Carne Seca
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Really? With what is going on in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, etc. and the union busting bills? You couldn't be more wrong.
Re-elect Obama 2012 thread
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Really? With what is going on in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, etc. and the union busting bills? You couldn't be more wrong.
Ernst
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Unpopular pro-war presidents do.
You have to admit the Bush/Obama graphics merge is spooky over the Middle East American Interests rhetoric.
UncleBuck
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this makes me laugh heartily.
just a few pages back, you were taunting another poster to address your points.
i not only addressed your points, i rebutted them too. your response?
immature faggotry.
you are failing, my friend.
which means i am WINNING.
perhaps even BI-WINNING.
you blithering fucktard.
Ernst
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Today is the official start day. I ran with Londonfog's post and am adding content.
Good reading story please follow link for the full story.
Good reading story please follow link for the full story.
GOP keeps its powder dry as Obama runs unopposed
By: Byron York 04/04/11 8:05 PM
Chief Political Correspondent Follow Him @ByronYork
U.S. President Barack Obama speaks as he unveils the National Clean Fleets Partnership at a UPS shipping facility April 1, 2011 in Landover, Maryland.
The 2012 presidential race is on. Barack Obama is now formally running for re-election. Unopposed. Of course, that's only technically true; a number of Republicans are clearly running for the White House. But so far none has made the big, official announcement. Given that Obama's job approval ratings are not so hot -- he's at 46.5 percent approval in the RealClearPolitics average of polls -- that strikes even some of the various Republican candidate camps as a little odd.
"It's certainly unusual," says an adviser to former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who has announced a presidential exploratory committee. "Especially since I don't hear any Republicans arguing that [Obama] is unbeatable."
With a vulnerable president running for re-election and retreating from policies at the same time -- see Obama's Monday surrender on trying 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in civilian court -- why aren't several GOP candidates already officially in the race?
One reason Republicans don't talk about much in public is that they are spooked by what happened to the last GOP presidential candidate. "I think some of it is the fear of repeating the McCain experience in '08 and building a machine that can't be sustained," says the Pawlenty adviser.
Back in 2006 and 2007, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., laid the foundation for a big, expensive, well-funded presidential race. Still bearing the scars of his loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 GOP primaries, McCain ran a big-spending operation until, in the summer of 2007, he ran out of cash and the campaign nearly died. McCain recovered and eventually won the nomination, but it was a very hard slog.
It's an experience today's GOP candidates don't want to repeat. "Our view is that things got started too soon last time," says a close adviser to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. "The only people who have been agitating for an early start [now] are the press and overcaffeinated political junkies, and I guess we can now add President Obama to that list."
There are other reasons GOP candidates are holding back. For one, when a candidate officially declares, campaign finance restrictions kick in, narrowing the sources of money that can be used for the campaign. For the moment, as undeclared candidates, they can draw on pre-presidential political action committees. And popular figures like Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee can also make paid speeches that double as pre-campaign appearances.
Another reason is that holding off gives pre-candidates the time to assemble and road-test campaign staff, without the scrutiny that accompanies a declared campaign. Yet another reason is that the action in the GOP at the moment is in the House of Representatives, and Republican candidates would have to fight with that for attention.
Holding off also has benefits for the Republican Party as a whole. If there were two or more declared GOP candidates right now, they would probably be attacking each other as much as Obama. "They're launching missiles at Obama," says GOP strategist and Bush adviser Karl Rove. "If they were official candidates, there would be a greater tendency to snipe at each other."
So for the moment, Obama has the official stage to himself. "This will be my final campaign, at least as a candidate," the president said in an email to supporters Monday. "So even though I'm focused on the job you elected me to do, and the race may not reach full speed for a year or more, the work of laying the foundation for our campaign must start today."
The video Obama released to accompany his announcement featured a demographically balanced group of supporters saying why they believe Obama should win another term. But one person was conspicuously absent from the ad: Barack Obama. The president who has been on America's TV screens almost daily for more than two years opted out of his own campaign announcement video.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/polit...powder-dry-obama-runs-unopposed#ixzz1IcRzXcHU
MuyLocoNC
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Why do we have to limit to people who have announced? We know the "elite" Republican candidates haven't announced yet, so why do we have to exclude them?
