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Dorian2

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Just as a quick side note. I watch a lot of music based you tube channels and over the last couple of years there has been a LOT of Cyrillic comments etc. While the comments have dropped significantly from what I'm seeing, more than likely due to certain sanctions from various sources, the folks making those comments are still around. I seriously doubt that the younger generation from Russia and Eastern Europe are buying any of this BS. Particularly the ones who have had relatives and friends in the Russian Military. I'm guessing the populace is beginning to fester some very heavy resentment towards their government at this point. This is from one small viewpoint obviously, but it does translate to many other markets as well.
 
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printer

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Neo-Nazis plan to blow up the Khadzhibey dam in Odessa
Neo-Nazis plan to blow up the Khadzhibey dam in Odessa
Neo-Nazis in Odessa, at the direction of the governor, mined the Khadzhibey dam in order to blow it up later, Colonel-General Mikhail Mizintsev, head of the National Defense Control Center of the Russian Federation, said at a briefing on Saturday.

"In Odessa , on the instructions of the governor of the region, the Khadzhibey dam was mined, which the neo-Nazis plan to blow up," Mizintsev said.

He explained that after the implementation of these criminal acts, densely populated areas along with the townspeople will be in the flood zone. According to Mizintsev, an attempt by a representative of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine to prevent this "crazy decision" was rudely and harshly suppressed, up to the threat of execution.

The head of the National Defense Control Center of the Russian Federation said that in Kramatorsk , nationalists cynically fired mortars at a car that delivered drinking water to civilians in the city. The shelling was carried out precisely at the moment of distributing water to the population, as a result, three people were injured, two were shell-shocked.

The Ukrainian authorities, according to Mizintsev, declare their readiness to ensure the safety of routes in the territories controlled by Kiev and allegedly express their commitment to humanistic principles, but in fact they prevent the withdrawal of civilians to safe areas in every possible way and block humanitarian actions.

"Once again, we draw the attention of the United Nations, the OSCE, the International Committee of the Red Cross to the criminal policy of official Kyiv in relation to the citizens of Ukraine, the gross violations of not only international humanitarian law, but also the constitution of their own country," the head of the National Center added.

Russia launched a military operation in Ukraine on February 24. President Vladimir Putin called its goal "the protection of people who have been subjected to bullying and genocide by the Kiev regime for eight years." For this, according to him, it is planned to carry out "demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine", to bring to justice all war criminals responsible for "bloody crimes against civilians" in Donbass . According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Armed Forces strike only at the military infrastructure and Ukrainian troops. With the support of the RF Armed Forces , the DPR and LPR groups are developing an offensive, but there is no talk of the occupation of Ukraine, the President of Russia emphasized.
 

cannabineer

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Neo-Nazis plan to blow up the Khadzhibey dam in Odessa
Neo-Nazis plan to blow up the Khadzhibey dam in Odessa
Neo-Nazis in Odessa, at the direction of the governor, mined the Khadzhibey dam in order to blow it up later, Colonel-General Mikhail Mizintsev, head of the National Defense Control Center of the Russian Federation, said at a briefing on Saturday.

"In Odessa , on the instructions of the governor of the region, the Khadzhibey dam was mined, which the neo-Nazis plan to blow up," Mizintsev said.

He explained that after the implementation of these criminal acts, densely populated areas along with the townspeople will be in the flood zone. According to Mizintsev, an attempt by a representative of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine to prevent this "crazy decision" was rudely and harshly suppressed, up to the threat of execution.

The head of the National Defense Control Center of the Russian Federation said that in Kramatorsk , nationalists cynically fired mortars at a car that delivered drinking water to civilians in the city. The shelling was carried out precisely at the moment of distributing water to the population, as a result, three people were injured, two were shell-shocked.

The Ukrainian authorities, according to Mizintsev, declare their readiness to ensure the safety of routes in the territories controlled by Kiev and allegedly express their commitment to humanistic principles, but in fact they prevent the withdrawal of civilians to safe areas in every possible way and block humanitarian actions.

"Once again, we draw the attention of the United Nations, the OSCE, the International Committee of the Red Cross to the criminal policy of official Kyiv in relation to the citizens of Ukraine, the gross violations of not only international humanitarian law, but also the constitution of their own country," the head of the National Center added.

Russia launched a military operation in Ukraine on February 24. President Vladimir Putin called its goal "the protection of people who have been subjected to bullying and genocide by the Kiev regime for eight years." For this, according to him, it is planned to carry out "demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine", to bring to justice all war criminals responsible for "bloody crimes against civilians" in Donbass . According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Armed Forces strike only at the military infrastructure and Ukrainian troops. With the support of the RF Armed Forces , the DPR and LPR groups are developing an offensive, but there is no talk of the occupation of Ukraine, the President of Russia emphasized.
 

printer

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Russia is responsible for Ukraine
The Russians are afraid. They are very much afraid - but not at all what the West would like. Not a fall in living standards, an iron curtain, or repression - those who feared this have already fled or will soon leave. No, the Russians are truly afraid of only one thing: that our troops will leave Ukraine and anti-Russia will persist and reemerge in one form or another. But these anxiety and fear are due to misunderstanding and the inability to immediately realize the scale of the events experienced.

