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bruce786

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Thanks I appreciate it. Im glad they started behaving because we never got off to a great start.

Funny you mentioned that. Ive been thinking about stretch and im sure there is less than im used to seeing. Im not moaning about it to be honest as stretch annoys the fuck out of me.

Im using lenses on the cobs; so im putting it down to the intensity of the light.
 

PurpleBuz

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Thanks I appreciate it. Im glad they started behaving because we never got off to a great start.

Funny you mentioned that. Ive been thinking about stretch and im sure there is less than im used to seeing. Im not moaning about it to be honest as stretch annoys the fuck out of me.

Im using lenses on the cobs; so im putting it down to the intensity of the light.
3K crees? might need to add a few watts of 660 deep reds. I find some stretch is helpful, allows for a thicker canopy better airflow easier penetration.

curious to see how she grows.
 

bruce786

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Yea using the 3000k. What have you noticed with the deep reds?

Yea this strain should stretch grown her for almost 2 years - same cutting. Its crazy watching how she reacts to the new lighting.
But i must say ive never seen her express herself like this... but I like it!
 

EfficientWatt

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Hi bruce,

Sorry if this was previously mentionned, but what are you upgrading from ?
Can you go in more detail as to the differences you've noticed ?

I always am interested in getting all the feedback from experience I can :)

Thanks.

Yea using the 3000k. What have you noticed with the deep reds?

Yea this strain should stretch grown her for almost 2 years - same cutting. Its crazy watching how she reacts to the new lighting.
But i must say ive never seen her express herself like this... but I like it!
 

bruce786

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We were using a 600w digital HPS for flowering with a parabolic reflector. I think our max yield was about 16.5 ounces per light. With our usual gpw sitting at 0.6 to 0.7.

Plant reactions ive noticed are the following:
Faster growth - These plants were almost killed at the beginning from our neglect and i think it was within a 14day period they were monsters.
Nutrients - The plants are using more of the nutrients then i was used to as i was seeing defeciencies not normally present during veg. As soon as i upped the ppm the plants responded much better.
Clones - we took about 90 clones yesterday and i think they were taken off of 4 plants... didnt even put a dent in the undergrowth. All clones were very strong cuts so they were receiving good light. Definetly different from Hps where you normally see alot of deformed sucker branches that are we discard as junk.
Compact- Node on top of node on top of node on top of node! Very tight growth. I mean i know some people heading to more blue in their spectrums but ill be sitting tight on the 3000ks.
Canopy - My canopy is level; in some places its too level. Im very pleased with the light spread. Its one of the real plus points with the cobs. Hps seems silly when you realise that the center plants always grow better/ stronger. With the cobs (and lenses) i have the peace of mind knowing all plants are pretty much receiving more than adequate lighting.
 

PurpleBuz

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Yea using the 3000k. What have you noticed with the deep reds?

Yea this strain should stretch grown her for almost 2 years - same cutting. Its crazy watching how she reacts to the new lighting.
But i must say ive never seen her express herself like this... but I like it!
deep reds (660nm) have a lot of notable effects, too much for a quick answer. The Cree 3K Spectrum in my opinion is low in the reds, 660 and beyond.
I mentioned deep reds because some extra will increase stretch a bit and give you a wider spectrum.
 

EfficientWatt

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To be precise, 3000K does have more red than 3500K and 4000K and up .. but yeah they all could use some extra 660, especially 4000K. 4000K + 660 I beleive could give the absolute best results.

deep reds (660nm) have a lot of notable effects, too much for a quick answer. The Cree 3K Spectrum in my opinion is low in the reds, 660 and beyond.
I mentioned deep reds because some extra will increase stretch a bit and give you a wider spectrum.
 

BecauseIgotHigh

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dandyrandy

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We were using a 600w digital HPS for flowering with a parabolic reflector. I think our max yield was about 16.5 ounces per light. With our usual gpw sitting at 0.6 to 0.7.

