into the history of Iraqi oil production!
lol, that would equal like 20 US dollars a gal of gas..... lol

the only time i could afford to drive my car would be going to food shelters because i wouldnt be able to do anything else..... maybe i would have to walk there too and take a carriage with me.

when do you think this would happen med?
 

Joker52

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Yo, best movie ever! i think it's so straight u can download it free online. I gave it to my history teacher and a few other people. They all thought it was good. If anything at all, it gets you to think... ;)
 

medicineman

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lol, that would equal like 20 US dollars a gal of gas..... lol

the only time i could afford to drive my car would be going to food shelters because i wouldnt be able to do anything else..... maybe i would have to walk there too and take a carriage with me.

when do you think this would happen med?
I have no Idea, but if the elites and the oil Barons have their way, pretty soon. Think about it. If you were rich, whats 10.00 a gallon, chump change. It would definently thin the traffic for the elites. I guess they'd have to send out some form of transport to bring the workers to the businesses as they cartainly couldnt afford to drive. Yeah, OPEC has purposely held oil production in Iraq to a minimum, saving those reserves for Chevron, Shell, BP, Exxon, etc. When Oil hits the targeted price (I have no Idea what that is, but I'd bet it is north of 200.00 a barrel) they'll start the drilling and rape the Iraqis out of the lions share. Mark my words.+
 

AnitaNuggs

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the war the gas everything is connected... y dont we harvest our own gas? y dont we make all our cars vegetable burning? because they are making WAY too much money to switch right now.
 

We TaRdED

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the war the gas everything is connected... y dont we harvest our own gas? y dont we make all our cars vegetable burning? because they are making WAY too much money to switch right now.
exactly.... in this video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk&feature=related


the guy says that the aliens space craft technology could do away with the energy crisis we have. almost like we could harvest energy out of thin air or something... idk, but apparently we(the military) have anti-gravity and anti-inertia technology!!!!!!! also we apparently have flying saucers that are capable of moving at speeds faster than the speed of light!!!!!!!!!!!

if you watch the movie, start after 3 mins and go from there.
 

hom36rown

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I saw a hydrogen car in downtown the othere day( I know cause it said all over the car), only waste byproduct is water vapor!
 
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