Please help a new grower

curious2garden

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OK let's get serious for a moment. MG is not the soil of choice for cannabis growers. But it can work. This is obviously someone who doesn't have the resources many here happen to have. So why not help him? He can begin to work toward optimal his next grow or two.

Let's rescue his grow ok? First he needs to NOT flush he's in moisture control so he will drown that plant if he flushes. Next it's not a Ca/Mg deficiency that happens in the middle of the plant and it is rounder more punctate, rust colored spots. He's both Nitrogen and Potassium deficient.

Time to give that plant a feeding and not overwater. We actually happen to have a guy with a Ph.D. in Biochem who works these boards maybe he will deign to offer the kid some advice on a good nutrient.

I grow completely hydro (coco coir + perlite) and prior to that I ran solely rails (NFT-nutrient film technique). So my nutrient suggestions are hydro focused but very flexible so they would work and they are relatively cheap in the world of cannabis specifics.

Fox Farm has several problems and I agree with Dr. Who not to use it but again I know little about actual soils and the microbiome.

If he pots up I'd go Coco and move to General Hydroponics three part FloraMicro, FloraGro, FloraBloom and add GH's CaliMagic (better Ca to Mg ratio). As for best nutrient ratio let's ask @Bob Zmuda who grows like a gangster what he'd use to get this kid @Deondre to the finish line. Another couple gangsters of growing here are @Gary Goodson and @Diabolical666 if anyone can help this kid save his grow they can. BTW @mr sunshine actually can grow most anything anywhere but I don't know if the bird will help after such idiocy.

@cannabineer you have a Ph.D. in Organic Chem would you like to wax poetic on nutrient ratios? (when you get done teaching that summer school class LOL)

He's not using lights and is carting the plant in and out every day so I'd hold it's growth in what it's in and finish it. Otherwise he risks breakage.

DISCLAIMERS: I am merely an intermediate grower with zero claim to fame. I focus solely on pheno searching and breeding. Use my grow advice at your own risk.
 
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Bareback

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Your bullshit comments about my plants mean fuck all.

You idiots dont even grow weed.
Its easy to tell.

Just a bunch of bored helmet wearing wierdos.

Still remains to be seen.

Where or where are your REAL TIME PICS.
Nowhere because all you have are old pics of your friends grows......its very sad.
You told op your advice was to ( water then transplant ) rookie advice. Transplant after soil dries into wet soil and mist leaves , so roots go looking for the water.

That's a real piece of advice.
 

ALong14U

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FF works. It won't last 2 months with no nutrient. Edited this in - With FF soils, I would add a good heaping 1/2 cup of Dolomite lime to the bag. They tend to be short lived on that. I would add some more perlite (coarse) to that too. A gallon or more! They also tend to carry Fungus gnat eggs in the soil. Be prepared to deal with that.

Nice base soils are all over. Black Gold, Dr. Earth's potting soil, my fav is Potter's Gold - if you can find it in your part of the country.


Just a friendly suggestion ALong......Inda, Bob and Lou know what their doing in a garden.... You might drop the pissing contest....

Don't get frosty and take this as an invite to involve me....I'm only attempting to nicely let you know...

Peace.
Not trying to involve you at all. Just wanted your advice and got it.
Thank you.
 

Dr. Who

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OK let's get serious for a moment. MG is not the soil of choice for cannabis growers. But it can work. This is obviously someone who doesn't have the resources many here happen to have. So why not help him? He can begin to work toward optimal his next grow or two.

Let's rescue his grow ok? First he needs to NOT flush he's in moisture control so he will drown that plant if he flushes. Next it's not a Ca/Mg deficiency that happens in the middle of the plant and it is rounder more punctate, rust colored spots. He's both Nitrogen and Potassium deficient.

Time to give that plant a feeding and not overwater. We actually happen to have a guy with a Ph.D. in Biochem who works these boards maybe he will deign to offer the kid some advice on a good nutrient.

I grow completely hydro (coco coir + perlite) and prior to that I ran solely rails (NFT-nutrient film technique). So my nutrient suggestions are hydro focused but very flexible so they would work and they are relatively cheap in the world of cannabis specifics.

Fox Farm has several problems and I agree with Dr. Who not to use it but again I know little about actual soils and the microbiome.

