captainmorgan
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I'm in,I skimmed over the thread and wondered if there are any efficiency numbers or Par/umole readings or did I miss them.
I was gonna run it HID bare-bulb style/trained in a circle.........wouldn't have hit the walls IMO.See how you're not lighting the walls now ? Was there a difference in room temp with the lens on or off? Or did you forget to test that?
grab a seat.....................hasn't even really startedA little late but I'm subbed, this sounds really good. I want one too!
Didn't miss the #s friend..........I have no ideaI'm in,I skimmed over the thread and wondered if there are any efficiency numbers or Par/umole readings or did I miss them.
No....Not just you ...
See to me those two pix say it all. That first one is lighting your room, the second your plants. IDK is it just me?
120W in, 10000 lumen out, so the efficacy is a paltry 83 lm/W.I'm in,I skimmed over the thread and wondered if there are any efficiency numbers or Par/umole readings or did I miss them.
you maybe be right but if they want to target themselves to MJ growers they are going to need to produce some stats. Their website blows...120W in, 10000 lumen out, so the efficacy is a paltry 83 lm/W.
In my cursory assessment of Innoled as a company, it's four guys, mostly in marketing, that take a studio light COB, screw it to a heatsink and target it at the gullible Cannabis growing market.
See to me those two pix say it all. That first one is lighting your room, the second your plants. IDK is it just me?
I don't care what anyone says.............I rather take the losses at the reflector or none going bareNo....Not just you ...
I can see that ,too ...
PSUAGRO,I think Fran's right ,afterall ...
Most probably the lens,is a 'keepers' thing ...
Cheers .
That's the way is goes in here............better be prepared for skepticism when dealing with expensive gear, which I agree with.Let the bashing begin
LOL........yes my initial thought as well, but their all about the spectrum being their advantage. Is lm/w important with "white" sources?? YES IMO...................will see, NOT claiming it's magic disco120W in, 10000 lumen out, so the efficacy is a paltry 83 lm/W.
In my cursory assessment of Innoled as a company, it's four guys, mostly in marketing, that take a studio light COB, screw it to a heatsink and target it at the gullible Cannabis growing market.
Absolutely correct.............you maybe be right but if they want to target themselves to MJ growers they are going to need to produce some stats. Their website blows...
Petflora - We use high-end glass lens, it will not deteriorate over the life of the LED. Yes, reflector is good but it cuts down vertical space for some farmers. For commercial WH farmers it's not a problem for them. The lumen lost with a lens on is about 5-7%.
We offer 300w and now 500w. Can you imagine a 120 degree reflector on a heat sink that size?
Well said............AND I also find mr flux's work impressive..........waiting on his HSO BD results, which should be spectacular with the right phenos.Everyone is entitled to their opinion and we respect that. We expect constructive criticism from this knowledgeable community when we decided to do this test. One thing I have to disagree with Mrflux is that this community is far from being gullible. Everyone here is guru in this specialized field.
Once again our website is being updated with new chip design and spec. The new site will be up and running soon. Our new chip specs for 1W is 120 lumens "real world" tested by third party laboratory.
As far as the lens go... you want the light to go where it's beneficial to the plants, not to the walls. If you're paying for each watt, you want to make sure you get the most out of it.
The show just barely got started, everyone just need to relax and let the light and PSUAGRO do his thing. I will answer any legitimate questions at the end of the show.
BTW…Very impressive room and grow Mrflux!
I can confirm that they are in fact a GLASS secondary lensGrnlife
How about parabolic reflectors instead of lenses?
First the lost lumens is regained
Quality optical lenses are $$$$, and cheap ones are likely plastic, which means they will discolor eventually = less and less lumens over time
Petflora - We use high-end glass lens, it will not deteriorate over the life of the LED. Yes, reflector is good but it cuts down vertical space for some farmers. For commercial WH farmers it's not a problem for them. The lumen lost with a lens on is about 5-7%.
We offer 300w and now 500w. Can you imagine a 120 degree reflector on a heat sink that size?
damn sds , a magician couldn't sneak a quarter behind your ear! lol your good with your research all jokes asideType of optical glass used ,please ,for confirmation of claim.
Judging from the len's curvature,it's a type of glass with low refraction index ..
And it must withstand heat ,without cracking or chipping ...
Like Schott BOROFLOAT™ or Corning Pyrex 7740®....
It can be also S-FSL5,N-BK7,N-K5,B270/S1,Schott Zerodur®,N-SK11,
N-BaK4 or N-BaK1 .....
http://www.edmundoptics.com/technical-resources-center/optics/optical-glass/
5-7% lumen lost ,is a pretty low figure ...
(Specially for that kind of thickness involved. )
So,of which glass type are those lenses made ?
dude you really need to be called "the nutty professor"...change your username man...Type of optical glass used ,please ,for confirmation of claim.
Judging from the len's curvature,it's a type of glass with low refraction index ..
And it must withstand heat ,without cracking or chipping ...
Like Schott BOROFLOAT™ or Corning Pyrex 7740®....
It can be also S-FSL5,N-BK7,N-K5,B270/S1,Schott Zerodur®,N-SK11,
N-BaK4 or N-BaK1 .....
http://www.edmundoptics.com/technical-resources-center/optics/optical-glass/
5-7% lumen lost ,is a pretty low figure ...
(Specially for that kind of thickness involved. )
So,of which glass type are those lenses made ?
SDS - I appreciate your attention to details, knowledge, and taking the time to do your homework. We welcome all questions but please be fair with some of the questions that you ask. I don't have the time to answer all the questions regarding the components that make up our LED lights. I hope you understand, but just to satisfy your thrust for knowledge about our products. We use Bicom optics for our lens, one of the largest in Asia. Pretty much all the largest LED companies under the sun uses them. You can check them out here.
http://www.bicomoptics.com/Index.asp
I just want to reiterate, what we specialized in is our patented LED light engine, the most important component of the light. Everything else is just a shell, those shell can be outsource any where. We try to give the end user a great product at a competitive price by choosing every component wisely, performance vs cost.