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BudmanTX

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DIY-HP-LED

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yeah that's the way to take care of a hangover.....toad venom.....wait what?????

They have a whole host of traditional folk remedies like ant bites and shit like that, if you think medical ignorance and misinformation are an issue for America, then Russia is whole new world of weird.
 

captainmorgan

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of all the electronics out there.....so russian is taping GPS to the aircraft.......talk bout cheap, so that's where that stolen money went to


I've seen pics of hand held GPS in russian cockpits from years ago, it's not a new problem.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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of all the electronics out there.....so russian is taping GPS to the aircraft.......talk bout cheap, so that's where that stolen money went to

They use glonass satellites for GPS, even cheap western commercial and hobby drones use multiple GPS systems like GPS the EUs and glonass too, for increased accuracy and reliability. It's yet another reason they will lose the war, it's turning out like the Wizard of Oz when the dog toto pulled the curtain back on the wizard and found him at the controls, but naked and jerking off.

Vlad had a Potemkin army, a false front of PR hiding a rotten and incompetent military that was exposed for what it really was when put to the test. The legend of the mighty red army is gone and soon most of Vlad's army will be gone too and along with it the fear of it by other countries, more of them will tell Vlad to go fuck himself, just as the Ukrainians did, they set the future pattern IMHO.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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So, how small will the next country Vlad will be able to invade be? If it has it's people behind the government and some western military aid? If he gets hammered enough in Ukraine and his army collapses with much of it's equipment captured or destroyed a pretty small country could take the fuckers on in a defensive war with timely outside help and some training and equipment beforehand. If the people are with you and motivated then reserve forces properly trained equipped and lead can do a lot against an army like Russia's, particularly if they are allied with other smaller nations. Unless Vlad signs a peace with Ukraine, they will be signing alliances with other countries in the region and will be the biggest kid on the block in the area for sometime to come, with Uncle Sam's help. Georgia and Belarus are small countries and their only hope of independence from Russia would be joining with Ukraine in a military alliance. It might be best if Ukraine stays out of NATO, why bother when they have their arms, training and support. This will give them the freedom of action to pound Vlad until he stops being a pain in the ass to Ukraine and move the fight to other places.
 
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BudmanTX

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Belarus is gonna be a problem with Yosh at the wheel, get him out then things would change. Now Georgia on the other hand, now they if they wanted to, they could rise up and start another war and take those 2 states back and maybe even expand to include the sea of azov....
 

HGCC

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Support motivated people who want to be free and will fight for it, support people not strong men. The current battle is against strongmen and authoritarians, not a long discredited ideology. It is very much for liberal democracy, we don't need to spread it, as much as support it when it arises. It is also against corruption, in Ukraine too and that's why they elected Zelenskiy and his party, to try and deal with it by moving closer to the EU with it's regulations and checks on corruption.

Ukraine is the best bet Uncle Sam has had for a long time, it will change the face of Europe, end Russia as a super power, other than using nukes to commit suicide with for the most part. It will also greatly promote the cause of freedom, because courage is contagious, Russia will be weak and was an empire of conquest by ethnic Russians for the most part. Belarus might be next and Georgia has a score to settle too, much depends on how badly Vlad's army is destroyed in Ukraine and what he has left afterwards. All former Republics will be against them and perhaps will form a defensive military alliance against them to ensure their future independence. A few years could see Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia and perhaps others in a defensive alliance against Russian aggression.
Dammit....the both sides trolls really suck. I don't talk American imperialism anymore because those that do are generally full of shit and then badly segue into some terrible point about their terrible views. There is a pretty long history of replacing a strongman dictator with a different one that aligns with our business interests, in the name of liberal democracy. I'm cynical, what can I say.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Belarus is gonna be a problem with Yosh at the wheel, get him out then things would change. Now Georgia on the other hand, now they if they wanted to, they could rise up and start another war and take those 2 states back and maybe even expand to include the sea of azov....
That's Yushchenko's problem, he no longer will have Vlad to back him and his own army might feel more confident. His opposition is so strong the Russians are near occupying the place now. Secret Ukrainian talks with some elements in their military could result in a coup and Ukrainian help, after they dealt enough with the Russians would mean it succeeds. They stage a coup, blow the rail lines from Russia and hold out long enough to get recognized and officially ask for Ukrainian help. If Vlad wants to continue to fight, give him one, on your terms and a place and time of your choosing. Defeat Russia and then a coup in Belarus before Vlad's military can recover.

