RainbowBrite86
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LoL Johnny I'll agree with that.
Ethical Dilemma
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medicalmaryjane
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i take birth control pills and they are over 99% effective. there would be a heck of a lot less children if people were more responsible and serious about using protection. it shouldn't always be on the woman either.
RainbowBrite86
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I'm for gay marriage. But this did make me smile.
I understand it's a controversial question. I think there are some circumstances where it should be OK for you to sterilize your child. Like with the rape case I talked about earlier. She didn't get the choice to not carry the baby herself, she should have the choice to not continue those genes. I'm not for sterilization for population control, I was just asking because someone else I spoke with about the same topic said that they believed that's what we should do, so I want to know what you guys think.
I promise not to sterilize any children. Goodness.
Montykoolaid
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You are correct sir! It feels fucking great, the sex and moaning and neck kissing and gentle in and out while breasts are bouncing (or..I dont know, pecs) and that incredible sensation that weakens your knees and makes your heart beat 3x faster as you unload your cum into this completely wanting chick.
Then your a dad. WTF!
Total Head
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no, parents should not be making reproductive decisions for children. it reminds me of the stories of hermaphroditic children and their parents just reaching into a hat and "choosing" a gender for them, and all the problems it causes as they mature.
people who will likely be dead 50 years from now have no business making population growth decisions for an era during which they will be drinking peas through a straw.
people who will likely be dead 50 years from now have no business making population growth decisions for an era during which they will be drinking peas through a straw.
JohnnyGreenfingers
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Lol...that was awesome Monty. Such buildup, and then the last line was like a pitcher of ice water down my frillies. Well played, sir.
medicalmaryjane
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i think that depends on whether you believe that those types of traits are learned or inherited. i tend to believe a nurtuing environment could lead that child to have absolutely no connection to the father's bad genetics. why penalize the kid because MAYBE he will be genetically inferior? imagine if he grew up to be a good guy and he met a nice woman and they wanted children and he had to tell that terrible story that has absolutely no connection to him currently. about a man he never even met.
OGEvilgenius
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I'm not sure why everyone thinks the world's resources are going to be exhausted. There are many technologies to produce energy and food really shouldn't be an issue (of course it is, but that is by design, ie: US gov't dumping grain into the ocean).
And no, there is no situation where it is OK for you to sterilize your child for them. You have to be a really awful person to do that to someone as innocent as a child, especially your own child.
OGEvilgenius
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Except his point was that why is it OK for you to decide who gets to reproduce and who doesn't? Obviously you feel above the people you would forcibly sterilize. If you really feel like the planet is running out of resources and you think forcing your own children to be sterilized is the solution, I suggest you just go ahead and jump off a bridge just in case there's one day where your kids might have to reproduce. It's seriously egotistical and insane to suggest anyone has the power to make that decision for anyone else who is completely innocent (ie: a child). If you want to argue it should be considered for rapists, that's fine, but I'd disagree there as well because the justice system is not infallible.
JohnnyGreenfingers
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If we run out of food we could start eating the excess population.
Mmmmmmmmmm, Soylent Green!
And by eating the extra population we would create more room. For more people. Then do it all over again.
Mmmmmmmmmm, Soylent Green!
And by eating the extra population we would create more room. For more people. Then do it all over again.
RainbowBrite86
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I really do understand how harsh it sounds, but I just don't think it's as black and white as that. I mean, when I say children I'm talking everyone under 18. Another good example besides the rape one: I took care of a girl in a nursing home. She was 16 years old, in there because she tried to kill herself by shooting herself in the head and well...it didn't go as she'd hoped. She could speak but not intelligent conversation. She couldn't even voice her own needs, she'd just spout off random words. So we have a 16 year old defenseless girl. Anybody in the medical field could have predicted what was going to happen to her, and it did. She had a baby by some aide that was supposed to be helping her. Her parents knew she would never be capable of taking care of a child...should they not have been allowed to have her tubes tied?
medicalmaryjane
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well what about people with genetic illnsses having kids? we know some conditions are inherited but no one is steralizing people to prevent the spread of these illnesses.
RainbowBrite86
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Ok whoa, you don't have to get hateful. It's a hypothetical question at best, and it was just to have a conversation. I never ever claimed to be the one who should decide who does and does not get to reproduce. For the record, i'm just toking and talking like the thread is intended for. I'm not recruiting people for forceful sterilizations.
Maybe someday the government will start deciding who gets to reproduce and who doesn't so they can control what characteristics are being passed on...
JohnnyGreenfingers
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Ooooo, sneaky burn. Likey. (this would be one of those yambag moments I was talking about before?)
AtrophyIntelect
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Overpopulation is a myth. you should look into it, its actualy a pretty big conspiracy. They're already INVOLUNTARILY sterilizing woman in parts of China through 'immunity vaccines'.... yea immune to 2 things polio and pregnancy (this happened in Africa). You should look into this stuff. its a Blatant violation of the most basic human right. :/
medicalmaryjane
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i still think it's crazy to put someone like that through surgery to tie the tubes. how about doing better screening the people they hire!!
RainbowBrite86
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There are doctors who will sterilize a person, minor or not, who is mentally handicapped. In my opinion it's necessary in these circumstances because these people aren't able to defend themselves and sometimes can't even speak up about what people are doing to them. It would be awful to have your mentally handicapped daughter pregnant and not even understanding what's going on. Should we sterilize people who have terrible genetic diseases? I mean...if this is about protecting innocent children, what's worse? Sterilizing someone who may not want it, or a baby dying a horrible death like Tay-Sachs disease because their parents wanted to see if they would come out OK?
RainbowBrite86
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Pre-hiring screening only really covers the person's past, it can't predict what they'll do in the future. The guy had an opportunity he never had before and he took it. She couldn't understand any of the procedures she had to go through...at least with surgery she'd be asleep and wouldn't remember any of it.
JohnnyGreenfingers
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The problem I see with that is, how do you tell people with terrible genetic diseases (and probably already shitty lives because of them) that they can't have children because of it? I totally get your point in all of your posts, but it seems to me like if people started going to that kind of length...it wouldn't be much further to stretch to think that you might as well kill the person with the disease too.
Personally, I'm happy to think that I'll be an old man or dead by the time the world has to seriously think about things like that, IF we haven't already blown this planet to pieces fighting each other.
Personally, I'm happy to think that I'll be an old man or dead by the time the world has to seriously think about things like that, IF we haven't already blown this planet to pieces fighting each other.
OGEvilgenius
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Absolutely not. Why should they? You just said yourself she's incapable of much, she's not going to be going out and getting laid and if she ends up being raped that doesn't mean the child is going to be worthless or a rapist.