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doc111 said:

Ok, I'll concede the mythbusters argument was a bit weak, but it was also an attempt at humor, which seems to have been completely lost on you. Go figure. The fact is that nobody, and I mean NOBODY, could ever recreate the thing. There is supposedly a patent and plans for it yet nobody has ever built a working replica. Why is that? Yeah, we're the dumb ones.

http://www.rexresearch.com/teslamos/tmosc.htm

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Archimides "death ray" was supposedly made from mirrors reflecting the sun. The Navy's "death ray" is a fucking laser beam dude! Big difference!

kind of like saying a molotov cocktail is the same as a nuclear missile
or saying my pos truck is just like a hummer
when i reality is more like a bummer

doc111 said:

Archimides "death ray" was supposedly made from mirrors reflecting the sun. The Navy's "death ray" is a fucking laser beam dude! Big difference!

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doc111 said:

Might this have something to do with Tesla's claims to have invented some sort of perpetual motion device?

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No it's this:
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Yes I missed your humor doc111. There's not much funny about this subject. Nobody has ever built a working one? Why bother, it's seriously old technology which requires a device on site whereas new technology like HAARP which exists and we spent billions on, which you can find online and in public records, and many countries have, can beam the same effect around the globe without hardware on site with radio waves. Tesla found a means to create the effect and then over the course of nearly 100 years we're way beyond his original ideas. The US and Russia's investment in theirs is just an excercise in futility for fun right, to disprove something that doesn't work like mythbusters on crack, probably because we are so rich and have money to burn.

This doesn't exist:

Neither does this Russian one which still looks exactly like a Tesla invention, except on steroids:

And you can see it not working, they just like to burn megawatts for fun:

OregonMeds said:

No it's this:
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Yes I missed your humor doc111. There's not much funny about this subject. Nobody has ever built a working one? Why bother, it's seriously old technology which requires a device on site whereas new technology like HAARP which exists and we spent billions on, which you can find online and in public records, and many countries have, can beam the same effect around the globe without hardware on site with radio waves. Tesla found a means to create the effect and then over the course of nearly 100 years we're way beyond his original ideas. The US and Russia's investment in theirs is just an excercise in futility for fun right, to disprove something that doesn't work like mythbusters on crack, probably because we are so rich and have money to burn.

This doesn't exist:

Neither does this Russian one which still looks exactly like a Tesla invention, except on steroids:

And you can see it not working, they just like to burn megawatts for fun:

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Why bother? lmfao!!!!!! Yes, why would we want to recreate such an important invention? Why indeed? I never said HAARP didn't exist, I just don't believe it causes earthquakes. And what do those pictures prove? Perhaps that someone knows how to use photoshop or build scary looking Frankenstein devices? I'm not saying that's the case with these photos, I can't say, but I'm willing to bet that you can't either with any real certainty. Have fun with your conspiracies.

I had never looked into conspiracy theories, never read a book on them or watched a movie about it until the shit started hitting the fan with our economy, strange decisions were made like sb510 outlawing individuals rights to grow their own food, and foreign policy decisions seemed so insane that the only outcome could be completely pissing off the entire muslim population leading to the destruction of our country as we know it either through economic collapse aka russia in afghanistan or whatever.

Then I started to ignore everything said on TV news, research bills on my own online, and look for some truth and the actual text of government documents rather than soundbytes. Only in researching absurd legislation did I keep continually finding hits to conspiracy theory stuff which unfortunately all seems to actually check out even though on the surface it is so absurd most will never believe it. Either it's all very very true, or someone seriously wants us to believe it's true.

Since I have found that global warming turns out to be a real factor in all this behind the scenes and have found Nasa has been aware of polar shifts to come since the 80's, and since these changes are not limited to our planet but every body in our solar system I tend to believe they see the end coming and the gloves are off and everything goes at this point in a mad race to survive because they know we're all basically screwed anyway.

I am ex Army Infantry 11bravo and 31kilo, ex Microsoft and Novell Senior Network Engineer, and while no genius by any stretch of the imagination my mind isn't closed to any possibility so I found the answers in the denver airport murals confirming all the crazy conspiracy stuff.

Like I said perhaps they just want us to believe it's a conspiracy, but that in itself is a conspiracy too then due to the depths of how far this goes.

If you look up what data NASA has finally released about what will happen in 2012 with polar shifts (part of which has already occurred, poles already shifted slightly but more is to come, that too you can verify on youtube) and when you see that our own satellites have confirmed a couple very large holes in our magnetosphere since then which are absolutely necessary to protect us then it all starts to make sense. We are to die off while the lucky few try to continue on underground.

I have been stalked personally by homeland security or their lackies for 3 days previously and threatened a couple times subtlely for saying anything online. I really think that's the last confirmation I need. I must admit I did offer to maintain silence in email in exchange for a simple deal and heard nothing in return, though surveillance did go away at that point up until phone calls today after posting what I have above. When you stop hearing from me any longer, then you'll know I'm gone.

I still don't know what is true of all of it myself like I said, but there are enough things that are true like sb510 that it clearly doesn't look good. When we the people can't legally grow our own food any more, even if not selling or transferring it, there is no other way to take it but badly.

