For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

BuddGreen

Active Member
im thinking hard of getting one of thoses systems ,for you guyz who have used it it says it can be extended to 48 sites on one system??? for us mj growers how many pots do you guys think could be added on the 12 pots system whithout downsides during the whole cycles??
I would suggest no more than 18 pots per 55 gallon rez. My buddy is having me set one up like that under two 1000w lights. 9 pots under each 4' by 4' air cooled hood. It's what I felt was a killer combo. If it works out good, he'll have me do another one next to it so he can harvest 9 plants every 2 weeks...I'm one of his paid trimmers so it works for me to say the least. Cookies, Brownies, awesome weed and money...I want this every 2 weeks!!!
 
ive had leaks. i had one of the grommets that goes in the bucket dry out. it took me like a week to find the source of the small, slow leak, especially becuase i had a bad float at one point so i kept thinking it was the contrtoller bucket. ever since i swapped out the grommet its bbeen fine
 

bowlfullofbliss

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Its not just leaks in the system that make carpet a bad choice if you never have a leak....... Its what about the time when you want to rearrange the plants so the short one is in the middle and the tall ones are around the outside? The buckets WILL drip a little water on the floor no matter what you do. And sometimes the plastic fittings crack, your controller may overfill if a float fails and spills the entire reservoir worth of nutrient solution all over the floor too. What about when you want to hand water a plant that got some nutrient burn with some fresh clean water and you spill the half gallon on the floor when you trip on a mouse?

If the carpet was at least white to reflect the light that hits the floor from only having 6 plants using 1/2 of the space of the lights for the first 4 weeks of flowering then that'd be cool at least. :)

But yea, congrats on having NO LEAKS! We ALL still get a water spill -- eventually. :) :) :)
I use vasoline on all fittings when putting them together. I use it on the gromets, and the fittings going into the gromets, and putting on the hoses. Zero leaks.

I do however seem to spill quite a bit of water when doing changeouts though. No doubt about that. Dumping in all those 5 gallon buckets you're bound to spill some. I made a sweet drain right next to my system. It is 2" pvc that runs straight down and outside. I just hook up a hose to the fill, flip her on, and out it goes.
 

researchkitty

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I'm using 3.5 gallon buckets, 36 per reservoir now. dont listen to the "only 18" unless they are using much bigger buckets like 5 gallons. The buckets are full of hydroton so a 3.5 gallon bucket only holds about 1.5 gallons of water to the fill line. I top off the reservoir every 3 or 4 days thats all it needs.
 

ears

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try the growElf 5 gallon system. i have switched out all my two gallon white to five gallon black. the controler brain runs a 65 liter per min air pump that that attaches to 4" air stones under the inside eachpot bucket, only in the flood cycle. and when it goes back to a drain cycle it turns on a cerculation pump in the 55 gal. res., and you can run a chiller on the same plug instead of the pump, and all of that is controlled by the same timer. the shit is sick. check it out on youtub, keyword growelf one word. sorry for the spelling, but my plants dont mind..
 

researchkitty

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5 gallon buckets are retarded on an Ebb & Grow. Your plants wont ever use that much of a bucket. I grow mine 4 feet tall and they barely use half of the 3.5 gallon buckets......... All you'll do is promote water loss and waste nutrients really. Most people using 5 gallon buckets have purchased them from Lowes or Home Depot because they are cheap and in stock. They are most certainly NOT the best or proper bucket for E&F unless your going to veg them for a few MONTHS before flowering (which, some people for outdoors would, but not on indoor Hydroton E&G)

With respect to Grow Elf's system, it's cute and new and whatever, but this is the cap thread, not other companies. Everyone who posts on RIU about grow elf always has a very low post count and I think its more trolling for good publicity than anything. Most new people are asking questions, rather than sucking a manufacturers dick right off the bat. :)
 

ears

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5 gallon buckets are retarded on an Ebb & Grow. Your plants wont ever use that much of a bucket. I grow mine 4 feet tall and they barely use half of the 3.5 gallon buckets......... All you'll do is promote water loss and waste nutrients really. Most people using 5 gallon buckets have purchased them from Lowes or Home Depot because they are cheap and in stock. They are most certainly NOT the best or proper bucket for E&F unless your going to veg them for a few MONTHS before flowering (which, some people for outdoors would, but not on indoor Hydroton E&G)

