BooMer's 5000w Medical Hydro Cannabis Laboratory w/ C02 Generator & ScrOG

BooMeR242

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So ive decided to ditch the current sour grape mothers in soilless mix and picked up an 8 bucket drip system with recirculating feed. its by general hydro. the medium will be peat pellets. for now i have the mothers crammed in under the 1000w lamp but i guess ill toss em tomorrow. sad to get rid of em but its part of progress.

So today i was stoked to pick up the last four cuttings of Master x Bubba Kush. been lookin for a while and i picked up an eigth to sample it out. smoked it and burns smooth great flaver. im feelin out the high right now but its doin the job 8)

i took a pic of the ample kinda hard to see the real colors since the flash needed to be on, but its dense as shit. the 4 clones i got of the master bubba kush are just finisihing rooting and look great. post a pic of that as well.

The new Scion system;
drip recirculating feed individual bucket system with float valve and rez.
peat pellet medium.
I will transplant 4 Master x Bubba Kush and 4 Sour grape clones into the buckets and FIM them at 12" i will wait 8 weeks or maybe before to take any cuttings from them.
for support im considering tomatoe trellis when they start to get heigth and gurth.


The last round of sour grape cuttings i took are doin ok. ive been battling temps and diff methods of venting and cooling to find the best method.

I FIMmed the vegging clones on the 4x4 table and they seem to be doin fine after 24hours. i had given them a feeding before and after with superthrive to help with shock.

my dad swung by today and finished hooking up the AC unit. test ran it with the remote and cooled down the room quick. so glad its up and running first try. im just about finished with all my plumbing and electrical down in the garage so ill put a video toghether showing u guys in great detail what we rigged up to make it work;
24,000btu 2ton Split AC unit with condensor placed outside the garage with hosing ran to the room.
Subpanel breaker box in the garage with romex running up to the rooms to3 diff outlet power boxes designed for 120v and 240v.
Reverse osmosis system connected to house plumbing and drips into the 200 gallon RO rez tank.
Also show the submesrible pump that pumps the RO water in the 200gall rez up to both growrooms to the 3 seperate rez tanks ready to feed the pants.



think thats it for now so heres the pix






FIM










Master x Bubba Kush cuttings






rooting sour grape cuttings






new scion hydro buckets on the right under the turned off 400w lamp.
the old SG mothers have been moved away to clear room






sample of the Master Bubba Kush

 
hey man +rep. this is going to be amazing when its all up and running. looks like all of your hard work is about to pay off. one day i hope to be in your position!
 

greenthumb111

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hey man +rep. this is going to be amazing when its all up and running. looks like all of your hard work is about to pay off. one day i hope to be in your position!
Looking good Boomer. If your room temps are a prob you should address the source. Your lights are sealed and you should pull air through the light from the room so you get air conditioned air over the lights. You can also cool the air coming out of the light with an icebox before the air goes into the carbon filter. With this air rotation the lights should be cool enough to touch the hoods.

The second thing you can try is a chiller for the reservoirs. See SOGS setup as he has diffusiers setup in each res and all are plumbed to one chiller. You can also insulate your res' to help keep them cool and keep the light off them.

I would not use outside air except to flush circulate during dark periods. This assumes you are still doing sealed CO2 which allows you to have higher canopy temps ~80. With the above setup your res' will be much cooler.

GT
 

BooMeR242

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hey man +rep. this is going to be amazing when its all up and running. looks like all of your hard work is about to pay off. one day i hope to be in your position!
thanks man glad u could stop by and for the rep


Looking good Boomer. If your room temps are a prob you should address the source. Your lights are sealed and you should pull air through the light from the room so you get air conditioned air over the lights. You can also cool the air coming out of the light with an icebox before the air goes into the carbon filter. With this air rotation the lights should be cool enough to touch the hoods.

The second thing you can try is a chiller for the reservoirs. See SOGS setup as he has diffusiers setup in each res and all are plumbed to one chiller. You can also insulate your res' to help keep them cool and keep the light off them.

I would not use outside air except to flush circulate during dark periods. This assumes you are still doing sealed CO2 which allows you to have higher canopy temps ~80. With the above setup your res' will be much cooler.