Now I still suggest my government make me that deal so I shut up. All I asked for is for them to lift my bullshit .08 DUI, then I will live out my days quietly and in peace. Costs them nothing, and is so very simple. There is absolutely no way to fight this at this point, there's just too much against us. All I want is to live life to it's fullest as we all should in whatever time we have left... Maybe it's all scare tactics to push another election fraud. Maybe it's all just designed to bring on a fake civil war which the people can't possibly wincal opposition any more, or so they can thin the herd before the big tsunami when the poles may shift the full 180degrees as has happened in the past but either way there is a cover up and that only leaves conspiracy theorists right one way or the other.

Here I have a quake warning for my area of portland oregon ahead of time for a 9.0 earthquake sometime after japan lasting 5 minutes. Is that natural that people would say this stuff, or is just the saying of it a conspiracy on it's own designed to provoke panic and bring marshall law? And why too did Obama say we would have marshall law the next day each time if his budgets and bailouts weren't passed?
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It's a fight we can't win... If you follow news, even propaganda tv you will see that publicly announced one of the first things they will shut down in a government shutdown is the Center for Disease Control. Contrast that to real labs making bio warfare all over the US and Nuclear plants not shutting down in advance of this publicly admitted ring of fire earthquake threat, then against what the denver airport murals clearly show and it all comes together. The idea that millions of people would be trying to break down the doors of underground shelters wouldn't be good for it's occupants, and in the interests of the continuation of the human race if they believe what I think they do, then it all seems to add up. So anyway I'm not threatening a fight, and to be honest I am still offering my silence to them because all my talking may do is to panic the weak minded unnecessarily, and cause unnecessary deaths prematurely. I just want to live fully before I go, and that means for my record to be completely cleared and for me to be completely left alone in peace, preferrably immune and unnafected by a manufactured disease.

I don't even care if they keep tabs on me from a distance, or stick me on a no fly list, I'm sure I'm already on it, but just make the deal and let me be... They know who I am and exactly where to find me.

You seem to care thoroughly about this. I must say. Your pictures prove nothing. There is no proof to be held in them. They are just pictures of things. No way to prove their contents.

The Cryptkeeper said:

You seem to care thoroughly about this. I must say. Your pictures prove nothing. There is no proof to be held in them. They are just pictures of things. No way to prove their contents.

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That's what I'm sayin'.

well i got a picture so this does exist?

The Cryptkeeper said:

You seem to care thoroughly about this. I must say. Your pictures prove nothing. There is no proof to be held in them. They are just pictures of things. No way to prove their contents.

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There are new fears that Tokyo is now due for the Big One since it is overdue.

If Tokyo gets a large quake then that will really be a problem.

How is that? Go through a huge Earth quake and tsunami and then that only increases the chances of a big earthquake for Tokyo.

If Japan could get up and move I'd say they should start shopping for a new place.

Ernst said:

There are new fears that Tokyo is now due for the Big One since it is overdue.

If Tokyo gets a large quake then that will really be a problem.

How is that? Go through a huge Earth quake and tsunami and then that only increases the chances of a big earthquake for Tokyo.

If Japan could get up and move I'd say they should start shopping for a new place.

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Dude. Don't fucking say that.

The Cryptkeeper said:

Dude. Don't fucking say that.

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Sorry I just watched Al-Jazeera and it was a news segment. I'm not promoting bad things for Japan.. I truly feel for Japan.. They are worried and if it does hit Tokyo I believe it's an economic heart of Japan.

No Fingers crossed it doesn't happen.

The pictures prove only that something exists which they obviously have spent an awful lot of money on. If you wanted to know more about what it is, and see it in action and track it's history in use you would only need to look into it yourselves on youtube. The evidence is overwhelming that either it exists and works and has been in use since pre haiti and cristchurch or that it exists but doesn't actually work and they are just taking credit for a natural phenominon which they knew about ahead of time but they want us to fear.

It's not hard to see either option, if you look into it. There are video's posted every single day showing radar anomolies just a couple days ahead of severe weather formations across the US, with the posters able to accurately predict each and every major storm over the US as of late and precisely where they will hit, so look or don't look it's up to you.


I have seen and read everything publicly available on this topic, and continue to every single day. If I'm wrong I loose nothing, but If I'm right at least I'm not blindsided and I much prefer knowing what's going on to not.

The powers that be have made a grievous error though. They should look into the scientific studies which show it is a proven fact that disease passes right through diseased tissue and is transferred to DNA in completely hermetically sealed containers/ rock/ sheilding/anything, given certain wavelengths of radiation. If they truly want to save their own asses and even a portion of the human race, then they'd better very very quickly rethink that part of the plan. The current plan that seems to be in place ensures their destruction as well as our own, no matter how deep they are in underground bunkers because they haven't paid attention quite enough to all the little details.. If they don't remedy that part instantly and destroy all bio warfare which could harm them, and that is leaked topside at any point it doesn't matter how long they stay underground because their own destruction by their own hand is guaranteed practically as quickly as ours topside. It's counter intuitive to think disease can pass this way, through sealed containers with no physical or environmental contact whatsoever, but I assure you it does just as fast as you can pass signals through the earth you will imprint yourselves with disease of your own creation. Just ask your scientists what can pass through what, and ask them exactly how much empty space actually exists in all things we typically think of as solid. Nothing is solid on this earth at a sub molecular level, there is only tiny amounts of energy with vast amounts of empty space in each atom so there is nothing to protect you down there if you make this one mistake. Ask someone familiar with quantum physics.

