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CCGNZ

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i'm always pretty high, but putin is a still a slimy bitch, and a playground bully. he'll keep pushing until someone pushes him back...so go ahead, ignore him, let him do whatever he wants, and pretty soon he'll have the Ukraines resources to use too
Roger that Roger,I don't want to sound like the 2nd coming of Neville Chamberlain, bullys need to be confronted, but the way the stars are aligned right now,(pandemic,inflation,total political clusterfk,this is not a time to start shooting in Europe, Biden is playing it pretty right,he's giving the Ukranians weaponry to hinder the Russians, and also beefing up the surrounding NATO countries with additional forces, if those countries are FKD with Artical 5 means we are committed to action vs Russia. NO fighting in Ukraine on our part let Vlad pay a price and see how much internal dissent unfolds once the casualties mount all while beefing up the surrounding area. Don't underestimate Russias weaponry as you previously mentioned however, The Russian S-400 Air defence system is said to be the most lethal in the world at this time, supposedly superior to any Western system according to many military experts. The days of people being in awe of our tech(eg the laser guided weapons that shocked the world in the gulf wars are now possessed by everybody (China,Russia, even the Turks and Iranians have capable strike drones eg the Saudi Refinery attack shocked the West. So while I believe we still have the upperhand in tech it has shrunk considerably the last 15yrs.
 

CCGNZ

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there is no anxiety- this is just the normal..we are back. if you're talking about pundits? you know the saying about opinions being like arseholes?

i have noticed some papers headlines' and you know, i think they're the ones rattling sabres because the news is it's mediocre self again they have to be creative- don't let it scare you:hug:..that's what they're trying to do..it's all about readership and advertising.
OK,Mam, thanks for being a natural Xanax for me combined w/the 2 real ones I just took to mellow down a notch,maybe you could get the best of Putin,he always respected Angela Merkel.
 

schuylaar

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Roger that Roger,I don't want to sound like the 2nd coming of Neville Chamberlain, bullys need to be confronted, but the way the stars are aligned right now,(pandemic,inflation,total political clusterfk,this is not a time to start shooting in Europe, Biden is playing it pretty right,he's giving the Ukranians weaponry to hinder the Russians, and also beefing up the surrounding NATO countries with additional forces, if those countries are FKD with Artical 5 means we are committed to action vs Russia. NO fighting in Ukraine on our part let Vlad pay a price and see how much internal dissent unfolds once the casualties mount all while beefing up the surrounding area. Don't underestimate Russias weaponry as you previously mentioned however, The Russian S-400 Air defence system is said to be the most lethal in the world at this time, supposedly superior to any Western system according to many military experts. The days of people being in awe of our tech(eg the laser guided weapons that shocked the world in the gulf wars are now possessed by everybody (China,Russia, even the Turks and Iranians have capable strike drones eg the Saudi Refinery attack shocked the West. So while I believe we still have the upperhand in tech it has shrunk considerably the last 15yrs.
if his troops take one baby step?- the sanctions will destroy them but it will also hurt it's people which is why Biden is whispering into the microphone..talking softly carrying the huge stick of sanctions behind him.

Putin is posturing and will use another world distraction to withdraw..this is not new.
 
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Fogdog

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Roger that Roger,I don't want to sound like the 2nd coming of Neville Chamberlain, bullys need to be confronted, but the way the stars are aligned right now,(pandemic,inflation,total political clusterfk,this is not a time to start shooting in Europe, Biden is playing it pretty right,he's giving the Ukranians weaponry to hinder the Russians, and also beefing up the surrounding NATO countries with additional forces, if those countries are FKD with Artical 5 means we are committed to action vs Russia. NO fighting in Ukraine on our part let Vlad pay a price and see how much internal dissent unfolds once the casualties mount all while beefing up the surrounding area. Don't underestimate Russias weaponry as you previously mentioned however, The Russian S-400 Air defence system is said to be the most lethal in the world at this time, supposedly superior to any Western system according to many military experts. The days of people being in awe of our tech(eg the laser guided weapons that shocked the world in the gulf wars are now possessed by everybody (China,Russia, even the Turks and Iranians have capable strike drones eg the Saudi Refinery attack shocked the West. So while I believe we still have the upperhand in tech it has shrunk considerably the last 15yrs.
The US doesn't brag about its weaponry and Russia does.

What can one conclude from that?
 
