Feminized Seeds Hermie Test - 14 strains, which are high risk; frequency; DM Reverse;

The45King

Active Member
I had 4 or 5 nanners towards the end on my whiteberry clone
i picked them off and once the plant was cured
it had like partialy grown seed in it awful taste
had to ditch it,its the only time ive had nanners and
i believe it was because the mother i took the clone from
produced a few seeds towards the end other than that
ive had no probs with fem seeds apart from ceres orange bud
which was a full on herm and my friends had seeds in his.
Currently runnin bb blue cheese 7 weeks old no probs so far
fingers crossed
 

ABM2010

Active Member
gotta question for u,hope u can help me out
i bought myself 5 super lemon haze seeds from greenhouse and 5 violator kush from barneys seeds
ive had them for 12 weeks now from germination and ther still in the veg cycle
i dont know alot about hermie as this is my 1st time doin seeds my pre-flowers hav finally showed an the violator kush r showing male and female pre flowers and the super lemon haze havnt shown any male pre flowers
so does this mean that my super lemon haze will not hermie?
maybe a silly question but just want to be sure
im about to put them in flower in a few days,i will try and get some pics in

i would appreciate the help from u or any other person
ive tried asking a few people on this site and youtube but noone has shown with a answer

just want some good lookin bud like yours
peace
 

Maximus cannabis

Active Member
gotta question for u,hope u can help me out
i bought myself 5 super lemon haze seeds from greenhouse and 5 violator kush from barneys seeds
ive had them for 12 weeks now from germination and ther still in the veg cycle
i dont know alot about hermie as this is my 1st time doin seeds my pre-flowers hav finally showed an the violator kush r showing male and female pre flowers and the super lemon haze havnt shown any male pre flowers
so does this mean that my super lemon haze will not hermie?
maybe a silly question but just want to be sure
im about to put them in flower in a few days,i will try and get some pics in

i would appreciate the help from u or any other person
ive tried asking a few people on this site and youtube but noone has shown with a answer

just want some good lookin bud like yours
peace
You néed to put your plants to flower before you can tell if it's going to go hermie. How big are your plants after that much veg time? I hope you have planned for the stretch that is coming.
 

Wav3F0rm

Member
This is a pretty amazing thread. I have some AK47 crossed with sativa spirit. However, i'm thinking it was actually some land race sativa, considering the flowering time and how big the plant got(saw pictures). Anyways, genetics aside, i'm late into flowering, around 7 weeks and one of my plants is going hermie pretty hardcore. Bananas all over the place, every day. I do not notice any pollen sacks, but, its started some really weird growth. Right now, i can't tell if its growing new calyxes or pollen sacs. I'd like to think calyxes because they have pistols coming out of them. However, the growth and bud growth is really weird. The buds are turning into branches basically and at the top of the plant same scenario only its producing a lot of leaves. Kinda like its going back into veg, but, its the only plant doing all this stuff, really odd. (but, looking over the "revival of the ultimate sativa thread, these buds looks similar, i dunno)

I was wondering if anyone else had anything like this happen. Thanks.
 

kermit2692

Well-Known Member
ive def. seen some weird growth before could be nothing but most likely your better off just scrapping that plant or finishing it somewhere away from the rest...put up pics
 

JustinThyme

Active Member
I've grown out many different strains, from many different breeders, and I have to say that I have had 75% Hermies from GHS feminized seeds, I just had to pull the most beautiful White Rhino out of my room last night. I have had EXcellent luck with Barneys and G13 Labs but GHS fems have not been good to me. Honestly I have had the worst luck with all of their Genetics. But to their credit, They have given me my favorite strain, "trainwreck", but that too starts putting out bananas about week 7 into flower, but I don't mind, smoke always comes out righteous, so I thank them for that.. We'll see. If I grow out this Super Lemon Haze and she herms, I will never buy anything from them again.
 

kermit2692

Well-Known Member
dont know from experience but from what ive seen greenhouse seems to spend too much time coming up with new strains and names to make a buck...ill give em a try to see for myself but i dont have too high of hopes
 

zels420

Member
I did a pack of super lemon haze seeds from greenhouse last year and all the seeds popped dicks by day 25 or so of 12/12
still have a few packs of greenhouse seeds to run but I know I will never buy fem seeds again !
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
I recently read that if you force your plant into 12/12 without letting it grow preflowers first, that it stresses out the plant big time and it has a better chance of hermie-ing
 

