A Newb Grow Journal

Looks to me like too much water in the rockwool nugs. I mean you have what looks like PM on some of the cubes. I'd continue to let them dry out and see if they recover. The burn is most likely from the Clonex solution. Try only water the next time around. Maybe start adding Cloex when they are good and rooted.

The new clones look fine. Once the roots start showing try opening the dome just slightly like I mentioned before. You know, slidding it off to the side a little. I don't think any off this is from the heat of 4 T5's.

The moms look fine to. Just stretching themselves out. That yellowing on the ones leaves might be from spraying them while they are under the light. I'll go through the pics a little more later but for now just let everything bee and see if they make a comeback.

thanks phil. anyone else have any ideas as to what i am doing wrong?

Looks like they need to be in a humid dome and water the r/w less! Just dam not soaked.
Use house and gardens root excel at .5 ml per gal and 15 ml of thrive alive per gal.

hellraizer30 said:

Looks like they need to be in a humid dome and water the r/w less! Just dam not soaked.
Use house and gardens root excel at .5 ml per gal and 15 ml of thrive alive per gal.

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hey bro whats up?
i havent got banned yet
thats a good thing huh?

Anti-wilt by vita grow, stops transpiration while rooting by clogging stomata . I tried it for the first time today. I'm sold.

hellraizer30 said:

Looks like they need to be in a humid dome and water the r/w less! Just dam not soaked.
Use house and gardens root excel at .5 ml per gal and 15 ml of thrive alive per gal.

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hey guys. that's what has me confused though is that they started yellowing under the dome. plus, i haven't watered anyof them since then. the ones i transplanted got rockwool blocks that were moist. i'm lost. plus i was feeding them like 150ppm clones cloning solution. isn't that basically the same as the other things? root/clone nutes?

nuglets said:

hey guys. that's what has me confused though is that they started yellowing under the dome. plus, i haven't watered anyof them since then. the ones i transplanted got rockwool blocks that were moist. i'm lost. plus i was feeding them like 150ppm clones cloning solution. isn't that basically the same as the other things? root/clone nutes?

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idk i use cheap root powder and rockwool and diy dome and get about 10-11 make it out of 12
and i use just plain well water ph of 6
i lower ph when conditioning the wool to 5-5.5 ph and after that only water they get is spray mist of 6 ph well water

nuglets said:

hey guys. that's what has me confused though is that they started yellowing under the dome. plus, i haven't watered anyof them since then. the ones i transplanted got rockwool blocks that were moist. i'm lost. plus i was feeding them like 150ppm clones cloning solution. isn't that basically the same as the other things? root/clone nutes?

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No its not nuglets if there rooted then i like to use a 1:1:1 ratio of AN three part mix it to 150ppm and use the root excel
And the thrive, without root i use just roots and thrive.

And i never see yellow, as for wilting either raise room rh or put them back under a dome for a bit

For rooting i use clonex then dip in hormex powder then stickem in pre soaked rw cube .

Reason for using power is its got a higher acid content that eats away the membrain
And allows faster rooting.

To pre soak use 15ml of thrive per gal and set ph to 5.5 and soak for 20min

thanks for all the input guys. hellraizer, which thrive alive, the red or the green? i have the green one already.

Hey nuglets the green one organic but will work the same! I pm you to use the red but i didnt know you had green,
Disregrard that pm and use the green same mix levels

I use stimroot #2 rooting powder. Whatever rooting harmone that you choose to use make sure it is designed for semi-hardwood.

I grow in coco so I feel a bit out of my element in this thread... That being said..
Why are you letting the clones go so long without transplanting? I wasn't paying attention to post dates but it seems like they've been in that tray forever.
I use a diy aero cloner with no dome and clones are usually ready to go in 5-10 days.
You are obviously getting roots.

VERY very nice supplies and setup man!

