best temp n humidity for drying / curing ???

*** River Rat ***

Active Member
If you hang the entire plant...I doubt 2 days at those figures would hurt much. There is plenty of moisture in the stems..leaves and buds so I think you're all set. Seems you have 68° and 53rh in a room. That would be perfectly fine ! Nice job !
A 5' plant....you're gonna have sore hands after that trim ! Lol.
You are under control ...great work....keep notes.
Peace.
 

Seymour Green

Well-Known Member
If you hang the entire plant...I doubt 2 days at those figures would hurt much. There is plenty of moisture in the stems..leaves and buds so I think you're all set. Seems you have 68° and 53rh in a room. That would be perfectly fine ! Nice job !
A 5' plant....you're gonna have sore hands after that trim ! Lol.
You are under control ...great work....keep notes.
Peace.
Thanks River Rat! That makes me feel a whole lot better. And I'm trying to bribe a friend with a couple buds to help me trim lol!
 

52darth69

Member
... If terpenes begin to evaporate at 70°, why would anyone want to dry or cure cannabis at temperatures in excess of 70°? .... To facilitate a slower, easier to control cure I would think 60° / 60% would be ideal
 

LinguaPeel

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... If terpenes begin to evaporate at 70°, why would anyone want to dry or cure cannabis at temperatures in excess of 70°? .... To facilitate a slower, easier to control cure I would think 60° / 60% would be ideal
Starches n stuff break down faster. Ever been to the south? East coast? There's a reason strains like ECSD are noteworthy from these climates. Because the humidity is high. We still stink up the neighborhood with a zip like the near mythical skunk that the west coast evolved out of existence by replacing weed exudates with beet exudates. Same strains in Colorado or LA can't even stink past the bag they're in, even when grown right.

Everyone growing hydro wants to control their climate, and preserve the minimal terps that are there and already flashing off. Growing natural/probiotic like we do in the south, the crops been building up huge levels of unconverted substances the entire grow, along with the reinforcements to hold them from flashing, and the humidity must be what makes it obvious why a slow cure between 70-80° (and high humidity) creates dank: increased conversion into desired metabolites through microbial activity.

But you know, the same body of science that states there are no strains also has no understanding of microbes working in the plant, nor do they grasp how lactic acid cuts fertilizer needs to nearly nothing, so it makes perfect sense to listen to that train of thought, right! All that yield based research with no regard for secondary metabolism.

I've resurrected a lot of "hay" from inexperienced growers. Once you see enough weed converted from hay smell and dirt flavor into the Pink Panties, Gorilla Glue or whatever it was meant to be, all notion of "preserving da terps" goes out the window.

Anyone who's had dirt/hay weed turn into something amazing after getting the dry back on cycle, should be able to tell whats going on. And like I said. With shitty hydrostore mersh garbage, there is nothing left to convert. Why anyone thinks they can grow novelty weed and expect to have dank that can be cured to a solid sticky loud bud is beyond me. You might as well freezedry the starchless sugarless fatless oilless artificially scented (puke!) hydro crap before it turns from Miracle-Gro reggie into Miracle-Gro straw.
 
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Miyagismokes

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Starches n stuff break down faster. Ever been to the south? East coast? There's a reason strains like ECSD are noteworthy from these climates. Because the humidity is high. We still stink up the neighborhood with a zip like the near mythical skunk that the west coast evolved out of existence by replacing weed exudates with beet exudates. Same strains in Colorado or LA can't even stink past the bag they're in, even when grown right.

Everyone growing hydro wants to control their climate, and preserve the minimal terps that are there and already flashing off. Growing natural/probiotic like we do in the south, the crops been building up huge levels of unconverted substances the entire grow, along with the reinforcements to hold them from flashing, and the humidity must be what makes it obvious why a slow cure between 70-80° (and high humidity) creates dank: increased conversion into desired metabolites through microbial activity.

But you know, the same body of science that states there are no strains also has no understanding of microbes working in the plant, nor do they grasp how lactic acid cuts fertilizer needs to nearly nothing, so it makes perfect sense to listen to that train of thought, right! All that yield based research with no regard for secondary metabolism.

I've resurrected a lot of "hay" from inexperienced growers. Once you see enough weed converted from hay smell and dirt flavor into the Pink Panties, Gorilla Glue or whatever it was meant to be, all notion of "preserving da terps" goes out the window.

