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Zelensky says he’s been invited to G-20 summit
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenksy said on Wednesday that he had been invited to the Group of 20 (G-20) summit, which is set to take place in November.

“Had talks with [Indonesian President Joko Widodo]. Thanked for the support of [Ukrainian] sovereignty and territorial integrity, in particular for a clear position in the UN. Food security issues were discussed. Appreciate inviting me to the @g20org summit,” Zelensky tweeted.

Widodo is the current G-20 chairman.

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Zelensky says he’s been invited to G-20 summit

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenksy said on Wednesday that he had been invited to the Group of 20 (G-20) summit, which is set to take place in November. “Had talks with [Indonesian President Jok…
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Would be cool to see Zelensky sitting in Putin's seat with the place card on the table with Russia overwritten with Ukraine.
 
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Zelensky says he’s been invited to G-20 summit
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenksy said on Wednesday that he had been invited to the Group of 20 (G-20) summit, which is set to take place in November.

“Had talks with [Indonesian President Joko Widodo]. Thanked for the support of [Ukrainian] sovereignty and territorial integrity, in particular for a clear position in the UN. Food security issues were discussed. Appreciate inviting me to the @g20org summit,” Zelensky tweeted.

Widodo is the current G-20 chairman.

President Biden said last month that Russia should be removed from the G-20, a topic he said was discussed during a meeting with NATO members and European allies in Brussels.

The president said he raised the possibility of Ukraine being able to observe and attend meetings at the G-20 gathering later this year should other nations disagree on the question of expelling Russia from the group.

The United States and Russia are among the members of the G-20. Ukraine is not a member.

Amid Russia’s ongoing invasion of Ukraine, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen skipped multiple G-20 meetings earlier this month in protest of the conflict.

Several other officials said they walked out of some of the G-20 meetings.

“Earlier my representatives, along with US & Canadian counterparts left today’s G20 meeting in Washington as Russian delegates spoke,” British Finance Minister Rishi Sunak tweeted at the time. “We are united in our condemnation of Russia’s war against Ukraine and will push for stronger international coordination to punish Russia.”

“The world’s democracies will not stand idly by in the face of continued Russian aggression and war crimes. Today Canada and a number of our democratic partners walked out of the G20 plenary when Russia sought to intervene,” Canadian Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland said.

Russia’s ambassador to Indonesia said last month that Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected to attend the G-20 summit later this year.
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Zelensky says he’s been invited to G-20 summit

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenksy said on Wednesday that he had been invited to the Group of 20 (G-20) summit, which is set to take place in November. “Had talks with [Indonesian President Jok…
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Would be cool to see Zelensky sitting in Putin's seat with the place card on the table with Russia overwritten with Ukraine.
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good for him....

that would be cool though
 
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Kin hell :lol:
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I have been painted with the same brush in the past. Sometimes the written word does not give the desired meaning. I have been educating a person in Sweden on a technical field. He says that I am good at explaining it, mind you it takes me a lot longer writing for him as I take no words for granted and make it real obvious what message I am trying to get across.

I am pretty sure everyone here has at one time or the other.
 
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Russia’s retaliation on gas raises stakes for U.S.
Russia is taking a retaliatory step the U.S. and its allies have been bracing for – cutting off gas exports to two European nations, a move that escalated tensions and raised concerns about the possibility of Russia widening the stoppage to other nations.

The Biden administration has long warned that Russia would weaponize its energy exports, but sought to work in lockstep with European allies on their own timelines to reduce reliance on Russian gas and oil.

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Russia’s retaliation on gas raises stakes for U.S.

Russia is taking a retaliatory step the U.S. and its allies have been bracing for — cutting off gas exports to two European nations, a move that escalated tensions and raised concerns about the pos…
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Putin may win a battle here but it will cause Russia to lose the greater war.
 
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Some interesting observations, Russia cut off from trade and technology will represent less of a threat, until they get new government and grow a new attitude. If they want to wage war, they will do it from a weakened position both economically and militarily, the days of people living under the assholes thumb are done, nukes or not. It's up to the people living in a country what they want to be, not these paranoid relics from an imperial past. So I say if they want to assert control over their smaller neighbors, let them face a barrage of NLAWs, Javelins and Stingers with warehouses of support in Europe ready to go. Make technology just for them, not top tier, but far better than the Russians have, including killer drones.

Russia needs to be beaten badly in Ukraine, have most of it's irreplaceable equipment destroyed and high tech weapons used up. It is the fastest way to political change in Russia, and the best security for Ukraine and Europe, Vlad and his generation of Soviet leftovers has got to go.
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The River Network of Ukraine’s Importance to Russia | Peter Zeihan

 
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Some interesting observations, Russia cut off from trade and technology will represent less of a threat, until they get new government and grow a new attitude. If they want to wage war, they will do it from a weakened position both economically and militarily, the days of people living under the assholes thumb are done, nukes or not. It's up to the people living in a country what they want to be, not these paranoid relics from an imperial past. So I say if they want to assert control over their smaller neighbors, let them face a barrage of NLAWs, Javelins and Stingers with warehouses of support in Europe ready to go. Make technology just for them, not top tier, but far better than the Russians have, including killer drones.