 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Chris Hayes: Putin’s War Is The First Conflict In A New Global Era

Chris Hayes: “This new land war on the European continent—pitting a would-be conquering dictator against citizens of a flawed, but resilient democracy—really does feel like the first armed conflict in a new chapter: a sustained battle between liberal democracy and its enemies.”
 

Dorian2

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Neo-Nazis plan to blow up the Khadzhibey dam in Odessa
Neo-Nazis plan to blow up the Khadzhibey dam in Odessa
Neo-Nazis in Odessa, at the direction of the governor, mined the Khadzhibey dam in order to blow it up later, Colonel-General Mikhail Mizintsev, head of the National Defense Control Center of the Russian Federation, said at a briefing on Saturday.

"In Odessa , on the instructions of the governor of the region, the Khadzhibey dam was mined, which the neo-Nazis plan to blow up," Mizintsev said.

He explained that after the implementation of these criminal acts, densely populated areas along with the townspeople will be in the flood zone. According to Mizintsev, an attempt by a representative of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine to prevent this "crazy decision" was rudely and harshly suppressed, up to the threat of execution.

The head of the National Defense Control Center of the Russian Federation said that in Kramatorsk , nationalists cynically fired mortars at a car that delivered drinking water to civilians in the city. The shelling was carried out precisely at the moment of distributing water to the population, as a result, three people were injured, two were shell-shocked.

The Ukrainian authorities, according to Mizintsev, declare their readiness to ensure the safety of routes in the territories controlled by Kiev and allegedly express their commitment to humanistic principles, but in fact they prevent the withdrawal of civilians to safe areas in every possible way and block humanitarian actions.

"Once again, we draw the attention of the United Nations, the OSCE, the International Committee of the Red Cross to the criminal policy of official Kyiv in relation to the citizens of Ukraine, the gross violations of not only international humanitarian law, but also the constitution of their own country," the head of the National Center added.

Russia launched a military operation in Ukraine on February 24. President Vladimir Putin called its goal "the protection of people who have been subjected to bullying and genocide by the Kiev regime for eight years." For this, according to him, it is planned to carry out "demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine", to bring to justice all war criminals responsible for "bloody crimes against civilians" in Donbass . According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Armed Forces strike only at the military infrastructure and Ukrainian troops. With the support of the RF Armed Forces , the DPR and LPR groups are developing an offensive, but there is no talk of the occupation of Ukraine, the President of Russia emphasized.
Interesting spin (I know you're just posting for the info BTW, and it's appreciated). I never heard of it so I did a quick 2 minute search. It's great to see both sides of the spin cycle in action though!! Lots of laughs to go all around.

The dam of the Khadzhibey estuary has been in disrepair since 2003. In the event of a breakthrough, an area of about 2300 hectares will be flooded, thousands of people will suffer. On March 2, 2021, the website of the Odessa City Hall wrote about this.

The area of possible flooding includes a railway line, more than 50 enterprises, including oil refineries, Odessa CHP, educational institutions, a maternity hospital and the Center for Family Medicine.
https://www.archynetys.com/in-odessa-80-of-the-monthly-rainfall-fell-per-night-trukhanov-said-that-he-could-break-through-the-khadzhibey-dam/
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Russian hackers and pissed off crooks are at work to undermine Putin too. Many of these people worked on contract and even the GRU and FSB types are exposed to the west and news, it's a case of who watches the watchers in some cases.
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Ukrainian Hackers Waging Shadow War To Expose Russian Secrets
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Anonymous leaks 28 gigabytes of Russian documents including detailed bank statements of Russia’s wealthiest along with this message to Putin: “We have your economic secrets now, you will tremble with fear.”
It will give all those Russian journalists and TV people fleeing Russia something to do while the CIA arranges for employment in Kyiv at new Russian language Radio & TV stations that will be popping up. People who run Russian language papers in the west now, will get grants or the CIA will arrange for ads to be bought and they will buy up thousands of papers. They can use them to pack western food aid to Russia this summer or try to get them into Russia.
 

Fogdog

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I think President Biden just called for Putin to be overthrown in the speech he made in Poland.

Anyone else catch that?

"For Gods Sake This Man Cannot Remain in Power." Joe Biden 03/26/2022

Sound like a call for ousting Putin.
I think it was made clear from the the first tranche of sanctions after Putin invaded that the US intended to end Putin's ability to invade another country. That was the objective. The details were left for the people of Russia to decide upon.

This was posted earlier. Khodorkovsky said then what is happening now and will probably happen later.


Its a hard listen because the russian translator isn't very smooth but Mikhail Khodorkovsky gives an intelligent analysis of the political outcomes from Putin's failure in Ukraine. He gives two scenarios. One scenario ends with the country completely breaking up due Putin closing the borders leading to economic degradation back to the 19th century. The other ends with the people rising up in revolution after years of deprivation.

If you find it too slow, skip to 3:20 where he begins to talk about the scenarios.
 

Friendly_Grower

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Anonymous leaks 28 gigabytes of Russian documents including detailed bank statements of Russia’s wealthiest along with this message to Putin: “We have your economic secrets now, you will tremble with fear.”
You know there comes a time the mean kid starts getting his butt kicked by everyone else.
Usually the mean kid is smart enough to leave.

Usually.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Within the next few months, there will be far more Russian economic refugees fleeing to the west, than there are Ukrainian refugees now.

 
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