ChesusRice
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I still cant figure out this white pride thing if all the racists deny that they are racist.
Amnesty Bill Pitched as Jobs and growth?? LOL dont make me laugh so hard.
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I still cant figure out this white pride thing if all the racists deny that they are racist.
Sand4x105
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Today the news was an Aerospace Electronics and guidance system maker in my area was closing in 2015 and moving to Mexico [TJ]...
Think again... about taking away shitty jobs...
The company after getting many tax breaks to build a plant here, they can "no longer" be profitable to their shareholders...
So gone to Mex... what effect will it have on me... prob nothing... just sux to be a smart employed engineer in this area....
NLXSK1
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You keep attempting to create strawmen by ascribing things to me that are simply not true.
My last boss was hispanic, his wife was hispanic and shockingly so were his kids. Why does the color of his skin matter again?? I make arguments about illegal versus legal immigration, how our government has completely dropped the ball and indeed created this very problem that continues decade after decade. And you want to call me a racist.
I guess if we make 10 million people and 20 million family members legal this issue would disappear right? I mean just like Regan did... Oh wait... Shit...
Do you know what the definition of insanity is??
UncleBuck
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ChesusRice
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UncleBuck
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ChesusRice
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You're so racist you think all hispanics are illegal
How the fuck else you coming up with 30 million illegals?
UncleBuck
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People COULD just make that stuff here, and not pay any tariff at all, but then that would create jobs for people who live here while buying shit from China does not. People might expect you to have an actual job and pay your taxes so I can see why you don't like that idea.
ChesusRice
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Of course then They would enact Tariffs and not buy our stuff
So our companys would move overseas and we could enjoy an economy on par with iceland
What stuff of ours would they quit buying? Manufacturing exports in the USA are the lowest of ALL the major countries in the world. We export half as much as the next guy. Most of what production we do export is planes trains and automobiles.
FWIW Iceland has a better economy than the US. Less than 5% unemployment and GDP growth is over 6%. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/iceland/gdp-growth
http://www.forbes.com/sites/traceyg...ilized-economy-is-a-surprising-success-story/
Dr Kynes
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the Pew research group estimates 11.7 million illegals in the US right now. if they became legal they could import their families, and with just 1 spouse and 1 kid, BAM!! 31.5 million people now in this country thanks to amnesty (which you dont support, while championing it, and accusing others of racism...)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/u...hows-signs-of-growth-estimates-show.html?_r=0
and now you can accuse me of being racist too.
enjoy the warm fuzzy feeling of moral superiority it gives you, youre still a dullard.
UncleBuck
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nice try at coming to the rescue of a fellow racist, but your racist buddy said that there are already 30 million here.
your bizarre conspiracy is just that.
and we have no need to accuse you of being racist, you've made that case all by yourself already.
Dr Kynes
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and then you spun out of control, hit the wall, burst into flames and died in a fiery wreck of fail.
tarrifs work.
they work every time.
if you put a tarrif on imported textiles, OUR people can make the textiles competitively, instead of shipping all our currency to china.
if china puts tit for tat tarrifs on the products we sell to them, it wont do shit. china doesnt buy much of anything from the US or europe except luxury cars for the party apparatchiks, and they cant make those in china.
thats where the INNOVATION MODEL bucky doesnt believe in comes into play.
we sell shit they cannot make, like computer chips, wheat, automobiles that dont fall apart, etc etc etc.
the only reason the chinese can make computer chips now is cuz OUR industries have fled the regulatory and tax burdens in the US to garner more profit in the third world's cheap and permissive labour market. without our expertise the chinese couldnt manufacture shit.
hell they even import steel and coal from the US to make their industries work, they NEED us and our resources, our companies merely enjoy their zero-regulation atmosphere, and slave wages.
tarrifs on imports would bring industry innovation, and freedom back to this country, and set us back on the road to prosperity.
"Free Trade" is a recipe for disaster.
UncleBuck
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there is so much wrong with that, it's useless to even point them out since one falsehood is stacked on top of another.
import tariffs are not a magic wand, they are a regressive tax on the poor and middle class.
amazing how i don't need to write several pages of lies and catchphrases to say it either.
import tariffs are not a magic wand, they are a regressive tax on the poor and middle class.
amazing how i don't need to write several pages of lies and catchphrases to say it either.
Dr Kynes
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ChesusRice
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Same web site
Exports in the United States increased to 194857 USD Million in November of 2013 from 193136 USD Million in October of 2013. Exports in the United States is reported by the U.S. Census Bureau. Exports in the United States averaged 105518.32 USD Million from 1992 until 2013, reaching an all time high of 194857 USD Million in November of 2013 and a record low of 50044 USD Million in May of 1992. United States is the world's third largest exporter. Main exports are: Industrial Supplies (34 percent of total exports) and Capital Goods (33 percent). Foods, feeds, and beverages account for 9 percent; Automotive vehicles, parts, and engines for another 9 percent and Consumer goods for 12 percent. Main exports partners are: Canada (19 percent of total exports), European Union (17 percent), Mexico (14 percent), China (7 percent) and Japan (5 percent). This page contains - United States Exports - actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news. 2014-02-01
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/exports
My first "real" job was with my father-in-law who owned a masonry company.
I started out as a laborer. After a few years of laboring I started up my apprenticeship.
Work was really busy throughout our area. A masonry apprenticeship is a 4 year apprenticeship.
Around my 2nd year of my apprenticeship, the illegals started moving in, I suppose the news of work had finally reached them.
My 3rd year apprenticeship I was making 23.78 an hour. I finished up my 4th year apprenticeship and the pay had dropped down to 18 an hour. I started working as a full-fledge Bricklayer at 16 an hour. Within 2 years the average pay was 14 an hour.
Hey thanks illegals for coming in and DESTROYING my trade.
As far as I am concerned, all illegals can fall over and die a horrible death and I would watch gleefully.
I will oppose amnesty for the roach eating bastards til my last breath.
I started out as a laborer. After a few years of laboring I started up my apprenticeship.
Work was really busy throughout our area. A masonry apprenticeship is a 4 year apprenticeship.
Around my 2nd year of my apprenticeship, the illegals started moving in, I suppose the news of work had finally reached them.
My 3rd year apprenticeship I was making 23.78 an hour. I finished up my 4th year apprenticeship and the pay had dropped down to 18 an hour. I started working as a full-fledge Bricklayer at 16 an hour. Within 2 years the average pay was 14 an hour.
Hey thanks illegals for coming in and DESTROYING my trade.
As far as I am concerned, all illegals can fall over and die a horrible death and I would watch gleefully.
I will oppose amnesty for the roach eating bastards til my last breath.
ChesusRice
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So if they were legal. What advantages would they have?