I haven't lost sight of it at all. You made that up.I think I do understand it, what it's purpose is at least in a way you have lost sight of.
First you say it's for our betterment, then you say we don't owe our allegiance to it. Why in the world would someone not be for their own betterment or benefit? You're a contradiction to often.The market is just a tool to exchange labor/services so people can get the things they need to lead better lives. That is it's purpose, to make people's lives better. The market is not a divine creature that we all owe allegiance to. It exists for our benefit.
I haven't met anyone who says it does. Maybe as an indicator if that's what you are saying.That benefit is not measured by the dow industrial average.
No it's not. It's a manipulated tool that is managed by government. I wonder if you have any clue as to why the market hasn't crashed.It's measured by the quality of life of the people who participate in that market.
No they don't. It's a win and loose game. nothing is guaranteed. The people have a greater chance to suffer when the free market becomes managed. Like we saw in the Housing debacle.However now it seems people have started to treat the market as more than that. You seem to believe the goal of the market is to allow people to acquire as much wealth as possible. That is not it's purpose. When the market works like that, the people suffer at the greed of the ultra wealthy.
We don't regulate it, we allow the corporations to manage it. The corporations that are supposed to be regulated make the rules and squelch competition.That's why we regulate markets. That's why every market in the history of the world has been a regulated one.
Sure they do. Every day it exists. If I agree with someone to cut their lawn for $20 and that person agrees. That is a free market. Free to choose. Tell me how that's not free market.Free markets do not exist. They never have existed and they never should exist in the future.
Show me where many suffer when they are free to choose? We always have winners and losers except the free market allows more control in the hands of the individuals and not the bureaucrats. Everytime we've had a bad economy it has come at the hands of government and non free market policies. Yet you don't want the free market and want to continue managing it, even though time after time it has been a complete failure in the long run. The biggest drop in our spending power has come since 1913. The birth of the Federal Reserve and the manipulation of our economy. It is not a coincidence.The idea of free markets may sound good on paper, but why should the people of a country suffer just so a handful of people can elevate themselves into an ultrawealthy ruling class?
America isn't about just you princess. 50 states with different cities so even a high maintenance person like you can find the best place that fits your needs. One size doesn't fit all.yes, i'll just uproot my existence because ron paul knows what is best for my wife, not my wife.
gotta love that small government.
blaha haha, wow what new infrastructure? and besides that, tax breaks!?! what in the world?and if i were a unicorn, i would shit skittles on a fluffy cloud.
and it nearly tripled in the 20 years previous.
i thought you boasted yourself as an oldie with some historical perspective, so i am left wondering why you ignore such obvious things as this.
i fucking hate all these tax breaks and access to health care. don't get me started on the infrastructure improvements that allow me to idle in traffic less, wasting less gas.
i hate it when companies spend less money on fossil fuels because their trucks did not have to sit and idle in traffic. i much prefer to foot the cost for these companies' wasted gasoline.
what a disaster!
all that freedom is there, i guess.America isn't about just you princess. 50 states with different cities so even a high maintenance person like you can find the best place that fits your needs. One size doesn't fit all.
Options are always best.
you are so completely unable to respond in any negative way about the actual tax breaks and actual infrastructure improvements that you have to make up some canard about global warming.blaha haha, wow what new infrastructure? and besides that, tax breaks!?! what in the world?
Global warming is the biggest farce, you must realize this by now?
It's not just about your wife. Why do you get to decide who does and doesn't live? You don't own the childs life. Unless the mental or physical health of the mother is at risk why take the life of another? Life has become less meaningful for too many.all that freedom is there, i guess.
i just have to uproot my existence to have it because your "small government" knows better than my wife does.
makes sense.
Quit relying on others to make decisions for you. That's the entire problem. You don't understand so you listen to people who "sound" like they do. How's that working out? The economy recover like the ones who said it would if we passed the anti free market theft packages? Go with what works, as long as you are not denying people their rights.i base my predictions on solid evidence, indicators, and speculation of those who know 'inside baseball' way better than i do.
You do know the "robber barons' were set up by government intervention don't you? It referred to the railroads and the easy money government gave them which led to mal investment and inefficiency. You do know the worst and longest economic bad times have come since the birth of the Federal Reserve don't you? All the new technology and ability for people to actually move to where the jobs are located couldn't stop the great depression.Willyßagseed;6846400 said:Yes !! we need to go back to pre 1913 and the Robber Barons era........ errrrr I meant "Golden Age"
Dumbassedness at its finest.
No it's not. You have no proof of that. You have no idea who is or isn't coming or going based on the Ron Paul threads. Because one anti Ron Paul person cries about it like a baby you automatically have to protect everyone from the evils of the written word?dan is right. the ron paul shit is spam-like and drives many members away from these boards.
You're always on vacation.i will be merging them all some day, just not while i'm on vacation.
why do you think the state gets to decide the most major life decision for my wife? why do you think the state owns my wife's body and gets to tell her what to do with it?Why do you get to decide who does and doesn't live? You don't own the childs life.
decisions?Quit relying on others to make decisions for you. That's the entire problem. You don't understand so you listen to people who "sound" like they do. How's that working out? The economy recover like the ones who said it would if we passed the anti free market theft packages? Go with what works, as long as you are not denying people their rights.
my life is pretty splendid, isn't it now?You're always on vacation.
Just curious...At which point does the "third party" enter into it for you? Meaning at which point prebirth (if any) do you consider an abortion to be solely your wife's body vs involving another living being ?why do you think the state gets to decide the most major life decision for my wife? why do you think the state owns my wife's body and gets to tell her what to do with it?
oh, i forgot. it is because you love freedom and i hate it.
gotta love that small government.
never thought about this one that hard, as my wife would know within a month or so if she were pregnant and i think within a month is acceptable.Just curious...At which point does the "third party" enter into it for you? Meaning at which point prebirth (if any) do you consider an abortion to be solely your wife's body vs involving another living being ?