GT


the room in the update above is the Veg room which is not running c02.
my rez temps are 68 usually. i run a 10,000btu portable unit 24/7 and the lights are air cooled and sealed with the fan intake and exhausting back outside. i decided against chillers and iceboxes due to waste of money in my opinion between $2000 chillers and the extra elect requirement and billing and the iceboxes and extra plumbing needs. thats why i picked up a 2ton split AC unit for the flower room. ive got the temps in the veg room down for the most part but wat i was saying was i tested diff methods to see wat works best. im most likely goin to add a Y split into the veg room duct with a damper to allow exhausting the room. still deciding wat all i want to do. mite bump up to a new 1ton AC portable unit for the veg room as well.
 

cruzer101

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Hey boomer,
The waterfarm set up you got. I grew a couple times with them and found it hard to maintain proper nutes and ph in the individual containers. The deal is the gravity feed does not move the water between the stations. What I did was modify it to drain all to one res between waterings. Then I was able to check nutes and ph all at once.

Its in my waterfarm journal if you wanna check it out.
 

BooMeR242

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Hey boomer,
The waterfarm set up you got. I grew a couple times with them and found it hard to maintain proper nutes and ph in the individual containers. The deal is the gravity feed does not move the water between the stations. What I did was modify it to drain all to one res between waterings. Then I was able to check nutes and ph all at once.

Its in my waterfarm journal if you wanna check it out.
thanks for hte headsup we were talking about that with mybuddy at the hydro store since they have the thing setup for display and he said the ph is a bitch but i guess it sumthing to be watched closely. im gonna have to take a look and see the drain setup
 

cruzer101

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yea, heres a paint file from when I did it.



Actually that to convert to ebb an flow. I did it with the air pumps, ebb an flow, then I just ran lines right to the circles
Whatever you decide to do, drill more holes in the bottom of the brown inner tub.
 

BooMeR242

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thanks again cruz i read the whole first page and gonna talk to my guy tomorrow and see wat he suggests. mite just throw a pump in the rez to force circulate the water thus in theory help reduce ph inbalance..? idk we will see or ill do ur method
 

laceygirl

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A simpler way to move your water almost passively, would be to use some really big airstones in your res... It will move the water and help with your pH issues... Think of a fish tank.... :-):-P
 

#1Raiderfan420

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I am not sure if you already thought of this Boomer, but I have a 500 gph pump on is side in my res to circulate. It works great, I can actually add nutes and it mixes them for me in a matter of minutes.
 

Drella

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theres some great hydro minds at work here, cheers on getting it dialed in boomer, i really want to see you dial it in.
 

cruzer101

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thanks again cruz i read the whole first page and gonna talk to my guy tomorrow and see wat he suggests. mite just throw a pump in the rez to force circulate the water thus in theory help reduce ph inbalance..? idk we will see or ill do ur method
Its not the ph in the controller or the ph in the top res. Its controlling the ph and PPMs in each container thats hard. You know how when you are growing even the same strain one plant grow better or worse than another. Same deal happens in each bucket. You will see, its a pain in the ass. You cant force circulate the water between the stations one line in, one line out. Thats why I figured the only way to do it is to collect the water together then pump it all back. You can put the water pump and the air pump on the same timer. It will take a few minutes to fill the station again and start watering but that wont harm an air pump.

Whatever works for ya man. Maybe you wont have that issue keeping them all in veg and all the same size. I would give them a shot of clearex once a month to clean out all those lines and tubs too. If you go with a conversion. If not, you can clean them by hand. I found not only does clearex flush the nutrients from a plant it cleans up the containers pretty good.
 

BooMeR242

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Its not the ph in the controller or the ph in the top res. Its controlling the ph and PPMs in each container thats hard. You know how when you are growing even the same strain one plant grow better or worse than another. Same deal happens in each bucket. You will see, its a pain in the ass. You cant force circulate the water between the stations one line in, one line out. Thats why I figured the only way to do it is to collect the water together then pump it all back. You can put the water pump and the air pump on the same timer. It will take a few minutes to fill the station again and start watering but that wont harm an air pump.

Whatever works for ya man. Maybe you wont have that issue keeping them all in veg and all the same size. I would give them a shot of clearex once a month to clean out all those lines and tubs too. If you go with a conversion. If not, you can clean them by hand. I found not only does clearex flush the nutrients from a plant it cleans up the containers pretty good.

thanks for the advice cruz i grabbed a submersible pump today and supposedly he says itll help and in theory like u said it should b ok since its in veg. but he said no matter wat checkin ph everyday is standard and this system shouldnt go unchecked for more then 3. basically for the first year or so with my setups i need to master everything before i can even really trust shit to run alone. even then im focused on checkin shit everyday as part of habit. but im gonna try the pump and see at happens. i think ur right tho cuz the pump will push water from the controller to the first bucket but then wat ya know? just floods that bucket and maybe help push thru to the next 7? idk so we will see
 
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