Anyone who's had dirt/hay weed turn into something amazing after getting the dry back on cycle, should be able to tell whats going on. And like I said. With shitty hydrostore mersh garbage, there is nothing left to convert. Why anyone thinks they can grow novelty weed and expect to have dank that can be cured to a solid sticky loud bud is beyond me. You might as well freezedry the starchless sugarless fatless oilless artificially scented (puke!) hydro crap before it turns from Miracle-Gro reggie into Miracle-Gro straw.
There's some vitriol there for Cali, hydro, and grow stores in that post. Just a little.
bongsmilie
 

Seymour Green

Well-Known Member
Starches n stuff break down faster. Ever been to the south? East coast? There's a reason strains like ECSD are noteworthy from these climates. Because the humidity is high. We still stink up the neighborhood with a zip like the near mythical skunk that the west coast evolved out of existence by replacing weed exudates with beet exudates. Same strains in Colorado or LA can't even stink past the bag they're in, even when grown right.

Everyone growing hydro wants to control their climate, and preserve the minimal terps that are there and already flashing off. Growing natural/probiotic like we do in the south, the crops been building up huge levels of unconverted substances the entire grow, along with the reinforcements to hold them from flashing, and the humidity must be what makes it obvious why a slow cure between 70-80° (and high humidity) creates dank: increased conversion into desired metabolites through microbial activity.

But you know, the same body of science that states there are no strains also has no understanding of microbes working in the plant, nor do they grasp how lactic acid cuts fertilizer needs to nearly nothing, so it makes perfect sense to listen to that train of thought, right! All that yield based research with no regard for secondary metabolism.

I've resurrected a lot of "hay" from inexperienced growers. Once you see enough weed converted from hay smell and dirt flavor into the Pink Panties, Gorilla Glue or whatever it was meant to be, all notion of "preserving da terps" goes out the window.

Anyone who's had dirt/hay weed turn into something amazing after getting the dry back on cycle, should be able to tell whats going on. And like I said. With shitty hydrostore mersh garbage, there is nothing left to convert. Why anyone thinks they can grow novelty weed and expect to have dank that can be cured to a solid sticky loud bud is beyond me. You might as well freezedry the starchless sugarless fatless oilless artificially scented (puke!) hydro crap before it turns from Miracle-Gro reggie into Miracle-Gro straw.
Can you please elaborate on your tech? I'm on the east coast, and have been having a hell of a time, even with 68°f and 53%rh. Stuff still coming out kind of tasteless. I had a friend build a climate controlled dry room to emulate what the jungle boys where doing. Had it set to 65° and 60 rh and started developing mold after 2 days. Bumped it up to 70°, but kept rh between 60-65% and still developed mold. Any help is appreciated, was growing my liberty haze since march and just picked a month ago after 18 weeks from the flip, and it tastes like shit after curing almost 3 weeks.
 

SPLFreak808

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Can you please elaborate on your tech? I'm on the east coast, and have been having a hell of a time, even with 68°f and 53%rh. Stuff still coming out kind of tasteless. I had a friend build a climate controlled dry room to emulate what the jungle boys where doing. Had it set to 65° and 60 rh and started developing mold after 2 days. Bumped it up to 70°, but kept rh between 60-65% and still developed mold. Any help is appreciated, was growing my liberty haze since march and just picked a month ago after 18 weeks from the flip, and it tastes like shit after curing almost 3 weeks.
If your loosing flavor over time you might just have a spore contaminated flowering/drying area, if it taste like crap from the get go you could also be pulling too early. I dry in a 65/50 room, i find it extremely important to keep clean during the end of the cycle & drying along with trying my best to keep outside air from entering the room.

My bet is you need to de-contaminate, haze rotting in 2 days at 60-65rh is a bit of a giveaway.
 

Seymour Green

Well-Known Member
If your loosing flavor over time you might just have a spore contaminated flowering/drying area, if it taste like crap from the get go you could also be pulling too early. I dry in a 65/50 room, i find it extremely important to keep clean during the end of the cycle & drying along with trying my best to keep outside air from entering the room.

My bet is you need to de-contaminate, haze rotting in 2 days at 60-65rh is a bit of a giveaway.
Thanks for this. I'll clean my dry area to make sure, but my friend was having the mold issues with the colder temps, my problem is just a lack of flavor i general, and i was drying at 68°f and 53%rh. I dont think I chopped early, as she was flowering 18 weeks from flip. Has kind of a grassy smell except when ground up it smells nice and lemony. Could be the mold thing though, as I did cut a small piece out of a dense bud before I hung to dry. Anyway the help is greatly appreciated.
 

52darth69

Member
Starches n stuff break down faster. Ever been to the south? East coast? There's a reason strains like ECSD are noteworthy from these climates. Because the humidity is high. We still stink up the neighborhood with a zip like the near mythical skunk that the west coast evolved out of existence by replacing weed exudates with beet exudates. Same strains in Colorado or LA can't even stink past the bag they're in, even when grown right.