sir rance alot

Active Member
All of my fems have done well except for Sharksbreath.. Grew all mothers from seed, all strains showed sex in 23 days after sprouting. After 4 weeks, took clones and switched to 12/12 a week later. Harvested all strains in 65 days and everything was great. I put the clones in the flower chamber and from 2 clones from the same mother, one is female and one has turned completely male....No visible signs of any female organs.. These things came from the same mother, whom by the way came out great, but one clone turned full male.. WTF!!!
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
All of my fems have done well except for Sharksbreath.. Grew all mothers from seed, all strains showed sex in 23 days after sprouting. After 4 weeks, took clones and switched to 12/12 a week later. Harvested all strains in 65 days and everything was great. I put the clones in the flower chamber and from 2 clones from the same mother, one is female and one has turned completely male....No visible signs of any female organs.. These things came from the same mother, whom by the way came out great, but one clone turned full male.. WTF!!!
that must be that 1% error ratio they give. ie 99% female
 

vic420

Active Member
I've grown Greenhouse's The Church, Arjans ultra haze #1 and Cheese from feminized seeds. I havn't had a single pollen sac from any of them, and i'm already onto the 4th generation of clones from the AUH#1.

Honestly, and i can say this after alot of research, as well as the experience of having grown their genetics. Greenhouse is a great breeder. There is alot of Arjan bashing around these forums, and in my experience, its mostly unfounded. They have a state of the art breeding facility that puts out Cup winner after Cup winner (some say they buy the cup...)
I'll be the first to admit that their Haze strains are full of retards. (as a matter of fact, my AUH#1 has the stupidest growth i've ever seen, and takes 15-16 weeks to flower) BUT, even the retarded strains are great weed.

Look at this stupid leaf. It looks like its parents took lsd. My AUH is full of them.

Right around 9 weeks when you're imagining the hairs will start receding and bud will start filling out, she starts a secent stretch, Stupid stupid growth.
But still, shes never spat out so much as nanner one. Also its probably the best high i've ever had from marijuana. Euphoric, soaring high that pumps you full of energy and has no comedown to speak of.
Anyhow i'm getting off topic a little bit.

When i started growing, my dad gave me about 75 seeds he got from a bag of weed.
These turned out to be Feminized seeds with about 15% of the plants being genetic 50/50 hermies. Of the females that remain, i've never had any staminate growth. As a matter of fact, i've let plants go well past ripe in hopes of harvesting a few late appearing pollen sacs. Unfortunately they just don't seem to want to give me any. I'd imagine light stress would probably do it, but i'd rather not herm them just to say that i did.

I dont know if anyone else has had the pleasure of getting feminized bagseed, but now i'm at the point where i wish i had a male, i'd hate to lose these genes with a cloning fuckup or something.:joint:

Anyhow, long story short, I Highly reccomend GH feminized seeds.
Also if anyone has a link to a good tutorial on how to make feminized seeds i would gladly drop some rep and some good karma.

sorry for the rambling and slightly off topic post.

that second picture of the plant not filling it . and doing wierd growth could be a cou ple diff things.. genetics.. and or .. nutrients.. or ur timer has gone bad and ur light schedule is all over the place. i had this growth and i noticed my 2 timers werent in sync.. 1 came on hour early one went off hour late.. causing only 10 hours of dark.. maybe a little less. and i got same growth.. but anyways if u found out wat it waws let me knwo.
 

vic420

Active Member
You néed to put your plants to flower before you can tell if it's going to go hermie. How big are your plants after that much veg time? I hope you have planned for the stretch that is coming.
not necc.. ive had plants show female and male parts in veg .. which is a hermi..
 

dura72

Well-Known Member
lol, i was subbed to this thread but no-ones posted in months, i wondered what the fuck was goin on when it re-appeard!!
 

oiko

Member
fattest one as well out of four female seeds bubblegummers. 3-4 weeks from 12-12, grown from seed. its so early, so i had to chop it. buds are small, but pretty sticky, with a spicy fuel smell. could be ferts though. counted about 7-8 banana clusters, not yet mature, luckily, apparently.
 

oiko

Member
fattest one as well out of four female seeds bubblegummers. 3-4 weeks from 12-12, grown from seed. its so early, so i had to chop it. buds are small, but pretty sticky, with a spicy fuel smell. could be ferts though. counted about 7-8 banana clusters, not yet mature, luckily, apparently.
Well, shouldnt badmouth female seeds for what was probably my own fault. I forgot. I cracked the stem on it one week earlier, but it quickly recovered (like a late supercrop :D), but the stress was proboably too much for her/him and he/she started forming clusters.

