No, Not All Of Them, Just One
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Jeffdt1966
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no doubt ... time to think about the next term : )
Illegal Smile
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Some people have a hard time coming to grips with the fact that they've been duped. I agree though, that Obama is such a miserable failure (his approval just hit another new low), that his ineligibility for the office isn't even close to the top of the list of his crimes. He's the first president in history who actually had the goal of presiding over america's decline, and he has done just that. You want to know what the issue in 2012 will be, no matter who runs, there it is - the decline of America.
BudMcLovin
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Illegal your name wouldn’t be inspired by John Prine by any chance?
[video=youtube;pqNPFCp2-B8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqNPFCp2-B8[/video]
MuyLocoNC
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I disagree completely, it is a very valid point and may have dire consequences for his reelection bid. If 6 or 7 states REQUIRE all of the candidates to provide the very document he has thus far refused to produce, it could get real interesting. And to every one of you clowns that keep saying he has produced his official birth certificate, I suggest you learn the facts of the debate you're involved in and/or get your faces out of the Huffington Post and all those other progressive, scumbag, traitorous sources that tell you it doesn't matter anyways.wow ... At this point it wouldnt matter if he was born on the moon .. it's a mute point . Obama is Obama no matter where he fell out of his mothers vga at . Love him or hate him- he is the president and no amount of drama spewing from either side is gonna change that this far into his term . Quit wasting your time arguing about it and go check your plants ph and look under the leaves good for bugs ...
londonfog
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what is an official birth certificate to you ????because a certificate of live birth is as official as you can get if you do not have the original one that you got at birth..maybe you should understand the argument
Let me see I myself do not have my original ...had to get what they call now certificate of birth ...has it right on the top (looking at it now )..also has a seal..hmmmm..just like your POTUS...with mine I was able to get...Passport...Drivers licence...Social Security Card..among other things...with his he became POTUS..what does your say on the top ???? Now I do remember seeing my original long ago when I was a youngster...I remember I used to mess with my mother about being born so early..my original had the time I was born...this one does not...again what does yours say ???
MuyLocoNC
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It's amazing that you continue to make the same statement/inquiry, when I've read it answered at least 3 times on this very thread. As illegal and Drama have pointed out, even if you "LOSE" yours, the state does not. If you were running for office and needed verification from the state you were born in, they could produce it. According to the Governor or Hawaii, who was supporting Obama, Hawaii could not produce it. Enough with the games and double-talk, even though I know that's all you have in your arsenal, make a point that hasn't already been destroyed several times or move along.
I still think Obama is a citizen, he may not be a natural born citizen and that may make his presidency fraudulent, time will tell. But, as I stated earlier, it could make for an interesting hiccup in 2012.
I still think Obama is a citizen, he may not be a natural born citizen and that may make his presidency fraudulent, time will tell. But, as I stated earlier, it could make for an interesting hiccup in 2012.
mame
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Mmk, you realize that it is the birthers - not the progressives - who are the butt of the joke in this, right? Yes, I said it. This "debate" is a joke.
Obama is a citizen. It's been proven. It is not a conspiracy.
MuyLocoNC
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Yes, we hear you with the same tactic the left ALWAYS uses. Mock and condescend. You douchebags (especially fitting in your case) can play your game all you want, the public isn't buying that sh!t anymore.
Obama is a citizen, most likely. It HAS NOT been proven. It may or may not be a conspiracy, remains to be seen. What you don't seem to understand or don't want to acknowlede is, people are long past caring about your insults and condescension, it used to work, not anymore. You're gonna have to work a little harder these days to win the argument...sorry.
Obama is a citizen, most likely. It HAS NOT been proven. It may or may not be a conspiracy, remains to be seen. What you don't seem to understand or don't want to acknowlede is, people are long past caring about your insults and condescension, it used to work, not anymore. You're gonna have to work a little harder these days to win the argument...sorry.
mame
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What game? I have presented facts, including pictures, for your apparently thick skull.
What you dont seem to understand, or dont want to acknowledge is - you've already lost this argument... You can tell because you seem to think that it "HAS NOT been proven" when the evidence is right there in front of your face. Frankly, it's clear to me that you know very little on the subject or even how to debate it(hint: if you're going to argue against the facts that I've presented maybe you should provide a reputable source).
mame
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a "certificate of live birth" is Hawaii's equivalent of a "birth certificate". There is no other document that he needs. Seriously, it amazes me the absolute idiocy of some people.
I'm done with you. You have failed to disprove anything I've said and it's clear all you have to say is the same mindless rhetoric and talking points that have been disproven by every objective political observer with any credibility (including politifact).
I'm done with you. You have failed to disprove anything I've said and it's clear all you have to say is the same mindless rhetoric and talking points that have been disproven by every objective political observer with any credibility (including politifact).
MuyLocoNC
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You keep putting forth the same argument about that document as if it hasn't already been presented and rejected. Why don't you read through this thread again and actually see what has been said. I understand you were mentally "short changed" and can't seem to grasp the obvious. I'll try one more time...THAT DOCUMENT IS INSUFFICIENT, IT IS NOT HAWAII'S EQUIVALENT OF A "BIRTH CERTIFICATE". There SHOULD be an original COB that stays on file forever. The Governor of Hawaii tried to find that ACTUAL COB, and failed miserably.
You don't seem to understand the argument, but that's not surprising, you're a liberal lemming. If the HUFF or NY/LA Times doesn't tell you something, it can't be valid, right?
And politifact seems to be wrong consistently, as in the biggest lie of the year. Or did you miss that too?
You don't seem to understand the argument, but that's not surprising, you're a liberal lemming. If the HUFF or NY/LA Times doesn't tell you something, it can't be valid, right?
And politifact seems to be wrong consistently, as in the biggest lie of the year. Or did you miss that too?
mame
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hahahahaha
Optic1
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Obama's first act as president was signing a law or order sealing presidential records. you will never see them unless someone spills the beans. but if they do it's a felony. so we will never see that goof balls records. if you dont have anything to hide why hide it. if he is president and he is not qualified the he broke the law. so you tell me why he sealed his records.
mame
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Listen, it is not an effective argument to make an assertion that simply is not true. Polifact is consistently on the ball and that document is literally the legal equivalent of a Birth Certificate. The only difference between the original is that it would have said who his physician was... So...
Here's another angle for you, because it's clear you wont listen to anything I say about the stupid peice of paper (that happens to be legit).
Here's another angle for you, because it's clear you wont listen to anything I say about the stupid peice of paper (that happens to be legit).
I dont know how much clearer it could possibly get.
Optic1
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Q: Why won't Obama release his real birth certificate?
A: The ink isn't dry yet.
Q, Whats Obama's new slogan in these tough times?
A. Spare Change You Can Believe In!
Q: What does Simba and Obama have in common?
A: One is an African Lion and the other one is a lyin African!
Q: Did you hear about Obama's plan to end unemployment?
A: He's gonna expand the NBA to 32,000 teams!
A: The ink isn't dry yet.
Q, Whats Obama's new slogan in these tough times?
A. Spare Change You Can Believe In!
Q: What does Simba and Obama have in common?
A: One is an African Lion and the other one is a lyin African!
Q: Did you hear about Obama's plan to end unemployment?
A: He's gonna expand the NBA to 32,000 teams!