I was just just going to leave as is thr bug damage looks contained it used to be worse but i removed most infected parts. Im not too worried though cause the damage looks slow before when i had aphids it used to be really bad but hopefully it doesnt progress. Knowing my luck though im better off spraying
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colocowboy
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And it’s the last chance since you don’t want to treat the buds. Best to be proactive.
Yea true. Imma have to look closer for damage and bugs but the damage is easy to spot leaves just get a bunch of white spots on um and it was spreading but not anymore
colocowboy
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my fingers are crossed for you!
kratos015
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This. Never such thing as being "too proactive".
If you use spinosad then you can spray even with buds. Spinosad is simply a form of bacteria I believe, so you can spray with it up until harvest and it's non-toxic to humans and animals.
I also make a spray out of habaneros and spray with that up until the last week of flower.
The spinosad is for preventative measures. Any bug that comes into contact with the spinosad bacteria is literally eaten alive.
The habanero spray is for straight extinction. Watch those spider mites and caterpillars try and survive eating habanero covered leaves. They'll straight stop eating, then die.
Edit: Btw, looking good! GYOseeds by chance? I have the same freebie seed that I've yet to use, maybe next outdoor season!
googled the pests i have to me it looks like Lace Bugs. i guess the black specs i see are the feces but i dont see a lot of the bugs in general just a bunch of black specs they dont seem to affect much though since i keep removing the leaves that are infected already and usually find one or 2 on that very same leaf. i could spray tbh would be a lot easier now when it is in the net but i sprayed before when i introduced the male plants long ago. didn't spray good enough i guess
yes from GYO i only buy from GYO for now.
July 31
trimmed underneath a bit removed leaves that wouldn't do shit and branches that didn't make it to the top of the net. only removed about 4-5 branches total. removed LOTS of infested leaves though as well as burnt leaves/damaged leaves from the fan. there was a LOT of bugs though in total i'd say i removed about 50 leaves. tried to remove all that i see that looked infested.
she should do fine though. idk how well of a job i did when it comes to lollipopping as im not too sure how far down to lollipop in general so i left some growth below the net on just incase but i will be cleaning it up over time as she flowers. today i did a good trim job i'd say now i just need to keep up with it over flowering and she should produce decent yields for my skills.
she does look very bare in general though almost looks like i schwazzed her but i didn't. if i wanted to i could but to me that kinda defeats the purpose of the net. im just going to let her grow as is recover then trim again still lots of places i can trim but left more on just incase the bugs come back not gonna spray just gonna see what happens
trimmed underneath a bit removed leaves that wouldn't do shit and branches that didn't make it to the top of the net. only removed about 4-5 branches total. removed LOTS of infested leaves though as well as burnt leaves/damaged leaves from the fan. there was a LOT of bugs though in total i'd say i removed about 50 leaves. tried to remove all that i see that looked infested.
she should do fine though. idk how well of a job i did when it comes to lollipopping as im not too sure how far down to lollipop in general so i left some growth below the net on just incase but i will be cleaning it up over time as she flowers. today i did a good trim job i'd say now i just need to keep up with it over flowering and she should produce decent yields for my skills.
she does look very bare in general though almost looks like i schwazzed her but i didn't. if i wanted to i could but to me that kinda defeats the purpose of the net. im just going to let her grow as is recover then trim again still lots of places i can trim but left more on just incase the bugs come back not gonna spray just gonna see what happens
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colocowboy
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Looks good, generally it’s the bottom 1/3 for lollipop but it’s one of those judgement things. When you spray do tops and bottoms of leaves!
yea i didn't want to remove too much but i think she is good as is. gonna prolly spray tomorrow didn't expect to get out of work early today
August 1
sprayed the lady with Jacks Dead brew. top and bottom heavily. airing tent out cause it smells bad and lowered the lights dimmer so she wouldn't burn. overall she looking good though shes gonna start budding pretty soon looks like. also gave her 1 gal of water cause she was already dry.
my dads new plant is to no surprise a male. i already can see the balls and they are a good size too. plant is small af though shit looks majorly stunted.
other then that the damn smell is kinda killing me got the fan on in the tent and in my room because my dog is in the room but it's kind of a strong smell imo. windows all open as usual. likely going to start vegging possibly on Monday for flowering nutes.