However i spotted one male flower on another female, which i picked off, and it hasnt grown back, so i'm all over satisfied with female bg.
 
Well, shouldnt badmouth female seeds for what was probably my own fault. I forgot. I cracked the stem on it one week earlier, but it quickly recovered (like a late supercrop :D), but the stress was proboably too much for her/him and he/she started forming clusters.

However i spotted one male flower on another female, which i picked off, and it hasnt grown back, so i'm all over satisfied with female bg.
hi
this is a great topic,
im no expert but i have been smoking weed for 37 years and am just wondering doesnt nature stress plants? perhaps in different ways but most of the stress you inflict nature will too plus much more except maybe abrupt mixed light cycles.its hard to say if female seed hermies are the result of manipulation or were to begin with and this surfaced the tendancy. do all plants respond to this hormone use?.i wonder if anyone has cloned and tried one outdoors and compared( if they have that option).if it does herm indoors but didnt outdoors then it must be indoor environmentally sensitive and maybe one can checklist and manage it to be suitable or maybe not. either way i throw em out i want plants that work with me and not have to pussyfoot around and know its worth it..if both hermy its in the seed.in regards to a statement earlier about all strains are hermy prone to a degree it may be true i dont know,i take it the author meant its a recessive gene because regular plants are the norm in cannabis especially indica and i dont remeber ever having a pure indica hermy,i think its a sativa trait and this then surfaces due to manipulation or stress..but i have deliberately stressed strains in many ways and some did not hermy .maybe i havent stressed those strains that didnt in the manner that would induce.also i read mel frank say that a lot of hermies arent hermies they are complete reversals and this occurs because they arent old enough yet when flowered and are confused but that would be hard to prove because you only have one shot (and most people wouldnt wait to see if the female flowers ceased thus making a full male plant, but now i will start some seeds take clones asap and flower one then after 3 -4months ill flower another) unless your comparing many seeds of the same batch differening flowering induction age.i stress all my potential plants and if they hermy i dont use them,(i dont care what seed bank they are from or if someone discovered the seed at the zoo in camel shit already sprouted and smuggled it into the governments private grow facilities then crossed it with a seed found pulled from a dying rastafarians hand as he took his last breath thrown from a derailed train or other nonsense. do we really need these stories to sell seeds?cant the product speak for itself?isnt that what breeding is?to supply us with seeds that exceed our expectations and take care of hermies and other problems so anyone can succeed? . because theres plenty of plants even within the same seed batch that dont.a few nonviable male flowers at the end of the cycle may be acceptable..simply not letting your plant make seeds is stressing it.when i try a new plant i label it alphabetically and this removes any bias and store a cross reference for the future if it is desirable i label it properly .i think the only way to eliminate undesirable plants is by stressing them,i dont want to work with a plant that doesnt cooperate,i want to work with a plant that i can abuse without surprises down the road,,i just lick my wounds and move on because they arent good for improving the gene pool and will just slow your world and you lose enthusiasm.you just have to keep planting ..by being very selective with culls you eventually get stability.excellent plants are very hard to come by and every ones plant seems to be the best since its theirs .and one mans version of potency may not be yours.a good way to select plants is to let some clones of the strain you have seed. the f2 line is where its at to select from when you have many seeds your odds really improve and plants segregate.. unless its shit to begin with you will always find great plants if enough seeds are planted. a lot of seed banks simply do that very thing .thats where individual super plants, are found,proper skunk#1 and northern lights inbred line strains wouldnt be foundation strains if they threw off hermies consistantly .its all the flooding with polyhybrids and people just putting any plants together with no real experience,like puppy mills that did this.making a shady buck.and pretending they are botanists and plant breeders ,which i definately am not...i dont buy female seeds regardless of the hermy thing,to me theres no improvent and eventually the gene pool will stagnate on us all and good true breeding strains will not be retrievable using them.its a step backwards ..in the end i dont think managing hermies is the way to go either ..any true hermy is unacceptable in comparison to whats available.i got ripped off many times buying seeds,quality has gone down in the last decade .when they say this isnt your grandfathers weed propaganda its true, grandfathers weed was consistant and dealers only sold shit weed once... if i give my friends clones then i know that it will be high quality no surprises and they dont end up with embarrasing weed bitching at me.soon female seeds will be a bygone fad and lose their appeal.and one final question some of these crosses seedbanks have are clone only crosses they maintain,why dont they self polinate these clone only parents?maybe they cant then that means ntot all plants can be feminised..wouldnt that make more sense because otherwise its not reproducable..sorry if i rambled .
thank you .
 
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