When you win a battle it is best to exploit your victory while the enemy is stunned, weak and confused. You can be ready to go and take advantage of circumstances, like if the Russians kill Vlad and his successor is scrambling for power, then the do the Belarus coup.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It might be best if Ukraine stays out of NATO, why bother when they have their arms, training and support. This will give them the freedom of action to pound Vlad until he stops being a pain in the ass to Ukraine and move the fight to other places.
it never occured to you that that is the U.S.'s plan for them?
 

printer

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DIY-HP-LED

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Dammit....the both sides trolls really suck. I don't talk American imperialism anymore because those that do are generally full of shit and then badly segue into some terrible point about their terrible views. There is a pretty long history of replacing a strongman dictator with a different one that aligns with our business interests, in the name of liberal democracy. I'm cynical, what can I say.
This bunch in Ukraine ain't Afghanistan, they will die with the weapons we give them in their hands, this is a war of national salvation and survival. America's mistake in Vietnam was it was fighting a national independence movement, in the wake of asshole French colonialism. It wasn't really a war against communism, it wasn't communism that motivated them, it was a way to get Russian help, for them it was a war of national liberation. That is why America and the South lost in Vietnam, they were up against an irresistible force. The Russians are in the same spot now, on their doorstep and the enemy is just as able and even better supplied and equipped than they were. The pros in the US military know they were beat fair and square and learned lessons from it, those lessons are being used against Russia in Ukraine now, using the same rules of proxy war.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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it never occured to you that that is the U.S.'s plan for them?
I figure Uncle Sam will use them to beat on Vlad and cause them endless shit and trouble. Ukraine might be enthusiastic about this, since if Vlad is having trouble in other places, it gets him off their back. Like I said, with western help, Ukraine will be the strongest military power on the continent in a couple of years or less and can form a NATO like alliance of former nervous soviet republics to contain Russia. If anybody doesn't think China will take advantage in central Asia with it's minerals and oil is naïve or mad. 80% of the Russian population lives in Europe, west of the Urals, near to both Belarus and Ukraine, most live in cites that are not distant at all, if Belarus and Ukraine were liberated. Finland joining NATO will mean TV and radio transmitters on the border directing broadcasts to St. Petersburg, Russia's second largest city. The cultural, linguistic and family ties are too strong and an iron curtain down the middle of the Russian speaking world won't work very well for Russian dictators. Even after this war, most of the refugees in Ukraine will be Russians who agree with Ukrainian culture and politics of liberal democracy. Most of Russia's brains will end up in Ukraine eventually, all their dissident TV and radio people will. The fastest way to change Russia culturally and politically is with a free Belarus and powerhouse Ukraine, with a military they dare not fuck with.

I'm sure the big brains and policy wonks at state and the CIA are cumming in their shorts and panties at the possibilities this open can of worms presents. If an ill informed dummy like me can think of it they can do much better! :lol: Vlad truly fucked himself in a epic way, this one will be remembered for ages and they might put something on the wall at Foggy Bottom to commemorate it. Seriously, America could not have fucked Vlad any more than he fucked himself and it presented the perfect opportunity for retribution for inflicting Trump on ya. Anybody who would do that needs to be utterly destroyed and ole Joe just found the key and guess what, it doesn't cost very much at all and will most likely be paid back from Russian money eventually. This is much better and more efficient than Iraq or Vietnam, when ya back people who are worth a fuck and share your values.
 
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