Everyone growing hydro wants to control their climate, and preserve the minimal terps that are there and already flashing off. Growing natural/probiotic like we do in the south, the crops been building up huge levels of unconverted substances the entire grow, along with the reinforcements to hold them from flashing, and the humidity must be what makes it obvious why a slow cure between 70-80° (and high humidity) creates dank: increased conversion into desired metabolites through microbial activity.

But you know, the same body of science that states there are no strains also has no understanding of microbes working in the plant, nor do they grasp how lactic acid cuts fertilizer needs to nearly nothing, so it makes perfect sense to listen to that train of thought, right! All that yield based research with no regard for secondary metabolism.

I've resurrected a lot of "hay" from inexperienced growers. Once you see enough weed converted from hay smell and dirt flavor into the Pink Panties, Gorilla Glue or whatever it was meant to be, all notion of "preserving da terps" goes out the window.

Anyone who's had dirt/hay weed turn into something amazing after getting the dry back on cycle, should be able to tell whats going on. And like I said. With shitty hydrostore mersh garbage, there is nothing left to convert. Why anyone thinks they can grow novelty weed and expect to have dank that can be cured to a solid sticky loud bud is beyond me. You might as well freezedry the starchless sugarless fatless oilless artificially scented (puke!) hydro crap before it turns from Miracle-Gro reggie into Miracle-Gro straw.
Thanks much for the comprehensive reply. I am in soil not hydro. First Grow and simply trying to avoid as many rookie mistakes as possible. Am I reading you correctly when you say you recommend 70 to 80 degrees and "high" humidity? When you say "high", what kind of RH number are we talking here? Do you have to do take extra precautions against mold or rot? Increased airflow? Extra ventilation? Or?..... I live in the pacific northwest so keeping the humidity high isn't a problem. Just looking for a little guidance so I can at least minimize my chances of messing up what appears to be a half decent first effort. Plants are a week from harvest and are currently at 78° and 40% RH

Your expertise is greatly appreciated and any and all tips are most welcome.
 
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5h4vvn

Member
Hey guys lots of great info here. Special thanks to Captain Greenbeard for pointing out the obvious, yet all too often overlooked fact that humidity is relative. Delta1+8 I completely agree with everything you stated, well said my friend. it is so easy to misinterpret someones intentions with a post when there is no body language associated with it to guide your reaction. For me that is the worst part of public forums such as these. Anyways I digress.

I've read this entire thread because I need to improve my drying/curing method. I've learned several things here that I will employ next go round in hopes of better results. It did get me to wondering however if there is a way to maybe wick the jars somehow to let the moisture still escape without having to burp them daily for curing. Or possibly even a filter that only lets air pass one way? Just kind of wondering out loud.

Thanks again everyone and hope you all have a great day!!


Hey! I wonder if anybody has tried house wrap or tyveck on the Mason jars (to replace the metal lids). It perhaps would allow the water to escape slowly in the form of vapor. Its hard to say, but it theoretically allows water vapor to escape on only one side of the building wrap, and not allow water to percolate back in, in all its forms....just curious if anybody has ever attempted this instead of the burping process. Cheers
 

Growin4fun77

Active Member
Stickies aren't dogma, stop treating them as such. They provide a solid guideline, and that's about it. Every grower's environment is different. Many variables dictate how and for how long the final product should be dried/cured. Any "sticky" that prescribes rigid numbers fails to take these variables into account.

Also, keep in mind, many personal/hobby growers don't have the luxury of temp/humidity controlled drying rooms etc. So, it is a good idea to leave plants whole (in drier environments) for a nice, slow and even dry.

And please, don't give me the 'trimming dry is a PITA' spiel. It really isn't...

I love this advice. My feedback would be to review and collect as much feedback as possible and then adjust that to your environment. Sometimes your adjustments will be perfect and other times you’ll end up with issues. Every mistake is a learning opportunity.

I personally aim for 65%ish and <70deg. Hand the whole plant with all the sugar leaves. Dries in 8-9 days.
 

kenmastazz

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jungle boys drying room: 60%/60f

the biggest struggle for me is every dehumidifier I used produced a lot of heat so its a balancing act between humidity and heat specially if the room is small.
 

Dreaming1

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I harvested some outdoor herb and hung it up. I dropped a branch with a nice top bud. Missed it when I took it all inside. So, it dried outdoors in almost freezing point temps on the ground. I saw it about 3 days later and checked it out. It was brownish and bone crumbling dry. I loaded a bong and gave it a rip. Incredibly smooth. Same from a pipe. Nice mellowed flavor. I was surprised. Is that the best? Obviously not. But, it all worked out fine.
 
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