Size of pot's relavance to yeild,veg time ?

New Age United said:

Yes to be honest it really is just laziness on my part, at that point I still have as many as 12 plants so I just skip a pot and go right to the 5g and it's never been a problem, but yes it is a big leap and you might want to 2g in between.

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thank you! a regular conversation about growing, without any BS--just honesty, so i can make a good decision based upon another member's grower experience and information.



...so, because i am just being lazy too, i will up-pot to a 2-gallon air-pot in between and then just go straight to the 5-gallon for flower with maybe just a week or so of veg in it beforehand. i usually have "a lot" of plants too (relative to my space), so that's why i go from a 1-gallon to the 3-gallon right before flower because the space is so little. at least i think that's why i do it, maybe i'm being lazy there too.

undercovergrow said:

thanks. i just wanted another grower's opinion as i couldn't decide if it was just laziness making me think the up-pot to the 2-gallon wouldn't necessarily be necessary. the air-pots work really well as far as drainage and letting the girls dry out.

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Honestly I've always had the intuitive feeling that by going straight to the 5g they spread there roots faster and in turn grew faster but I've never done a control to find out, I've always just gone from 1 to 5 and I don't really see how a pot in between is necessary, so ya especially where you're using air pots I would definitely just go straight to the 5g and save yourself some time.

New Age United said:

Honestly I've always had the intuitive feeling that by going straight to the 5g they spread there roots faster and in turn grew faster but I've never done a control to find out, I've always just gone from 1 to 5 and I don't really see how a pot in between is necessary, so ya especially where you're using air pots I would definitely just go straight to the 5g and save yourself some time.

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ya' think? yeah, the air-pots do work well as far as root systems go so okay, let's call this due diligence and not laziness and i'll just let them go straight to the 5-gallon and root for two weeks and then to flower. thanks.

undercovergrow said:

ya' think? yeah, the air-pots do work well as far as root systems go so okay, let's call this due diligence and not laziness and i'll just let them go straight to the 5-gallon and root for two weeks and then to flower. thanks.

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Ya it would be interesting to do a controlled experiment and see if they do grow faster. Let me know if you notice any significant difference.

New Age United said:

Ya it would be interesting to do a controlled experiment and see if they do grow faster. Let me know if you notice any significant difference.

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i'll do it and let you know so i can know for future grows how i want to do it. i'll do it side by side with the two i've got coming up - once i confirm two girls out of them.

undercovergrow said:

i'll do it and let you know so i can know for future grows how i want to do it. i'll do it side by side with the two i've got coming up - once i confirm two girls out of them.

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Ya it would be much appreciated, then I'd know for sure, thanks.

Hey guys,, I realize this is old but oh well,, I'm on my 3rd grow,,harvest in 2 weeks .
I used 5 gallon pots but for this grow I added sum 3 gal cloth pots
My opinion the cloth pots work better ,,,,they drain quick(could be my heavy perlite soil) but they sit in the excess water and soak it up in a cuple hours,,,,
If they don't sit in the water it drys out too quick(2-3 days) normaly 4-5 days
IMO cloth is the way to go,,,,I'll be trying out sum 5 gal cloth pots next
Just hafta watch out for the height

MrStickyScissors said:

but truly the way to go is sea of green hardly any veg time and you can get an extra 2 havest a year that way while ;ulling the same yields

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Those constant cycles of mass cuttings and transplants though o0.

boilingoil said:

Thanks' guys and girls. I'm mainly talking about indoor growing. Haven't tied air pots but I've use smart pot and was not impressed with them. And I don't think a 200 gallon pot will fit in my basement.

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My new grow indoor here,I have a 3x3 flood tray and I filled it with 1 bag of Happy Frog,than I transplanted my medium sized square pots into the tray.Total plant count in there is 20.I put a 6x6 net over them and push the tops under the net.
lighting is with a 600w MH.

Interesting discussion. I grow in soil, Pro-Mix actually, and have worked with most common post sizes. Discounting the extremes, IME, pot size has zero effect on yield. As such, I run everything in 2g pots and average a bit more than 3oz (dry) per square foot. Too, IME, the entire thing about a gallon of medium per a foot of height is ridiculous. Makes zero workable sense. One can certainly use large pots, and many folks do, but to what end? One has to water less. That's not necessarily a good thing. The plants can be fed with every watering allowing for more control. I guess I'm trying to say that there are no hard and fast answers here. Too many variables to consider. Best of luck to everyone.

Simon

Nobody is mentioning a key factor here - average temperature of your grow in veg.

A lot of people veg at 20-22C indoors because they heard that was optimal for flowering but you can speed things up a lot by vegging at 30C. Note these are average temps. I have had great success in a greenhouse that gets 40C during the day but drops down to 20C at night (30C average).
I typically see 30-40% more growth at 30C than at 20C. From my experience, it typically takes 21-25 days at 30C to achieve the amount of growth of 35 days at 20C.

So people, when you say X weeks for Y gallon pots, you should really mention the conditions in your grow area.

Pauli Bhoy said:

Nobody is mentioning a key factor here - average temperature of your grow in veg.

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Nobody is mentioning it because this thread was from 6 years ago.

Pauli Bhoy said:

Nobody is mentioning a key factor here - average temperature of your grow in veg.

A lot of people veg at 20-22C indoors because they heard that was optimal for flowering but you can speed things up a lot by vegging at 30C. Note these are average temps. I have had great success in a greenhouse that gets 40C during the day but drops down to 20C at night (30C average).
I typically see 30-40% more growth at 30C than at 20C. From my experience, it typically takes 21-25 days at 30C to achieve the amount of growth of 35 days at 20C.

So people, when you say X weeks for Y gallon pots, you should really mention the conditions in your grow area.

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twentyeight.threefive said:

Nobody is mentioning it because this thread was from 6 years ago.

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And yet, the information still still seems relevant. I'm pretty sure nothing has changed in 6 years that changes how fast a plant grows in veg.

Darth Vapour said:

Run off who needs run off feed your plants accordingly
Way i look at Run off is money wasted all you done is leached your soil with the the nutrients you fed them
here is also my next generation self made totes 50 gallon drums cut in half with air vents View attachment 3506613 View attachment 3506614 View attachment 3506615 View attachment 3506620

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Dude.... Fucking hell bro.. That's a full time job right there . For real