I can certainly think of a few Republicans that could narrowly beat Obama if the conditions stay favorable for conservatives until the election. Plenty can change between now and then, but there are a couple.
But since they don't meet the criteria of your request, I won't bother naming them. Your rules. Wow, doesn't this make for an interesting exchange...not really. But you really didn't want an answer anyway, didja?
Considering his current approval rating, and if things don't improve at a VERY rapid rate, his bid at a second term could be in great jeopardy.
Illegal Smile
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Obama couldn't beat any viable republican and they can't count on another McCain. That's why Obama will not be the nominee, will not even run.
secretweapon
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Anyone watch that Shit with Glenn Beck and Bill O'rilley where Glenn called himself retarded, then called Donald trump retarded. the icing on the cake is when he admitted that they wouldn't make as much money if he actually reported the TRUTH. FOX news fucking cracks me up.
DelSlow
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MuyLocoNC
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You should get a position at Media Matters as one of their anti-Beck flunkies, since the only requirement is making false claims about what they say on their broadcasts. You sir are a LIAR.
What was said, and it was by O'Reilly, not Beck was that if they "ONLY" reported the truth without being "PROVOCATIVE", they would be off the air. A far cry from what you claimed they said and by the wrong guy, you didn't watch the video did you, you just read an article on MediaMatters and regurgitated it on this thread.
Beck also DIDN'T say retarded, he said Trump made him "UNEASY", again you didn't actually watch anything did you? And Beck is always self depreciating, but you wouldn't know because MM didn't tell you to go on forums and type that.
Douche.
Illegal Smile
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^^^^^^^^^^ +1
Carne Seca
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How's that teabaggy, take back the government thingy working out for ya'll? The majority wanted to find out what the Rethuglicans could do to speed up the recovery process and now we're finding out. Even the most staunch corporate shills on this site can't hide the fact that the GOP is fucking us right in the ass. And no lube either. Anyone who votes to keep these clowns in office really needs to have his/her head examined.
Lets see how everyone likes this nice little government shut down they've been aiming for since they were elected. House Majority Leader Boner is clearly out of his depth and being led around by the nose. When are people going to fucking wake up and see what's happening?
Vote Obama folks. Vote Democrat locally and federally. We need to stop this attack on the middle class and the poor. Do the right thing. Stop voting against your best interests!
Lets see how everyone likes this nice little government shut down they've been aiming for since they were elected. House Majority Leader Boner is clearly out of his depth and being led around by the nose. When are people going to fucking wake up and see what's happening?
Vote Obama folks. Vote Democrat locally and federally. We need to stop this attack on the middle class and the poor. Do the right thing. Stop voting against your best interests!
MrDank007
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Yes! Vote for Hope! Hope (modern day def) = stick your head in the sand
Illegal Smile
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I think the take back the government thing has the potential to work well. This from, of all places, CNBC
http://www.cnbc.com/id/42429728
http://www.cnbc.com/id/42429728
Illegal Smile
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Speaking of Egypt, which Obama was so excited about, they have now created a new police force solely to be modesty police. That is, they make sure the women are all covered up. Democracy -yay!
CHUCKTYLAH
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Nobama for me thank you. If he legalized weed tommorow I still wouldn't want him in office. First thing he did in office was to cut defense spending by 25%. The most effective terrorist attack on the USA ever.
Carne Seca
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umm.. .we have more "defense" than the world combined. I don't think that's a serious issue... but please... keep the rhetoric coming. It's fun to watch. 
Well I'm off to the Farmington DMV to get my license renewed. Like I said, get your government shit done today.
Well I'm off to the Farmington DMV to get my license renewed. Like I said, get your government shit done today.
secretweapon
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Bahaha terrorist attack on the US, now that is some funny Shit.
Cutting worker union rights to decrease our deficit is fucking stupid. How much are we spending on defence? Exactly.
Republicans are just merely a tool. A tool which corporations can manipulate to their own agendas. That adgenda is to make money for the stock holders.
Fuck baner boner.
Moldy
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I'll never vote out of fear again. Voted for Obama once, he lies, same as the last king, fuck him. Gary Johnson or any independent. I'm done with this two party dictatorship.
This whole government needs to be replaced. You got religious zelots on one side and fuckin wussies on the other side and nothing gets done unless it's for corporations or religious groups and followers. The SCOTUS needs to go too.