With respect to Grow Elf's system, it's cute and new and whatever, but this is the cap thread, not other companies. Everyone who posts on RIU about grow elf always has a very low post count and I think its more trolling for good publicity than anything. Most new people are asking questions, rather than sucking a manufacturers dick right off the bat. :)

wow. angry much? just letting fellow growers in on some cool shit... did you forget to change your rag? as a comercial grower i have found that the roots have more room to reach out. and the bubblers in the buckets have promoted increadible growth way more then the simple ebb and flo design of this type of system. as a ex cap consumer i am coming here to share my findings with you and anyone else. maybe save someone from the problems that come from the caps. sorry to ruffle your feathers, but i thought we were here to help each other.
xoxo
sorry about the spelling, but my plant dont mind.
 
Ears im glad you posted the link I purchased a cap monster ebb and I had to replace the leaking fucker twice in 2 weeks (Fresh out the box)!!!
Now im waiting on a replacement Caps say they checked there self and should not leak. I hope Game James at Cap is right because if not I WANT MY FUCKING MONEY BACK YESTERDAY!

Ears ANY leaking issue or recalls with the Growelf?
 

ears

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Ears im glad you posted the link I purchased a cap monster ebb and I had to replace the leaking fucker twice in 2 weeks (Fresh out the box)!!!
Now im waiting on a replacement Caps say they checked there self and should not leak. I hope Game James at Cap is right because if not I WANT MY FUCKING MONEY BACK YESTERDAY!

Ears ANY leaking issue or recalls with the Growelf?
no not one. i haven"t had a flood, failed float, clock malfunction, or the dreaided leak.
 

researchkitty

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I'm not bleeding. Right now. But keep posting, 48 posts are totally cool.

It's great that you proclaim your love for GrowElf in about 20% of your very few posts. Buckets are buckets! Roots wont grow more in a 5 gallon bucket than they will in a 2.5 or 3.5 gallon bucket. It just takes up more space under a light allowing you less plants. Unless you veg yours for at least 8 or 12 weeks, a 5 gallon bucket wont do you any good.

But I'm happy you love talking about Grow Elf and the first person to jump on you for your advertisements you ask if they are bleeding! LOL @ You sir. I hope you sell lots for them!

Later =P
 

axl

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Sorry if this issue has already been discussed. I am reading the entire thread, i think its awesome, but not all the way through.


Who runs more than one strain at a time. I would like to try a bunch of different strains, but the different flower times would be an issue.

Someone said that they just use floraklean for 4 days and then resume nutes for the rest, any input?
 

BuddGreen

Active Member
wow. angry much? just letting fellow growers in on some cool shit... did you forget to change your rag? as a comercial grower i have found that the roots have more room to reach out. and the bubblers in the buckets have promoted increadible growth way more then the simple ebb and flo design of this type of system. as a ex cap consumer i am coming here to share my findings with you and anyone else. maybe save someone from the problems that come from the caps. sorry to ruffle your feathers, but i thought we were here to help each other.
xoxo
sorry about the spelling, but my plant dont mind.

5 Gallon Hydroarm bucket and some roots @ 40 days into Veg...Can you trim roots or do you just let'em go???


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ears

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I'm not bleeding. Right now. But keep posting, 48 posts are totally cool.

It's great that you proclaim your love for GrowElf in about 20% of your very few posts. Buckets are buckets! Roots wont grow more in a 5 gallon bucket than they will in a 2.5 or 3.5 gallon bucket. It just takes up more space under a light allowing you less plants. Unless you veg yours for at least 8 or 12 weeks, a 5 gallon bucket wont do you any good.