EDIT- that spray fucked me up good. throat is itchy as hell and nose is constantly running. only thing i've had that did the exact same thing was my moms dogs pancrease powder medicine one whif of that and shit will make your throat itchy and nose runny. it's been idk 2 hours since too. hopefully it settles down but next time i won't be spraying i think or i'll spray outside instead. tried to take a hot shower it kinda helped but the smell still lingering in my room
sprayed the lady with Jacks Dead brew. top and bottom heavily. airing tent out cause it smells bad and lowered the lights dimmer so she wouldn't burn. overall she looking good though shes gonna start budding pretty soon looks like. also gave her 1 gal of water cause she was already dry.
my dads new plant is to no surprise a male. i already can see the balls and they are a good size too. plant is small af though shit looks majorly stunted.
other then that the damn smell is kinda killing me got the fan on in the tent and in my room because my dog is in the room but it's kind of a strong smell imo. windows all open as usual. likely going to start vegging possibly on Monday for flowering nutes.
EDIT- that spray fucked me up good. throat is itchy as hell and nose is constantly running. only thing i've had that did the exact same thing was my moms dogs pancrease powder medicine one whif of that and shit will make your throat itchy and nose runny. it's been idk 2 hours since too. hopefully it settles down but next time i won't be spraying i think or i'll spray outside instead. tried to take a hot shower it kinda helped but the smell still lingering in my room
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colocowboy
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Wear protection bud! Even the pure organic stuff can be dangerous!
Drink lots of water, I hope you get to feeling better!
Drink lots of water, I hope you get to feeling better!
August 2
Surprised as fuck the spray didn't burn my baby. typically whenever i spray my plants homemade or bought they always seem to burn my plants thus why i tend not to want to spray. pics of my ghetto lollipop. tops are filling up slowly with pistils she is definetly not stretching much anymore. could be because i fucked her up good with the trimming but she is healthy enough to bounce back quick.
temps/rh will get fucked for sure humidity might rise we got tropical storms back to back coming supposed to get a lot of rain but idk yet or when both gonna miss us but just lots of rain. still got the smell in the tent it is strong af smell too from the spray.
EDIT- checked pics from yesterday and today looks like she grew quite a bit given pics are taken at different angles and distances but she grew more then i expected tbh. top surface on todays pic looks dry as well she will get water tomorrow though when i come home from work. not sure when that will be hopefully early
Surprised as fuck the spray didn't burn my baby. typically whenever i spray my plants homemade or bought they always seem to burn my plants thus why i tend not to want to spray. pics of my ghetto lollipop. tops are filling up slowly with pistils she is definetly not stretching much anymore. could be because i fucked her up good with the trimming but she is healthy enough to bounce back quick.
temps/rh will get fucked for sure humidity might rise we got tropical storms back to back coming supposed to get a lot of rain but idk yet or when both gonna miss us but just lots of rain. still got the smell in the tent it is strong af smell too from the spray.
EDIT- checked pics from yesterday and today looks like she grew quite a bit given pics are taken at different angles and distances but she grew more then i expected tbh. top surface on todays pic looks dry as well she will get water tomorrow though when i come home from work. not sure when that will be hopefully early
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yea i usually don't spray but when i do i spray outside but dumb me i sprayed right into the fan and it went right into my face plus i sprayed a lot to make sure i got them all. so far they look good though. i used this stuff before but outside no issues not really worried about myself but our pets as we have a lot of pets indoors but they don't seem affected by it.
August 3
Thought we was gonna get a lot of rain from the storm but it completely missed us the 2nd one might come close to get a lot of rain but humidity right now is terrible in general. says current RH is 60% i call bs it feels at least 80% especially with lack of wind outside.
pineapple doing okay though watered her with 1gal and 4L she took it all having to water right on the 2nd day though once i get to the 3rd day she's pretty damn dry. i don't mind but watering her is getting harder because of the retention. the sacs are getting fat af though these are literally the fattest i've seen um get at this stage usually the size is meh.. maybe half of what you see in the pics not sure if thats cause maybe pollen got to um or what but the male plants didn't even flower but idk if pollen could of came out anyways.
next watering will be on monday with flowering nutes full dosage. see a lot of milipedes in my soil but thats because i composted the soil and the soil was housed outside. idk if i still have any worms left alive in this i assume not from all the salts probably.
gonna try something new this grow im gonna try and force her to turn yellow at the end by not feeding and leeching the soil. no way i can get her to change any other colors though due to the heat and humidity here i read they turn blue/black if it's colder but lol im shit out of luck with that not even in the winter can i get that to happen. i can try by putting ice but i personally don't believe that works in general.