Im in soil so its a bit different for me but when I have roots I transplant them to keep them from yellowing. My soil has nutes in it so as soon as they are transplanted they are getting food. My friend likes to wait for a lot of roots to come out before he transplants but his clones always yellow in the process. I on the other hand transplant as soon as I see roots and rarely see yellowing. Also I don't think clonex solution is anything but rooting hormone in which case they aren't getting any food so they probably need to be fed. 1 more thing, once they have roots I have found that the humid dome is actually a hindrance to growth because they do not exchange air enough.

I put my clones straight into bud as soon as they are rooted. I accomodate them under the 1kw/hps by giving them extra watering until they tap into the bed. I spray the water into the cube and not on the clone. Remember, I am in rock and it's different than soil.

hellraizer30 said:

Hey nuglets the green one organic but will work the same! I pm you to use the red but i didnt know you had green,
Disregrard that pm and use the green same mix levels

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thanks hellraizer. i appreciate the help. gonna try it without the superthrive and the hormex. i don't have those right now. using clonex rooting gel.

MonkE said:

I grow in coco so I feel a bit out of my element in this thread... That being said..
Why are you letting the clones go so long without transplanting? I wasn't paying attention to post dates but it seems like they've been in that tray forever.
I use a diy aero cloner with no dome and clones are usually ready to go in 5-10 days.
You are obviously getting roots.

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i think maybe you skipped a few posts. i took clones and had them under the dome for a week. everything was going great till a day or two before i took the dome off and they just started to yellow and wilt. then i took new clones. those are probably the ones you see. i transplanted most of the weak ones and then put some of them back under the dome but they are still struggling.

KrAzEo said:

VERY very nice supplies and setup man!

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thanks man. just goes to show you though that the room is only a small part of the process.

NickNasty said:

Im in soil so its a bit different for me but when I have roots I transplant them to keep them from yellowing. My soil has nutes in it so as soon as they are transplanted they are getting food. My friend likes to wait for a lot of roots to come out before he transplants but his clones always yellow in the process. I on the other hand transplant as soon as I see roots and rarely see yellowing. Also I don't think clonex solution is anything but rooting hormone in which case they aren't getting any food so they probably need to be fed. 1 more thing, once they have roots I have found that the humid dome is actually a hindrance to growth because they do not exchange air enough.

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this is my plan going forward. to start moving the dome off as soon as i see roots. i have been feeding them clonex and soaking the rockwool in it but now i am going to try hellraizers formula with thrive alive and the clonex together maybe. just gonna keep testing out different ideas till i get it right.

bird mcbride said:

I put my clones straight into bud as soon as they are rooted. I accomodate them under the 1kw/hps by giving them extra watering until they tap into the bed. I spray the water into the cube and not on the clone. Remember, I am in rock and it's different than soil.

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i'm gonna be moving my clones to the 4" blocks from now on as soon as i see roots. i want to veg them longer and do some lst before putting them to flower.

Hey nug use a dome and a heat matt! And when you water fill the lower tray 1/2 in deep, then set the upper tray with the
Cubes in it in and let the r/w wik then dump the excess out.

Ha.. That would explain it.
My attention must have been diminished at the time.. Pretty common excuse around here though

What's stopping u from running a quick and easy DIY aero cloner?

With the rockwool I would personally transplant and start giving extremely weak nutes as soon as I saw a root.

hey guys, back with an update.

so, i haven't been able to get the mold under control. i opened the vents a little but when i have the dome on the little white patches seem to pop up. so, i took the dome off last night in hope of drying them out a little. the hydroton i put in the tray is was getting mold as well. i'm not sure what's going on but i am determined to bring these guys back to life. the first two are pics of the plants i transplanted to 4" rockwool blocks. then there is a picture of the newer clones i took 5 days ago. still no rrots on these. the last picture is the 3 clones i didn't transplant and left under the dome.




here are some pics of my moms. i am noticing that they are starting to yellow a little in the margins. first only 1 plant had it now 3 of the 4 seemed to be affected. could this be a nutrient problem? i fed them only water last time.