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svchop889 said:
For gods sake hormones are not unnatural dude.
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Oh yes they are, caveat emptor. Any time you fool around with mama nature's own hormonal processes you're bound to have unpredictable or unfavorable results. I've seen it time and time again over the years, every new crop of newbies wants to push their plants with crap rather than growing them naturally.

See my avatar? That is a 5" wide cola, dense and hard as brick grown with nothing more than a HID and cheap fertilizer purchased at Walmart.

UB
 
SouthSideNuggs said:
I have used the Humboldt roots and have had great results.
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And just how wonderful were they? :?


Were they this wonderful?

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No? Perhaps this wonderful?

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Closest I come to hormones is the leftover tricontanol in rabbit poop. only products I've continued use are Espoma bio-tone plus, and Espoma Plant-tone, organic nutrients enhanced with mycorhizae and other beneficial bacteria. I clone in a soil perlite mixture just adding water.

Oh and forgive me for being unspecific about the hormones I thought it was known previously that the unaltered hormones derived from plants where natural, but I guess there is an unnatural application for just about everything.
 
Uncle Ben said:
That is a 5" wide cola, dense and hard as brick grown with nothing more than a HID and cheap fertilizer purchased at Walmart.

UB
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Really? What did you use for soil? You have to consider the medium I would think. There was a guy echoing you stating "nothing but cheap ferts" using Jack's in his soil grow. Found out he was using FF Froggy, very pricey. I find after doing the math that coco/hydroton with GH is as cheap, if not cheaper than soil grows. Love your techniques UB, especially topping. Tok onbongsmilie
 
patlpp said:
Really? What did you use for soil? You have to consider the medium I would think. There was a guy echoing you stating "nothing but cheap ferts" using Jack's in his soil grow. Found out he was using FF Froggy, very pricey. I find after doing the math that coco/hydroton with GH is as cheap, if not cheaper than soil grows. Love your techniques UB, especially topping. Tok onbongsmilie
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I throw alot of crap together, seriously. I don't get worked up about it and sure as hell aint gonna take the time or money to buy Fox Farms. If my pile of crap in the field or Walmart doesn't have it........

Triacontanol is in rabbit poop? Alfalfa meal contains it.
 
svchop889 said:
yes residual amounts. they dont digest much of it and there food contains a good quanity of it. considering what its made of.
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I would think the NPK value of rabbit poop would be most important. Don't know anything about its nutritional value, do know that the following manures are great organic foods if composted - horse, cattle, turkey, chicken.
 
Uncle Ben said:
I would think the NPK value of rabbit poop would be most important. Don't know anything about its nutritional value, do know that the following manures are great organic foods if composted - horse, cattle, turkey, chicken.
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yeah I grow organic, add lama and alpaca to the list though, and don't forget the bat guano's. but rabbit poo is supposed to top them all. its mild and you can almost use it fresh. the analyzed npk is on here somewhere I don't remember the numbers though. I do a search and report back.
 
N-P-K of rabbit poo is 2.4 - 1.4 - 0.6
I googled it. but as long as it has not been urinated on its safe to use fresh.
 
Well folks after reading all twenty pages then watching the video (I wanted to see what people were saying first before I read through the whole thread with a biased opinion) I have decided for myself that..IN MY OPINION..this is crap. I gotta admit though..he almost had me when he told me that I was a "client" and not just some other "customer". " Ya really mean it big mike?!?!:-P ah gee whiz I feel special." Psh, save it. First off both of these products are way overpriced. I'm really suprised that some of you can't see right through him (I know I mean it's tough..he's huge). You really think that he is pulling his product and putting his "scientists in the lab" to work all because a competitor has a better product? Hey maybe! But I really doubt it. I see it as a great marketing plan so that when his "scientists" come out with their new product they will make a killing off it because their "new and improved" crap is now the best on the market again. Call me cynical or a conspiracy theorist but honestly everyone is out for the same thing...MONEY! Don't kid yourself..its all we are here for. That and spreading our seed..but hey I digress. Bottom line, Big Mike would have done a better job making a video trying to convince me that he's not fat. But all fat jokes aside..In my opinion, this is a marketing scheme so I say save your money folks!
 
Vtec9010 said:
Well folks after reading all twenty pages then watching the video (I wanted to see what people were saying first before I read through the whole thread with a biased opinion) I have decided for myself that..IN MY OPINION..this is crap. I gotta admit though..he almost had me when he told me that I was a "client" and not just some other "customer". " Ya really mean it big mike?!?!:-P ah gee whiz I feel special." Psh, save it. First off both of these products are way overpriced. I'm really suprised that some of you can't see right through him (I know I mean it's tough..he's huge). You really think that he is pulling his product and putting his "scientists in the lab" to work all because a competitor has a better product? Hey maybe! But I really doubt it. I see it as a great marketing plan so that when his "scientists" come out with their new product they will make a killing off it because their "new and improved" crap is now the best on the market again. Call me cynical or a conspiracy theorist but honestly everyone is out for the same thing...MONEY! Don't kid yourself..its all we are here for. That and spreading our seed..but hey I digress. Bottom line, Big Mike would have done a better job making a video trying to convince me that he's not fat. But all fat jokes aside..In my opinion, this is a marketing scheme so I say save your money folks!
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Mate at the end of the day, the only one thing that truly matters is that the end user of the product believes that he/she gets what they pay for. Thats why they (as well as myself) pay so much. It might cost a lot and in your eyes as well as many others AN just isn't a good product and not worth the money. I dont however use either of the products in the video so i could care less which of the 2 is the better, and yes he might be trying to push the products or in his other videos his own products but guess what? Thats how he made millions last year, and to the buyers its a fantastic product to boot. I'm not you, your not me, he likes monkies and she like apple pie, that guy over there hates pie as well as the money that dude likes and the chic with the pie hates potatoes (you see what i'm saying?) Its going to go on and on and on and on and on and on just using different words but yet a lot of people fail to realize that......:wall:
 
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