Thought we was gonna get a lot of rain from the storm but it completely missed us the 2nd one might come close to get a lot of rain but humidity right now is terrible in general. says current RH is 60% i call bs it feels at least 80% especially with lack of wind outside.
pineapple doing okay though watered her with 1gal and 4L she took it all having to water right on the 2nd day though once i get to the 3rd day she's pretty damn dry. i don't mind but watering her is getting harder because of the retention. the sacs are getting fat af though these are literally the fattest i've seen um get at this stage usually the size is meh.. maybe half of what you see in the pics not sure if thats cause maybe pollen got to um or what but the male plants didn't even flower but idk if pollen could of came out anyways.
next watering will be on monday with flowering nutes full dosage. see a lot of milipedes in my soil but thats because i composted the soil and the soil was housed outside. idk if i still have any worms left alive in this i assume not from all the salts probably.
gonna try something new this grow im gonna try and force her to turn yellow at the end by not feeding and leeching the soil. no way i can get her to change any other colors though due to the heat and humidity here i read they turn blue/black if it's colder but lol im shit out of luck with that not even in the winter can i get that to happen. i can try by putting ice but i personally don't believe that works in general.
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colocowboy
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She looks set to me, time to pack! I think you were smart to spray. Since you lollipop you can’t fuck around with bugs, a snap infestation will ruin a plant quick in these conditions. Onwards!
yea i can't really leave much growth below down or ontop either way humidity here is too high year round and unless i run a dehumidifier leaving growth on will only cause humidity to rise and cause issues. if i keep my plants outside they actually do better tbh due to massive air flow but then i got to deal with lack of lighting. lots of issues to deal with either way indoors and outdoors. harder for me to grow anything outdoors though since my grandpa owns the house and hates people gardening besides him. funny thing is when we were little we would often grow things for fun and he would intentionally kill our plants. he still does it today to my dads plants and he gets super pissed.
thats another huge project down the line though as when he passes away i will have to take over the garden removing tree's and all that and amending the soil and removing all the trash trapped in the soil that he just buries and assumes it will decompose like plastic candy wrappers. in our culture though we can't touch peoples belongings for quite a long time i think 1-2 years but most of his plants are annuals the big ones are perrenials though like all the tree's. thinking of my next grow already though of growing some banana tree's or fruit tree's in general by using the tent and transplanting outdoors in the future.
August 4
Humidity is crazy right now 63% in my room but due to tent issues im sure tent is slightly higher. fan leaf tips look like they are getting very subtle burns. need to water them tomorrow but overall plant looks exactly the same to me tbh. slightly more vertical growth but outside of that not much pistils coming out compared to yesterday. think im on day 16-18 of flip now so got a few more days to go until that point where i usually see it happening.
i no longer smell anything from the spray which is good. at this rate i think i will be harvesting possibly late september/early october. couldn't find any guidelines for flowering rate but i guess 6-8 weeks 10 at max
if you are wondering why the pic is in white light that is because i found out if i dimmed the light to the lowest setting it shows up white in pics. if it's all the way up at max it's yellow.
Humidity is crazy right now 63% in my room but due to tent issues im sure tent is slightly higher. fan leaf tips look like they are getting very subtle burns. need to water them tomorrow but overall plant looks exactly the same to me tbh. slightly more vertical growth but outside of that not much pistils coming out compared to yesterday. think im on day 16-18 of flip now so got a few more days to go until that point where i usually see it happening.
i no longer smell anything from the spray which is good. at this rate i think i will be harvesting possibly late september/early october. couldn't find any guidelines for flowering rate but i guess 6-8 weeks 10 at max
if you are wondering why the pic is in white light that is because i found out if i dimmed the light to the lowest setting it shows up white in pics. if it's all the way up at max it's yellow.
