Rurumo's HLG 650R Grow Journal

Rurumo said:
Thanks anthony! I'm really blown away by the initial quality of the light, I think you'd love either of those! I've gotten one of my friends to pop a few of my FDM seeds too, so I'll get pics of any good phenos he finds. He's doing the Sweet Tooth #4 for sure, and I think a few C99 and ESB. I gave him seeds from all their strains that I have, and I think my Indiana Bubblegum Bx2 seeds are probably sitting in my PO BOX right this moment. I wish one of us had room for a few of those right now, I miss that flavor. Indiana Bubblegum is one of the most underrated "elite" strains. I would take it or Sweet Pink Grapefruit over any of the $1,000+$ fotm cuts. Sorry got waaaay off track there lol.
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Its ironic i hate the fruit but the original spg cut was nice i liked it not seen it in years mind you
 
conor c said:
Its ironic i hate the fruit but the original spg cut was nice i liked it not seen it in years mind you
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I love the SPG cut too and just recently found someone who has it, but I figure, with all the work put into Swt #4, I should check it out first since I already have the seeds. I heard SPG tends to autoflower if rootbound but that it has been bred out of Swt #4, no idea if that's true or not. I think SPG is one of my top 10 cuts of all time, and actually is probably a top 5 pick for me.
 
Rurumo said:
I love the SPG cut too and just recently found someone who has it, but I figure, with all the work put into Swt #4, I should check it out first since I already have the seeds. I heard SPG tends to autoflower if rootbound but that it has been bred out of Swt #4, no idea if that's true or not. I think SPG is one of my top 10 cuts of all time, and actually is probably a top 5 pick for me.
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Yeah it does auto if rootbound tbh closest in seed i found so far was sweet deep grapefruit by dinafem they goners far as i can tell but i know some folks that used to work for em have set up and or working for others so i hope someone pops up with that line oneday too i think it was spg x blueberry it yielded good nice big dense fruity buds but it tended to lean to the spg more ime
 
I'll be back with an update soon, things are moving along nicely and today or tomorrow I will be taking cuttings and transplanting. The plants are looking nice and healthy and were ready for this a week or more ago, I've just been sidelined for a few days. Also, check out what I just got in the mail!

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This is Mullumbimby Madness x Haze #15 from Bush Weed at Seedbay. I also got a pack of the MM X Oaxacan Space Shuttle in a separate order, I just decided I had to have a pack of each. And what a nice freebie, I will very much enjoy growing out original haze x Skunk #1. This was my first Seedbay order and I loved the experience, they are very responsive and helpful, and the shipping from England was under 10 days each time. I just must have gotten lucky and avoided Chicago ISC because they arrived very quickly. So excited to try a few of Neville's "grail" crosses, this should be some incredible smoke!
 
I got them topped and will transplant this morning. I'm going to give them a little while to root into their new pots, then flip to 12/12. If they are too rootbound, I'll just trim the root ball before transplanting-they actually seem to really like that. I did let these go at least a week too long, but at least the cuttings were choice!

Here are a couple lovely Cinderella 99s:

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I'm also happy to report that my friend who grew out the Louis/Irene earlier this year with me is growing Sweet Tooth #4 right now, so I'm excited to see those plants again. They have really cool broad/thick leaves and are very pretty plants. Right now only 2 of the last 8 strains I've grown have had excellent terpenes- quality and quantity- so that's one thing that I seem to find more in older strains like these.
 
Okay, so this plant is exactly 30 inches away from the light at 40% and my lux meter is showing about 23k. The readings from around the tent range from 20-25k lux, so when this light has a little space to work with, you get a very even coverage. I love the HLG 650r at 40% for veg, the growth is incredible and I find myself needing to adjust my nutrients to it quickly to avoid deficiencies. Ideally, I would get these plants healthy again after being so rootbound, plus recover from me tearing the roots up-I should have just cut the sides/bottom with a knife like I do with bonsai moms, but I just went at the root balls with my hands this time, probably not paying as much attention as I should have. I'll spray these with some mild soy hydrolysate to give them a little N boost for stretch.

Problem is, this is the size of plant with 4 colas that I want to try flipping-I want to see how a more compact grow with just 4 main colas does vs my usual method of totally filling up a canopy with bud sites. The idea being that I really don't need the maximum amount of bud for medicine each cycle, and also, limiting the # of colas should give me more space for breeding stuff, like bagging them, moving the plants in and out, etc. With 1.5 gallon air pots and just 4 colas, I'm hoping I can lift them at full flower if I need to move them around. Using less coco will be nice too.