But I'm happy you love talking about Grow Elf and the first person to jump on you for your advertisements you ask if they are bleeding! LOL @ You sir. I hope you sell lots for them!

Later =P
sorry if my rag comment was hash, but maybe i spend more time managing plants then i spend posting. im not selling anything, im a consumer passing on info about good equipment. in an industry that takes advantage of as many people as possible, selling shit products im simply trying to pass on good info for fellow growers. not sucking their dicks as you put it. i dont know when you got so angry, but i remember you asking about the brain part of the growelf back in april. sooo, you with your almost 900 posts sounds as if you are growing your post count not plants. maybe im wronge. sorry, if im wrong. i will work on pics and post count asap.
again, sorry about the spelling but my plants dont mind
 

ears

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5 Gallon Hydroarm bucket and some roots @ 40 days into Veg...Can you trim roots or do you just let'em go???


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i have cut back roots on small plants, only iin my ez cloner. only as an experiment, and it was on a round of grape ape. the results were... the plant i cut stoped growing until the rooots started to grow again. this took about 3 days. i did this because my veg plants were not ready to move to flower yet. so this worked to slow the growth, to pause them to some exstent. hope that helps. how big is the top of this plant?
 

xceptional

Active Member
Nice video xceptional, +rep.

Couple questions:
1. How long did you veg? Seed or Clone?
2. Nute system?
3. Strain?
4. Supercrop? FEM? Top? They look pretty natural.

That looks like a great height for this system. Thanks for the lighter tip.

well this response is late as hell but i dont come here much

1. all clone, 4 week veg
2. i've ran Lucas and House and Garden Aqua Flakes i'm running Lucas again H&G is not worth the extra money IMO for the whole line but i'll run roots excel with lucas base in the future for sure.
3. NL#5 was that grow now i'm on to others.
4. nothing at all ran them all natural.
 

axl

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what do you guys do when running multiple strains as far as flushing plants goes? Even growing the same sttrain from seed will have different phenos finishing at different times
 

bowlfullofbliss

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what do you guys do when running multiple strains as far as flushing plants goes? Even growing the same sttrain from seed will have different phenos finishing at different times

It can be tough if they don't finish around the same time. The trick is accepting your going to fuck up the first time. You have to figure out which ones can go together, both for finishing times, and the amount of EC they can take, and PH levels. Height is also a problem, as most of us that have bigger grows have lights that are the same heigth.

I have 4 strains I grow. My WW and LA Woman go great together, and my heavy duty fruity and sour diesel go great together. That's how I run them. I have gotten rid of my strawberry haze, it takes too long, and doesn't give me the weight I need.

As for seed, what I do is start the number of seeds I can grow in my pots. I veg them, and judge which two of each strain I think will be the best, using my experience to help judge. I kill off the rest, take clones from those two, plant those clones keeping the mothers alive. Than I take more clones from those mothers, kill them, and have a set of mothers all the same size. Once I decide which one of the two is the best, the other dies, and presto whamo, I have the genes I want.

Hope that helps!
 

mrduke

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does anyone see a problem with running 36 plants under 4000w with one res. or would i be better of getting another whole system the system is 400 bucks and 3 expension kits are 180 or so. So for 200 bucks is it worth it?
 

researchkitty

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does anyone see a problem with running 36 plants under 4000w with one res. or would i be better of getting another whole system the system is 400 bucks and 3 expension kits are 180 or so. So for 200 bucks is it worth it?
36 plants under 4000w of light is the same ratio of lights to plants as I run now. 3.5 gallon buckets work the best, space em 9 per, veg them for 3 weeks under a 1000w lamp. My reservoir for these 36 plants is 55 gallons, and I have to top it off by about 10-15 gallons towards the end of flowering when they are drinking a lot.

If you are able to monitor the water levels and top off accordingly, no issue. If you can only check on your plants once or twice a week, dont do it and get a 75-100 gallon res.
 
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