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DIY-HP-LED

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A sign of desperation, Putin is out of drones and artillery is not nearly as effective without them and his tactical intelligence is fucked too. These are reconnaissance drones and might be controlled by radio, or they can fly autonomously using commercial GPS and avoid much of the jamming equipment, if they are properly shielded. They look kinda stealthy too and might be hard for radars to detect, flying wings are naturally stealthy.

Perhaps Uncle Sam could cut a deal with Israel to strike the Russian planes on the ground at the Iranian airports as they are loading the drones? What would Russia have to trade for these? Grain or nuclear technology? The price was high, whatever the trade.

 

Roger A. Shrubber

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A sign of desperation, Putin is out of drones and artillery is not nearly as effective without them and his tactical intelligence is fucked too. These are reconnaissance drones and might be controlled by radio, or they can fly autonomously using commercial GPS and avoid much of the jamming equipment, if they are properly shielded. They look kinda stealthy too and might be hard for radars to detect, flying wings are naturally stealthy.

Perhaps Uncle Sam could cut a deal with Israel to strike the Russian planes on the ground at the Iranian airports as they are loading the drones? What would Russia have to trade for these? Grain or nuclear technology? The price was high, whatever the trade.

there are two countries i've never heard one good thing out of my entire life, russia and iran...EVERY time i see either one in the news, i already know it's not going to be because they're being awarded a medal for their humanitarian works...i say put the same sanctions on iran that we have on russia. seize any foreign assets, lock them out of the world banking system, embargo their oil...fuck, we should just back Israel bombing the ever living fuck out of them, it would be the only time we could trust Israel to act in both of our best interests
 

husita

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there are two countries i've never heard one good thing out of my entire life, russia and iran...EVERY time i see either one in the news, i already know it's not going to be because they're being awarded a medal for their humanitarian works...i say put the same sanctions on iran that we have on russia. seize any foreign assets, lock them out of the world banking system, embargo their oil...fuck, we should just back Israel bombing the ever living fuck out of them, it would be the only time we could trust Israel to act in both of our best interests
Interesting thing is, when I was speaking to people who actually visited Iran, they say there are the most kind and lovely people there. They even drink alcohol when in desert, saying alah doesn´t see it here. It was a modern country before imams took over.
 

injinji

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Interesting thing is, when I was speaking to people who actually visited Iran, they say there are the most kind and lovely people there. They even drink alcohol when in desert, saying alah doesn´t see it here. It was a modern country before imams took over.
Most folks don't know the history. In 1956 the CIA overturned their elected government and put the Shah in power. And we helped keep him in power until he was removed in 1979. So yea, they don't have a lot of love for the US government. The nuclear deal was helping them get back on their feet, then trumpf axed it.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Interesting thing is, when I was speaking to people who actually visited Iran, they say there are the most kind and lovely people there. They even drink alcohol when in desert, saying alah doesn´t see it here. It was a modern country before imams took over.
i've met iranians, and most of them seemed like decent people...but their government is a different story. they're criminal fucks who force their views on all their citizens, even though the majority hates them. (sound familiar? looking at you, republicans...) but you don't get to negotiate with the people, you get to negotiate with the fucking criminal religious zealot leaders.
so my opinion stands, the country of iran is up to no good, and as far as i can see, it hasn't been up to anything even close to good since before i was alive
 

Sativied

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Interesting thing is, when I was speaking to people who actually visited Iran, they say there are the most kind and lovely people there. They even drink alcohol when in desert, saying alah doesn´t see it here. It was a modern country before imams took over.
Yeah those Mongols build them roads, sewers and gave them high speed internet in the 14th century. :lol: It was a shithole, that sided with nazis, so Soviet Union and UK replaced their leader in 1941. Decade+ later their liberal democratic leader wanted to nationalize the oil industry instead of letting the west exploit them, so the US and UK intelligence agencies replaced their pm with the nazi supporter again. This led to a temporary situation where people looked like westerns, which their leader enjoyed cause they looked like Aryans, not jews or arabs. Shah was such an authoritarian nazi dick people ended up revolting and choose the opposition leader, Khomeini, to lead them and they became the islamic republic. Iran means ”Home of the Aryans”. It is fiction and propaganda to suggest Iran was a modern (in any sense of the word) country before those mean muslims took over.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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we should send just as many drones to Israel and tell them to go wild in iran...i would suggest doing the same with the saudis...but fuck those murdering fuckers in the ear...i'm not fond of Israel, but i fucking hate the Saudis, they are everything conspiracy theorists accuse the U.S. government of being, and worse
Israel can make all the drones it needs, they are a big arms exporters these days, Uncle Sam could foot the bill for them though, they are Jews after all! :lol:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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we should send just as many drones to Israel and tell them to go wild in iran...i would suggest doing the same with the saudis...but fuck those murdering fuckers in the ear...i'm not fond of Israel, but i fucking hate the Saudis, they are everything conspiracy theorists accuse the U.S. government of being, and worse
Just giving the Israelis starlink access for their drones would allow them to range all over Iran at tree top level attacking targets of opportunity, the latency is getting lower and bandwidth is getting bigger as the satellites go up. Their phased array transceiver antennas are mostly steered electronically and don't need to gimbal like the older military drones that need large antennas locked onto a limited number of satellites. They should be able to use starlink on much smaller more maneuverable drones and it is as cheap as a starlink terminal in the plane.
 

husita

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It is fiction and propaganda to suggest Iran was a modern (in any sense of the word) country before those mean muslims took over.
Compare with Saudi Arabia, another regional power. Yes, It wasn´t as Ataturks Turkey. Reza (older) was more antisoviet then pro-nazi, thats why he was replaced after 1941, before the date, Hitler and Stalin were allies.
Look at Iran in sixties and now, teocratic dictatorship.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Like Trump, this war reveals who the real assholes are and puts human weaknesses and character flaws on full display. It is good that we know where people stand and more importantly why. One thing about this war is it drove the hawks, national security and military communities away from the republicans and towards the democrats. The insurrection and the war put the seal on Trump and his brand of crazies and they will drag the rest of the other assholes down with them because they have no character to hold them up. Trump, the big lie and their stand on the war in Ukraine sets them apart from normal folks who believe in liberal democracy, the constitution and the rule of law.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Just a few HIMARS can cause havoc among the Russians, if they have enough rockets and the Russians are drone blind. As they used to say, it was time to sprinkle a little shit in Charlie's rice. Any time Uncle Sam want's Vlad to feel more pain he ups the number of systems and rockets, even supplying different kinds with different ranges. However a short war does not seem to be in America or Ukraine's long term security interests, we don't want the Germans going back to Russian gas anytime soon. The poor might starve and Europe freeze this winter, but it's kinda up to them to supply Ukraine with enough weapons to finish off the Russians quickly.

I think the long term idea is to drive Russia out of Ukraine and develop it's gas and oil to remove European dependency on Russia. First the Russian army in Ukraine has to be destroyed and evicted, Ukraine must also have the ability to retaliate against targets deep inside Russia, if they persist on firing on Ukraine after being evicted. Taking out rail bridges, military targets and vital infrastructure would be a logical way to retaliate, not targeting cities. Except for perhaps a direct conventional suicide drone or cruise missile attack on the Kremlin and Vlad personally, with a couple of hundred. Cheap domestically produced long range suicide drones and cruise missiles could do the job, while leaving clean hands for everybody except China. Parts, materials and components are often easier to get than complete systems, so rolling your own has many advantages including reduced costs.
 
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