Russia needs to be beaten badly in Ukraine, have most of it's irreplaceable equipment destroyed and high tech weapons used up. It is the fastest way to political change in Russia, and the best security for Ukraine and the Europe, Vlad and his generation of Soviet leftovers has got to go.
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With the security aparatus in Russia you think that a spark can take hold? Put on a new set of glasses.
 
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With the security aparatus in Russia you think that a spark can take hold? Put on a new set of glasses.
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Putin can die and someone else can take his place. I'm more talking about the former soviet republics who they are trying to assert control over and ripoff territory. Change in Russia will need to be a generational thing, a thriving liberal democratic Ukraine will greatly expedite this process of change, more so if Belarus goes the same way. 80% of Russians live in the neighboring European region of Russia and it will have a big impact on Russia culturally.

The policy is to weaken Russia and use a willing Ukraine to take a few rounds out of them for now, while the Ukrainians liberate themselves. Russia has already been greatly weakened and when their supplies of equipment and especially modern arms are used up they cannot be easily replaced. This appears to be the best we can make out of a bad situation thus far and turn Vlad's mistakes to our advantage.
 
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He was answering a question about how could a viewer trust left wing think tank folks who got the war so wrong. His reply was that practically everyone got the war wrong, so why would you judge other things they had said by that one mistake. Four out of over 100 talking heads came close to saying Ukraine would hold their own.

He went on to explain that since they are pointy headed folks, they looked to history to find their answers instead of actual recent wars.

As his videos goes, this was not a great one. His thing is to bring a progressive point of view to folks who wouldn't normally hear one.
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He’s actually quite good at it, IMO.

I don’t watch him because ”I agree with him”, but because in this day and age, it’s good to hear the thinking of smart people, and it’s important that our shitty “message politics” (rank holdover from Reagan) get some decent messages in play. Beau doesn’t often leave out factors I consider important, and he doesn’t insert made-up shit to account for things; his ‘areas of strengths’ overlap somewhat with mine, so I often check my take on something against his.

It turns out I often think he agrees with *me*, because I’ve been watching him for a few years now & he’s always been solid, well-sourced, well-grounded in reality, with a real clear take on the most important things. I share his stuff more than I share anyone’s.

For whatever that’s worth
 
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I have been painted with the same brush in the past. Sometimes the written word does not give the desired meaning. I have been educating a person in Sweden on a technical field. He says that I am good at explaining it, mind you it takes me a lot longer writing for him as I take no words for granted and make it real obvious what message I am trying to get across.

I am pretty sure everyone here has at one time or the other.
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No worries, I guess I should make better effort to let my cousins across the pond (I'm assuming that's where you are) to know when I'm being sarcastic. I thought it was obvious when I said that Putin was an avid humanitarian though, but ah well. I mean jings, I had a group of folks on here sure I was serious when I said I used Breitbart as a source when I was attempting to prove that I wasn't a right-wing nut :lol:

We communicate in sarcasm a lot where I'm from, I dare say I should learn to be more international in my posts.
 
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World bank says $60 billion in damage so far to Ukraine, say $100 billion. However Ukraine's GDP is expected to shrink by 45% in 2022 and there were lot's of other damages done to the country and it's people. So if Vlad is worth $200 billion stashed abroad by proxies, then it along with other Russian money now seized, should go a long way towards rebuilding Ukraine and the matter of restorative justice. Russia is unlikely to destroy much more of Ukraine, because they can't make any further progress in their war and soon it will be going in the direction of their boarders.

I think we are going to see a guerilla warfare and sabotage campaign of epic proportions this summer. When the Ukrainians wear the Russians down and receive new heavy arms they will counter attack and the Russian army in parts of Ukraine might collapse. We will see what the heavy artillery, tanks, drones, APCs and heavy unrelenting gruella attacks can do to the Russians, when the Ukrainians are ready and the Russians are weakened.
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Canada pushing allies to seize, redistribute Russian assets


Former Ukrainian infrastructure minister Volodymyr Omelyan discusses the damage in Ukraine from the war, Canada's proposal for legislation and rebuilding Ukraine.
 
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The True Effectiveness Of Russian Sanctions

The war in Ukraine is not just being fought with guns and missiles, but also with economic sanctions on Russia. But how effective will these sanctions be against the billionaire Russian oligarchs? Author and Putin critic Bill Browder knows — and he shares his thoughts with Katie Phang.
 
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