So I'm thinking of giving them one or two days to recover a bit more, then flipping. I'll time things better next time so that I have plants this size, but also their root system fully filling out the pot.

One last comment: I really love the light that this fixture produces, it's a very nice white light. The bar lights also work well, but I think they had more yellow in the spectrum, which I got used to, but I much prefer this spectrum. The HLG light is more of a crisp white and it reminds me a little of my CMH fixture, which I love too. It also feels a bit like HID in terms of the distance from the canopy, which I like because you can really see your entire canopy without hunching over and peering under the massive bar light. So far my impression of this light is 10/10 in all respects.

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Rurumo said:
Okay, so this plant is exactly 30 inches away from the light at 40% and my lux meter is showing about 23k. The readings from around the tent range from 20-25k lux, so when this light has a little space to work with, you get a very even coverage. I love the HLG 650r at 40% for veg, the growth is incredible and I find myself needing to adjust my nutrients to it quickly to avoid deficiencies. Ideally, I would get these plants healthy again after being so rootbound, plus recover from me tearing the roots up-I should have just cut the sides/bottom with a knife like I do with bonsai moms, but I just went at the root balls with my hands this time, probably not paying as much attention as I should have. I'll spray these with some mild soy hydrolysate to give them a little N boost for stretch.

Problem is, this is the size of plant with 4 colas that I want to try flipping-I want to see how a more compact grow with just 4 main colas does vs my usual method of totally filling up a canopy with bud sites. The idea being that I really don't need the maximum amount of bud for medicine each cycle, and also, limiting the # of colas should give me more space for breeding stuff, like bagging them, moving the plants in and out, etc. With 1.5 gallon air pots and just 4 colas, I'm hoping I can lift them at full flower if I need to move them around. Using less coco will be nice too.

So I'm thinking of giving them one or two days to recover a bit more, then flipping. I'll time things better next time so that I have plants this size, but also their root system fully filling out the pot.

One last comment: I really love the light that this fixture produces, it's a very nice white light. The bar lights also work well, but I think they had more yellow in the spectrum, which I got used to, but I much prefer this spectrum. The HLG light is more of a crisp white and it reminds me a little of my CMH fixture, which I love too. It also feels a bit like HID in terms of the distance from the canopy, which I like because you can really see your entire canopy without hunching over and peering under the massive bar light. So far my impression of this light is 10/10 in all respects.

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Their lights are awesome. We just converted to full HLG for veg and flower.
 
I flipped these to 12/12 today, hoping to try more compact plants for once. Everyone is doing well and the plants are loving the increase in light under the 650. I turned it up to 60% today and spaced the distance so the tops are at about 30-35k lux. I like to increase it slowly for the first week of flower. The plants really seem to love this light.

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Here is my whorled C99. I'm feeding these 9 EC half and half MaxiGrow/Bloom. I do have one of the C99 receiving the liquid organic CSL based nutrients-it looks like any of the Maxi plants for now, but we'll see how it does during the stretch phase.

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Same plant

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Since my friend and I share cuts, I gave him a C99 and he gave me a Sweet Tooth #4 and an ESB. This is the Sweet Tooth #4, and man have I missed this wonderful strain, it's tops for good vibes. I love the leaves on it too.

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I love this little plant, probably soon to be not so little. This is the ESB, and I'd like to grow out a bunch of these in the future. This is a really special strain from Oldtimer1 and it's well known for the quality of high and for being good for anxiety. I just purchased a pack of Nigerian Sunshine because the idea behind it reminds me of ESB. ESB is Nigerian Skunk x Blueberry and Nigerian Sunshine is BOEL Nigerian x Blue Moon Rocks. I'd love to do a side by side with those. The Nigerian Sunshine is also known for helping people with PTSD, so maybe there is something to the "African strain (thcv?) + Blueberry" combination for anxiety.

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Here is a C99, it looks like it's glowing from the power of these lights! I'd like to get a UV bar in here for flower, but I have to wait until next month, should have plenty of time to benefit from it still. These 3 strains are all from FDM.
 
I have a single QB 288 V2 running on an 80 watt driver in my 2x2.
This is my current SOG in there

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Rurumo said:
Next month I'll be getting an HLG 65 to replace my generic 120 watt LED in my 2x2. I'm trying to reduce my electricity use a bit and after seeing how bright my new 650 is, I'm betting the 65 will beat out what I have in there. I'm really digging these lights!
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