giving defoliation during flower a try

pk_boosted2 said:

roots execlleratur

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RE is snake oil. Throw all the tantrums you want, chant a thousand times how great it is, it's one of the best examples of snake oil in the cannabis industry.

And again, if you bothered to read replies instead of repeating promotional nonsense Canna feeds you, I buy H&G because I just happen to be able to get it very cheap and because the ratio works for my setup. I also only use the base nutes, not of those bs products (I tried almost all though...)

And I also posted something about the history of H&G... while their PK13-14 is just jumping on the bandwagon, Van der zwaan created nutes decades before Canna ever smoked canna...

If u read posts like i said before im not even using canna right now im using soul synthetics by aurora im trying dif things c if anything better than canna as of the past 10 years doing thisni havent found anything yet

Ninjabowler said:

i agree with this. I dont want to waste money on nutrients. I like to use the least possible just like everybody else. But with the worth of our product and the amount of people producing it i obviously want to stand out as a step above the people who get mediocre results. The product pays for the setup and if it didnt the loss of revenue would force miracle grow on every producer. If i have to spend a couple more bucks to achieve the best possible results i will. Its what keeps us ahead of the game. Second place is the first looser right?

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That's why I still buy (the cheapest) bottles at a growshop instead of mixing my own or look for a non-cannabis-specific company's alternative. I pay $20 in nutes for about half a kilo mj. $20 gets me 1.5 gram in a coffeeshop...

Oh u doin little kid grows u harvest a pound at a time ? Lol i thought u were doin real grows sorry was confused by how u been talkin

pk_boosted2 said:

If u read posts like i said before im not even using canna right now im using soul synthetics by aurora im trying dif things c if anything better than canna as of the past 10 years doing thisni havent found anything yet

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Calculate the NPK and all the other essential elements of the Canna bottles you used, work that out in a schedule, and you can stop searching for better salts...

Sorry i dont focus on npk ratios period, i read my plants thats why i run complete nutrient lines i dont need worry about any of that bs lol

I couldnt tell you what the npk ratio of anything i do is

pk_boosted2 said:

If u read posts like i said before im not even using canna right now im using soul synthetics by aurora im trying dif things c if anything better than canna as of the past 10 years doing thisni havent found anything yet

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Ok, Pk, i really am in need of gear like today and have to get something pronto. Id love to start trying your style. I already run drain to waste in ffof but its time to change it up.
Give me a list of things for my grow medium to pick up. Pro mix, peat? And nutes, im fresh outta what i ran last grow so i need more. Canna, what kinds? Boosters, anything else? You name it im getting it. This will be fun

I run botanicare in veg.. Sunshine #4 great medium to use

Ph 6.0-6.3 until flowering

Have to talk more later got go do some work at one of my places ill catch up w u in a few hours whnpen i get back

Ok so sunshine # 4 and botanicare veg? Thats it? Cummon bro, i gotta repot today! Help a brother out

Oh sure, if you have 2 or 4 bulbs the plants nutrients regime changes entirely. It's just more of the same. You think you've seen it all as a growstore owner but you have no clue about plants. Let me illustrate:

pk_boosted2 said:

Sorry i dont focus on npk ratios period, i read my plants thats why i run complete nutrient lines i dont need worry about any of that bs lol

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Now there you have it folks. NPK ratios is just bullshit. As long as it has everything in it, it doesn't matter how much of it is in it...

It just doesn't get any more wrong than that. GHE, H&G, Dyna gro and many others are all complete. There's a limit to how complete nutrients can be. Canna is nothing special.

@Ninjabowler: sure you can see now how full of shit this guy is... if the ratio is irrelevant...



FYI: with that comment you lost the debate about nutrients to a point there's no coming back.

Sativied said:

That's why I still buy (the cheapest) bottles at a growshop instead of mixing my own or look for a non-cannabis-specific company's alternative. I pay $20 in nutes for about half a kilo mj. $20 gets me 1.5 gram in a coffeeshop...

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I think i spent like 50 bucks maybe 60 the last run. My shop guys couldnt believe it lol. I wanna step it up though.

Yes. Botanicare pure blend pro grow, liquid karma, vitamino, silica blast, hydroguard, and cal-mag but use GH organic the botanjcare is synthetic and that kills microbes!! Then ph to 6.0-6.3 and add great white at with the spoon they give u at 1 spoonful per 10 gallon of water

Always keep an eye on the plants and their needs usually run about 7 ml/gal of the grow- liquid karma and the calmag, use 5 ml/gal of vitamino, silica and 2 ml/gal of hydroguard

Always add silica blast first!

Ppm should be roughly 800-900 for most of veg i up to 1000 before flowering to make sure i got enough nitrogen carry through bloom and tranisition phase

pk_boosted2 said:

Dyna gro is for vegetables

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Hate those vegetable nutrients...





If Canna's supposed cannabis-specific nutrients can be used to grow tomatoes and other vegetables, are perhaps vegetable nutrients also suitable for growing cannabis

It's all the same shit, just in different ratios. And to milk out your disregard about NPK ratios some more:

Canna grabbed their initial piece of the market by creating Terra vega and flores, i.e. a separate bottle with a different ratio supposedly more suitable for the flowering period. That little irrelevant thing called NPK ratio is at the very foundation of your master's product. If you don't care about the ratio, you might as well agree with UncleBen and use veg nutes throughout the entire run.

I thought Canna was from origin from Spain but ok..., I know they have a few "research labs" across the globe.... there are thousands in a billion dollar industry... the food industry. Cannabis is just a plant.

I also use fulvex at 15 ml/gal at every feeding as well thats also from botanicare

In bloom i usually run canna organic line or the substra whatever u want too do..

Botanicare also great product dont get me wrong just gonna be able yield more w canna over botanicare bcuz botanicare pure blend series is organic but you can get great quality off of it as well no issues w them whatsoever.. One of my customers just did a white berry kush and black diesel w botanicare bases and added b52 from advanced w roots excel from h&g up until week 2 in bloom and then during peak flower initiation he added atami's bloombastic to harden flowers and ripen and lemme tell u his shit was the bomb

Yeah canna makes nutrients for fruits and veggies.. But u like these other companies call their support line and tell em what you are doing and they will break down everything they know how much to feed what too add they cant tell u how many weeks ur vsrieties are they are open and honest about their products.. Canna and advnced are only 2 companies i know who have support lines specifically to talk about cannabis cultivation call any of these other comoanies u mention marijuana they hang up the phone that shud tell u something right there