Plant reactions ive noticed are the following:
Faster growth - These plants were almost killed at the beginning from our neglect and i think it was within a 14day period they were monsters.
Nutrients - The plants are using more of the nutrients then i was used to as i was seeing defeciencies not normally present during veg. As soon as i upped the ppm the plants responded much better.
Clones - we took about 90 clones yesterday and i think they were taken off of 4 plants... didnt even put a dent in the undergrowth. All clones were very strong cuts so they were receiving good light. Definetly different from Hps where you normally see alot of deformed sucker branches that are we discard as junk.
Compact- Node on top of node on top of node on top of node! Very tight growth. I mean i know some people heading to more blue in their spectrums but ill be sitting tight on the 3000ks.
Canopy - My canopy is level; in some places its too level. Im very pleased with the light spread. Its one of the real plus points with the cobs. Hps seems silly when you realise that the center plants always grow better/ stronger. With the cobs (and lenses) i have the peace of mind knowing all plants are pretty much receiving more than adequate lighting.
Nice job! I'm running soil and growing just for myself and with a nice yielder I see 1 gpw plus. I'm using 8 Vero 29's (800w) total. I will see ~1000g in a few weeks. I imagine with the high tech hydro etc. You may double yield. Very efficient CXB's would be even better. I'm interested in this run.:clap:
 

littlejacob

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Bonjour
I believe high yielder, even with cxb 3590@1400mA and a good hydro system would pull 2gpw maxi, so if with your vero much less efficient you pull 1.25gpw it would be great and made me think about buying some and run them hard!(I saw many grow log with cxb@1400 in soil and they pulled 1.3/1.5 max and it is very very good already)
Good luck
Have a great day ★
 

bruce786

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These pictures are about 4 days old. The plants are doing great. PPMs are still around 1400 - Plants are drinking a ton of water. Some of the smaller plants before the flip (about 4) havent quite caught up with the rest but with the cobs it doesn't matter too much. This is probably one of the best canopies weve had and the stretch has been much more manageable compared to HPS.

Thanks for following.
 

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bruce786

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Nice job! I'm running soil and growing just for myself and with a nice yielder I see 1 gpw plus. I'm using 8 Vero 29's (800w) total. I will see ~1000g in a few weeks. I imagine with the high tech hydro etc. You may double yield. Very efficient CXB's would be even better. I'm interested in this run.:clap:
Thats great results, like i said with hps im accustomed to seeing about .6 - .7 gpw. Shes a nice yielder Not really a heavy one so 1gpw would be great. Ive seen a couple growers hit higher then that like captain morgan i think hitting 1.5.

Bonjour
I believe high yielder, even with cxb 3590@1400mA and a good hydro system would pull 2gpw maxi, so if with your vero much less efficient you pull 1.25gpw it would be great and made me think about buying some and run them hard!(I saw many grow log with cxb@1400 in soil and they pulled 1.3/1.5 max and it is very very good already)
Good luck
Have a great day ★
Wow 2gpw would be out of this world i cant see me doing that with this strain. Maybe a critical mass/big bud type - who knows. Thanks LJ


LJ

Your written English skills are doing great, like a native english writer.
Id be totally psyched out trying to talk shop w French stoners.

Impressive man.
Thanks Test, hows your grow coming along?


Fuck me dead man, thats how mine looked like before I took off my scrog net.
lol thanks man i hope thats a good thing. I dont think i could take this screen off now with about killing half of them! Might have to deleaf for some airflow because the canopy is dense
 

littlejacob

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LJ

Your written English skills are doing great, like a native english writer.
Id be totally psyched out trying to talk shop w French stoners.

Impressive man.
Bonjour
Thanks a lot testiclees...it is because we write...understand someone who talk fast and with a virginian accent would be impossible for me!!!
Even when I watch REALSTYLE vids, if he speaks too fast or use slang...I have problems to get everything. ..but I keep watching US series in English so it become easier and easier...
And I only learn English 4 years at school, but when you like a language you learn fast it is the same for french, trust me I had many girl friend from all over the globe, who came in my place for holiday or study and at least 4 were speaking french very well in 2/3 years! (Maybe I am a good teacher...cause I use to talk to her in English than the same in french...it help!)
Qui veut apprendre le français?
Bonne culture a tous!
 

bruce786

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Ppms at about 1400.
This is day 28 of flower got another 30-35 days left. My leaves are suffering which is normal for me at this stage in the cycle. If anyone has any input on ways to remedy this then let me know below.

Thanks
 

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littlejacob

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Bonjour
You are right...girls could be a little more green...but they look healthy anyway...!
You said earlier that they drink a lot...do you add water more often than nutes
Did you try to give hers 1600ppm (I know a french grower who go 2000ppm for hangry plants)
Have a great day ★
 

bruce786

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Yea they are still very healthy, 90% of the leaves are fine, but i never seem to be able to get this under control. I add water as i see the ppms increase. I think i may try add more Magnesium and see where that takes me.
 
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