You'd better ask the right people, and change the plan really quick before it's too late.

I clearly don't care what the naysayers think. I know this is all so out there that almost nobody will believe it and that too is part of the plan clearly. That's why they can do it. I especially don't care what all of you think who haven't read or researched a god damn thing, but I do feel I have to speak up since I see that I have nothing to loose either way even at the cost of my own life since as it stands I will obviously die soon anyway.

When you see the earthquake outside of portland hit as predicted or when I disappear from this site you will all know the truth. If I just delete some posts and stop talking about this but still am clearly myself on here then only the most perceptive of you will suspect that maybe I was right, and I got my deal.

I think that this is the wrong thread or I missed the connect on that post totally oregonmeds

Oregon, you make it sound like we're all doomed.

sounds like the evening news all doom and gloom
they just sell fear

DelSlow said:

Oregon, you make it sound like we're all doomed.

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A lot of weird shit does happen everyday that people are not aware of. Anyone remember the missile that was shot off the coast of California last year that no one will fess up to?

what never heard
what do u mean no one will fess up i thought the us govt was only ones had missiles in usa how can u say my bad wasnt me just looked like my missiles

NoDrama said:

A lot of weird shit does happen everyday that people are not aware of. Anyone remember the missile that was shot off the coast of California last year that no one will fess up to?

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NoDrama said:

A lot of weird shit does happen everyday that people are not aware of. Anyone remember the missile that was shot off the coast of California last year that no one will fess up to?

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Yes indeed I do.

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What I REALLY want to know, is the answer to something that really wasn't explained!!

Perhaps they do just sell fear, if so they sell it very well...

Delslow we all knew when we were born that we were destined to die, it's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things even though it may sound terrifying. You will most likely shrug this off as a crazy conspiracy theorists wacky rantings and at most may suffer a single bad dream. If however you do decide to look into this proposed doom and gloom any further then absolutely make sure to also look into the ideas of eternal consciousness. (Which has nothing to do with organized religion) and everything to do with the energy that simply makes up us, our thoughts and who we really are. There's more to us than a brain with goo which is chemically run, which is what I used to believe too, and that includes everything living around us. Even the end of this existence is actually never the end of anything, only the end of the "matrix" we are used to. I am an atheist in respect to religions, but that doesn't mean I don't understand eternal consciousness which is one of the only few things most people intuitively know, and by all means if you look into anything which scares you, look into that to alleviate any and all fear. Steer clear of anything that claims there is only one way to salvation, or anything with a hint of control of your mind written into it like crisitanity, islam, etc. Go for Mayan, Inca, Hopi (love Hopi), even new age stuff much they all agree on.

You would be amazed at how much of all this is prophesied step by step, especially by the Hopi Indians, and that will give you comfort because if they knew all they obviously did, and it's all coming true step by step right before your eyes, than you can surely trust they got eternal consciousness right too.

We could have avoided all this if we had only listened to the Hopi, Mayans, etc, and not just killed them and enslaved them in the matrix. The hopi consider this the most fortunate time to be alive and an honor and a privledge no matter what happens. Also know that nothing is destined even still. Maybe the powers that be will see there's no way to win this course of events and do an about face just to keep all us crazy conspiracy theorists looking like only that and nothing more. Maybe they'll go broke and loose enough support to do anything... Maybe all the people they have bought and brainwashed with hate and fear will all turn on them when push comes to shove. Nobody actually knows.

I have already pointed out that their plan doesn't work, even if they try to carry it out as planned but who knows if that info will get to the right people. They should research the Hopi teachings on youtube as well since it's never too late to fix the problem and actually all they all need is to be freed from their brainwashing and helped to be free themselves which they aren't. They've been completely mislead into their own destruction without even realizing it. I wonder why...And by who...

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Make the best of every day now more than ever, and just know it's never the end for any of us. Refuse to live in fear or panic because above all that's the worst thing for you, and the worst thing for us all, and fear is above all what "they" want from us.

We can all still affect the outcome of this, and without war or bullets or killing, we just need the change of consciousness the hopi, mayans, basically everyone told us about before this corporate controlled world of destruction we have all been sold on. Change from fearing and hating eachother to seeing things as they really are, cast off racism and corporatism and greed and envy, think for others even those different from you like you would yourselves or your loved ones and spread that kind of emotion through the world, it's not too late.

[video]http://www.katoniahouse.com/astral-video/astral2a.swf[/video]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_projection

http://www.amazon.com/Projection-Astral-Body-Sylvan-Muldoon/dp/0766146049

Crazy shit.