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August 5
fed almost everything. gave a good dose of voodoo juice just incase my colony died off plus my voodoo juice expired i think so wanting to see if it even works. gave rhino skin again, gave flowering nutes and i started to pump her with some carbs via bud candy instead of carboload and tried giving her big bud early see how it turns out.
overall looking good she's slowly starting to pack on some bud weight im expecting her to be covered in pistils anywhere from sunday to next week. don't smell much maybe cause i sprayed and that did something to the trichomes on the leaves idk.
fed her about 1.5gals 1gal nutes half gal straight tap. i try not to go 2gals cause i know she won't take 2gals and despite the top is dry i know the middle is still decently moist. going to try and take more photo's on bud sights instead of just the top canopy but im waiting for more progress to string along right now is kind of the downtime imo where not much really tends to happen as they transition visually but imma just take pics anyways.
i have not pruned since last time but i see about 2 branches that won't really amount to anything too low and shaded but the nodes themselves are mostly under the net as well only the very tops are near the net so i might chop those off soon idk yet.
CONCERNS - in the 1st pic you can see the leaves are either burning/yellowing from outside in not too bad but im guessing it's either a defiency or too much nitrogen. plant doesn't look extremely dark imo thus i think it might be a defiency. could also be PH issue since i have not PH'd my water this entire grow but the water company claims 7.0 ph water. if it gets worse i will have to look it up but right now i think she is alright. could have been from the spraying as well but doubt it.
fed almost everything. gave a good dose of voodoo juice just incase my colony died off plus my voodoo juice expired i think so wanting to see if it even works. gave rhino skin again, gave flowering nutes and i started to pump her with some carbs via bud candy instead of carboload and tried giving her big bud early see how it turns out.
overall looking good she's slowly starting to pack on some bud weight im expecting her to be covered in pistils anywhere from sunday to next week. don't smell much maybe cause i sprayed and that did something to the trichomes on the leaves idk.
fed her about 1.5gals 1gal nutes half gal straight tap. i try not to go 2gals cause i know she won't take 2gals and despite the top is dry i know the middle is still decently moist. going to try and take more photo's on bud sights instead of just the top canopy but im waiting for more progress to string along right now is kind of the downtime imo where not much really tends to happen as they transition visually but imma just take pics anyways.
i have not pruned since last time but i see about 2 branches that won't really amount to anything too low and shaded but the nodes themselves are mostly under the net as well only the very tops are near the net so i might chop those off soon idk yet.
CONCERNS - in the 1st pic you can see the leaves are either burning/yellowing from outside in not too bad but im guessing it's either a defiency or too much nitrogen. plant doesn't look extremely dark imo thus i think it might be a defiency. could also be PH issue since i have not PH'd my water this entire grow but the water company claims 7.0 ph water. if it gets worse i will have to look it up but right now i think she is alright. could have been from the spraying as well but doubt it.
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August 6
Not sure why photo is sideways but really not much going on easing up on the stretch still yet. slight smell came back. biggest issue so far is the damn bugs came back after spraying. had to remove some leaves because they were pretty damaged. i didn't see any damage yesterday but today i seen a lot. if this continues im not going to bother pruning but remove the damages leaves and consider that pruning as i don't want to prune too many leaves if bugs are eating it as well.
most of the damage is under the net. overall i think plant has done well thus far wish i could run a dehumidifier and AC to drop RH and temps but sadly i cannot. hopefully i get some big buds but im not expecting much
Not sure why photo is sideways but really not much going on easing up on the stretch still yet. slight smell came back. biggest issue so far is the damn bugs came back after spraying. had to remove some leaves because they were pretty damaged. i didn't see any damage yesterday but today i seen a lot. if this continues im not going to bother pruning but remove the damages leaves and consider that pruning as i don't want to prune too many leaves if bugs are eating it as well.
most of the damage is under the net. overall i think plant has done well thus far wish i could run a dehumidifier and AC to drop RH and temps but sadly i cannot. hopefully i get some big buds but im not expecting much
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colocowboy
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Definitely ease up on defoliation, even if leaves are damaged they can still do their job if they are on there, it’s the bugs your wanting gone. Personally I would switch to wiping the adults off with a peroxide rag duly to try and at least keep in check.