If he pots up I'd go Coco and move to General Hydroponics three part FloraMicro, FloraGro, FloraBloom and add GH's CaliMagic (better Ca to Mg ratio). As for best nutrient ratio let's ask @Bob Zmuda who grows like a gangster what he'd use to get this kid @Deondre to the finish line. Another couple gangsters of growing here are @Gary Goodson and @Diabolical666 if anyone can help this kid save his grow they can. BTW @mr sunshine actually can grow most anything anywhere but I don't know if the bird will help after such idiocy.

@cannabineer you have a Ph.D. in Organic Chem would you like to wax poetic on nutrient ratios? (when you get done teaching that summer school class LOL)

He's not using lights and is carting the plant in and out every day so I'd hold it's growth in what it's in and finish it. Otherwise he risks breakage.

DISCLAIMERS: I am merely an intermediate grower with zero claim to fame. I focus solely on pheno searching and breeding. Use my grow advice at your own risk.



^^^BINGO^^^

Mainly from pH problems brought on by imbalances and improper Ca levels in the soil (won't buffer for shit - designed for flowers pH needs). Shits low on Mg too.

At this point - I would be inclined to strictly pH my ingoing to 6.7 (helps P uptake) and use a Calcium nitrate based Ca/Mg product. He won't need any more added N then that! P will come around as the pH of the soil comes back up....

Key here is fixing the pH, adding a Ca source to help buffer and watering as little as possible!

There's my help!


 

ALong14U

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No originally it said you'll be cashing in .....in six weeks .....go ahead and change it ....

So that's a no on the Macarena ?
I said laughing to the bank. Never mentioned a cure or anything.
This isnt my first rodeo. Been here done this......
This thread......fore arm nugs.....
Nobody with pics.......then at the end of my 11 weeks.....i keep laughing.
Loving this actually. Love making people eat their words. Kinda a hobby.....but you and your helmet pals keep talking shit. Ill post harvest pics and wont forget to tag you.....and your girlfriends.

For the time being let the good times roll :D
 

ALong14U

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You told op your advice was to ( water then transplant ) rookie advice. Transplant after soil dries into wet soil and mist leaves , so roots go looking for the water.

That's a real piece of advice.
I transplant 24 hours after watering. Into lightly moist soil. Wait 3 days and water to 20 percent run off.
Hardly ever even notice the transplant. But i wait the proper time before hand.
Just because you do some shit different does not mean somebody gives bad advice. I do this every time. It works everytime.

But no. I dont keep 35 plus plants alive for 20 weeks from start to finish with no real problems at all besides mg def once in a while because of the strain variation i have.
Your right i have no clue what im doing....
 

Indacouch

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I was thinking/dreaming about If I did grow...I'd have green houses in let's say California...up in the mountains in the middle of nowhere...I'd grow things like bubba kush,strawberryK...SourD,OGK possibly some banana og ....some SSH would be cool ....I hear SSH can get you real stoned and grow past the roof of a 14 foot tall green house....even grow some dream star and northern lights as freebies from a guy that I would possibly get clones from .....then id meet some really cool people from here and share it with them and enjoy some of there bomb as well ......I'd help handicap people as well as cancer patients ..........Oh,and I'd make things like bubble hash and tinctures ....maybe even meet a polar bear scientist who could make the most delicious,potent,cleanest wax I've ever seen or tasted...........pass out a few fruity pebble ounces to the ones I got love for ..........maybe one day ......and I'd share lots and lots of pictures that would be easy to find if your not a cave man on parole living in uncle Leo's basement ..........like I said though maybe one day ......but when I do grow ,,,it'll be way better than yours.



I won't use miracle grow for sure that's a terrible idea ....even a noob like me knows that.



BTW your infatuation with making fun of the handicap says a lot about your character as a person.....total dick move to make fun of anyone who would have to wear a helmet because of an injury or disability.((smh))
 

ALong14U

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I was thinking/dreaming about If I did grow...I'd have green houses in let's say California...up in the mountains in the middle of nowhere...I'd grow things like bubba kush,strawberryK...SourD,OGK possibly some banana og ....some SSH would be cool ....I hear SSH can get you real stoned and grow past the roof of a 14 foot tall green house....even grow some dream star and northern lights as freebies from a guy that I would possibly get clones from .....then id meet some really cool people from here and share it with them and enjoy some of there bomb as well ......I'd help handicap people as well as cancer patients ..........Oh,and I'd make things like bubble hash and tinctures ....maybe even meet a polar bear scientist who could make the most delicious,potent,cleanest wax I've ever seen or tasted...........pass out a few fruity pebble ounces to the ones I got love for ..........maybe one day ......and I'd share lots and lots of pictures that would be easy to find if your not a cave man on parole living in uncle Leo's basement ..........like I said though maybe one day ......but when I do grow ,,,it'll be way better than yours.