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GrassBurner

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Roger that Roger,I don't want to sound like the 2nd coming of Neville Chamberlain, bullys need to be confronted, but the way the stars are aligned right now,(pandemic,inflation,total political clusterfk,this is not a time to start shooting in Europe, Biden is playing it pretty right,he's giving the Ukranians weaponry to hinder the Russians, and also beefing up the surrounding NATO countries with additional forces, if those countries are FKD with Artical 5 means we are committed to action vs Russia. NO fighting in Ukraine on our part let Vlad pay a price and see how much internal dissent unfolds once the casualties mount all while beefing up the surrounding area. Don't underestimate Russias weaponry as you previously mentioned however, The Russian S-400 Air defence system is said to be the most lethal in the world at this time, supposedly superior to any Western system according to many military experts. The days of people being in awe of our tech(eg the laser guided weapons that shocked the world in the gulf wars are now possessed by everybody (China,Russia, even the Turks and Iranians have capable strike drones eg the Saudi Refinery attack shocked the West. So while I believe we still have the upperhand in tech it has shrunk considerably the last 15yrs.
Because of our sheer volume of technologically advanced weapons, and the fact we invest so much more in our military. Regardless of how you feel about Trump, be thankful he invested in our military, as well as forcing our allies to spend more on theirs.
 

Fogdog

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Because of our sheer volume of technologically advanced weapons, and the fact we invest so much more in our military. Regardless of how you feel about Trump, be thankful he invested in our military, as well as forcing our allies to spend more on theirs.
We barely survived that man.

 

CCGNZ

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The US doesn't brag about it's weaponry and Russia does.

What can one conclude from that?
Well in Russia they have the DICK MEASURER IN CHIEF,that's why, but my point is the Russians have a knack for surprising, it goes back to ww2 when the arrogant German's were quoted as saying "how can these subserviant,inferior Slavs make a better tank than us (talking about the famed t-34), Korea, MIG 15 shows up oiu of nowhere and creates all kinds of havoc,Viet Nam, Russian SAMS and MIGS take a pretty big toll on USAF, so I'm just saying not to underestimate them.
 

GrassBurner

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We barely survived that man.

We thrived under that man. The same man who kept Russia's pipeline from being completed.....Joe Bidens kid makes millions in Ukraine, them Joe let's the pipeline roll....and still you continue to harp on Trump. The hypocrisy from the left is unfathomable.
 

CCGNZ

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Because of our sheer volume of technologically advanced weapons, and the fact we invest so much more in our military. Regardless of how you feel about Trump, be thankful he invested in our military, as well as forcing our allies to spend more on theirs.
I'll only give CHEETO a thumbs up on the vaccine developement program,otherwise every administration has always backed the highest military spending of any country in the world by far
 

CCGNZ

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We thrived under that man. The same man who kept Russia's pipeline from being completed.....Joe Bidens kid makes millions in Ukraine, them Joe let's the pipeline roll....and still you continue to harp on Trump. The hypocrisy from the left is unfathomable.
The ultra-rich and Corporations thrived under that man, the stock marketwas completely a bull market from the time Obama bailed the Auto ind. and big banks out after the 08 collapse,Cheeto just grabbed his surfboard and rode the wave Obama created
 

GrassBurner

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The ultra-rich and Corporations thrived under that man, the stock marketwas completely a bull market from the time Obama bailed the Auto ind. and big banks out after the 08 collapse,Cheeto just grabbed his surfboard and rode the wave Obama created
Rode the wave by achieving a GDP Obama said was impossible? Something about a magic wand if I remember correctly? How's life right now? Seen the price of anything lately :lol:
 

Fogdog

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We thrived under that man. The same man who kept Russia's pipeline from being completed.....Joe Bidens kid makes millions in Ukraine, them Joe let's the pipeline roll....and still you continue to harp on Trump. The hypocrisy from the left is unfathomable.
US manufacturing went into recession in the spring of 2019, well before the pandemic hit. It was due to his scatterbrained policies that restricted the flow of imported goods into the country, trade wars and patrimony that favored farmers over industry. So, we were already hurting economically BEFORE the pandemic.

Obama's adroit management of the economy to get this country through the Great Recession was a benefit to Trump. He didn't screw up Obama's economy and the rate of decline in unemployment was about the same as Obama's until the epidemic hit our weak economy.

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You should go back and check your sources for accuracy. What you said is not true.
 
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