I won't use miracle grow for sure that's a terrible idea ....even a noob like me knows that.



BTW your infatuation with making fun of the handicap says a lot about your character as a person.....total dick move to make fun of anyone who would have to wear a helmet because of an injury or disability.((smh))
Somone who respects others soooo much omg i cant believe you said helmet!
Get the fuck out of here. I am a caregiver ass hole. I supply patients.
You jumped on a band wagon of shit talking and then all the sudden try and play dont make fun of the handicapped?
No matter what you grow or who you help.

You are a dirtbag. Your true colors shined right through your text.

Im a cardholder in a legal state who also caregives for 6 patients.
Their medicine is free......i charge them nothing.......i make my money for the grows from selling my fire to dummys like your friends here.
You sir have no character.
 

Indacouch

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Somone who respects others soooo much omg i cant believe you said helmet!
Get the fuck out of here. I am a caregiver ass hole. I supply patients.
You jumped on a band wagon of shit talking and then all the sudden try and play dont make fun of the handicapped?
No matter what you grow or who you help.

You are a dirtbag. Your true colors shined right through your text.

Im a cardholder in a legal state who also caregives for 6 patients.
Their medicine is free......i charge them nothing.......i make my money for the grows from selling my fire to dummys like your friends here.
You sir have no character.
That makes you a double asshole for making fun of people wearing helmets .....I feel sorry for your patients with a mind set like yours ....do your homework on people before you talk shit .....you look so fucking dumb rite now it's incredible.

Like I said ....keep your mouth shut about handicap people ....get all triggered for me calling you out on it ....just shows even your punk ass knows it's wrong ((smh)) ....and you said it like three fucking times to people ......basically making the correlation between dumb/retarded people wearing helmets as an insult.



So yeah .....be ashamed and fuck you for that .....if you really are a caretaker ....your a even bigger piece of shit for going there .......((sad))
 

curious2garden

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Staff member
Somone who respects others soooo much omg i cant believe you said helmet!
Get the fuck out of here. I am a caregiver ass hole. I supply patients.
You jumped on a band wagon of shit talking and then all the sudden try and play dont make fun of the handicapped?
No matter what you grow or who you help.

You are a dirtbag. Your true colors shined right through your text.

Im a cardholder in a legal state who also caregives for 6 patients.
Their medicine is free......i charge them nothing.......i make my money for the grows from selling my fire to dummys like your friends here.
You sir have no character.
You have no idea how badly you just stepped in it :clap:
 

Indacouch

Well-Known Member
Somone who respects others soooo much omg i cant believe you said helmet!
Get the fuck out of here. I am a caregiver ass hole. I supply patients.
You jumped on a band wagon of shit talking and then all the sudden try and play dont make fun of the handicapped?
No matter what you grow or who you help.

You are a dirtbag. Your true colors shined right through your text.

Im a cardholder in a legal state who also caregives for 6 patients.
Their medicine is free......i charge them nothing.......i make my money for the grows from selling my fire to dummys like your friends here.
You sir have no character.
Shall I QOUTE you on all the times you decided to use people wearing helmets as an insult ......your such an upstanding caretaker making fun of the handicap and then acting upset and protective after me calling you the POS you are for doing it......your a joke and should be ashamed ((SERIOUSLY))
 

Chunky Stool

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Somone who respects others soooo much omg i cant believe you said helmet!
Get the fuck out of here. I am a caregiver ass hole. I supply patients.
You jumped on a band wagon of shit talking and then all the sudden try and play dont make fun of the handicapped?
No matter what you grow or who you help.

You are a dirtbag. Your true colors shined right through your text.

Im a cardholder in a legal state who also caregives for 6 patients.
Their medicine is free......i charge them nothing.......i make my money for the grows from selling my fire to dummys like your friends here.
You sir have no character.
You sir are a lying sack of shit. :roll:
 
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