printer
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"But the President can decide what to declassify."
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BudmanTX
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and boooom comes the hammer from the EU.......
see ya pooty
see ya pooty
DIY-HP-LED
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They can tell it to the judge, because that's the only place where it would count. First up, the plea and the only thing the judge wants to hear then is guilty or not guilty. After that he is remained to the custody of the court and the judge owns his ass, can set bail and conditions of release, or hold him in custody for serious crimes or if he is an ongoing threat. This is a very serious crime with very serious time and a great deal of evidence, most people would not even get bail over something like this. Once Donald enters the "machine", he is just another citizen and there are no provisions in the law for ex-presidents.
BudmanTX
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Armed Service Committee is stepping up, guess what they wanna give UA.....game changer like the HIMARS
www.defensenews.com
Senators urge Pentagon to send advanced Gray Eagle drones to Ukraine
The senators are pushing the Pentagon to modify the MQ-1C Gray Eagle drones so that the U.S. can transfer them to Ukraine.
www.defensenews.com
Roger A. Shrubber
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Kind of a weak response, when they just had the chance of chances to end this once and for all handed to them on a gilded platter, and they refused to put boots on the ground. The missile landing in Poland was the perfect invitation for an armed response, and NATO wasn't even vaguely interested.
that was a signal to me that NATO has no intention of ever putting boots on the ground in russia, and will let every Ukrainian die before they move to save them, if saving them requires putting any of their forces into action...
the PREMIER peace keeping force of the free world is just a bunch of gutless wonders...we could be celebrating Ukraine's victory over russian oppression right now, but instead, we're looking at probably tens of thousands more deaths, billions in more property damage, more chances of global starvation, a certainty of global inflation...
DIY-HP-LED
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I dunno about the value of these high-tech expensive drones in Ukraine, perhaps the Russians air defenses are degraded enough. It seems to me that cheaper options for the basically the same capability might be better suited. Who really wants it, the generals or the industry lobbyists? The Ukrainians will take whatever they can get and test it out for them in battlefield conditions too.Armed Service Committee is stepping up, guess what they wanna give UA.....game changer like the HIMARS
Senators urge Pentagon to send advanced Gray Eagle drones to Ukraine
The senators are pushing the Pentagon to modify the MQ-1C Gray Eagle drones so that the U.S. can transfer them to Ukraine.
The future Russian army might be better trained and organized, but they won't have any technology and soon Iran won't either, as their parts sources are tracked down from wrecked drones and missiles and new sanctions have come into place too. Russia only has 100 cruise missiles left they estimate, and drones are now much easier to shoot down using guns, without wasting missiles on them. Every week Ukraine's air defenses get better with new systems and improved organization. Each large power substation transformer will have point defense with guns at least and larger infrastructure like large cities defended by modern AA missile systems, some with a 100% kill ratio so far.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
considering that we have oopsied civilian airliners out of the sky, discretion regarding Poland is in my estimation a good thing.
Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
DIY-HP-LED
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Keep NATO out of it, unless it warrants it, the Europeans are like trying to herd cats and it needs to be a credible threat. Even though it costs them dearly, I think the Ukrainians would now like the honor to themselves. The war has entered the "punishment" phase for the Russians and the Ukrainians want to do the punishing, they have the right.
BudmanTX
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actually weither you know it or not NATO is on the ground, look at all the legions in UA, this also double the support of EU countries to UA, and since NATO itself has designated a State Sponsor, guess who else in involved......Turkey now, long range missle systems, and more drones.....
Poland was quick at looking at all the info first before a response....the missile that landed was russian made, but was fired out of UA as a defense support to prevent the power plant from getting hit....unfortunately it went the wrong direction, now there are some who think that the missle that was launched just flew over and accidently hit Poland....and trust me Russia was very quick in saying "thank you" Russia wants no part of NATO, simply cause NATO would just wipe them off the map.......
BudmanTX
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Iran is still looking for an apology for that.......considering that we have oopsied civilian airliners out of the sky, discretion regarding Poland is in my estimation a good thing.
Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia
Billy the Mountain
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Providing Trump sensitive info is like giving a toddler a handgun
This list is before his most recent Mar-a-Lago escapades and is by no means inclusive:
10. In May 2017, Trump had a chat with Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte in which the Republican shared information about dispatching two nuclear submarines off the coast of the Korean peninsula. By one account, Pentagon officials were "in shock" over Trump's willingness to share such information. "We never talk about subs!" three officials told BuzzFeed News, referring to the military's belief that keeping submarines' movements secret is key to their mission.
9. In September 2019, during a photo-op at an event along the U.S./Mexico border, the president seemed eager to boast to reporters about detailed technological advancements in border security. It fell to Lt. Gen. Todd Semonite, the acting head of the Army Corps, to interject, "Sir, there could be some merit in not discussing that."
8. In July 2019, Trump had an unsecured conversation with U.S. Ambassador to the E.U. Gordon Sondland, while the ambassador was in a Ukrainian restaurant within earshot of others, in which Trump sought information on Ukraine helping target the president's domestic political opponents. Larry Pfeiffer, a former senior director of the White House Situation Room and a former chief of staff to the CIA director, said of the call, "The security ramifications are insane."
7. In February 2018, Trump ignored the pleas of many U.S. officials and recklessly declassified information from the so-called "Nunes Memo" in the hopes of advancing a partisan scheme.
6. In February 2017, Trump discussed sensitive details about North Korea's ballistic missile tests with the prime minister of Japan at a Mar-a-Lago dining area, in view of wealthy civilians/customers.
5. In early October 2019, Trump publicly discussed American nuclear weapons in Turkey, something U.S. officials have traditionally avoided disclosing and/or confirming.
4. In August 2019, Trump published a tweet about a failed Iranian launch, which included a detailed photo. As MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell reported, it wasn't long before observers expressed concern about Trump possibly releasing classified material.
3. In October 2019, Trump needlessly blurted out all kinds of tactical and operational details about the al-Baghdadi mission in Syria. As NBC News reported at the time, "A few of those colorful details were wrong. Many of the rest were either highly classified or tactically sensitive, and their disclosure by the president made intelligence and military officials cringe, according to current and former U.S. officials."
2. In 2020, Trump disclosed the existence of a secret nuclear weapons program to Bob Woodward, to the surprise of national security insiders.
1. Just four months into Trump's presidency, he welcomed Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergei Kislyak into the Oval Office – at the request of Russian President Vladimir Putin – for a visit that was never fully explained.
It was in this meeting that Trump revealed highly classified information to his Russian guests for no apparent reason. The Washington Post reported at the time, "The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said."
Roger A. Shrubber
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i'm not saying who launched the thing, it probably was Ukraine, totally accidentally...what i'm saying is that NATO will avoid actual combat with russia at practically any cost...and that i for one, have very little confidence that they would ever send men into russia, no matter the provocation...
BudmanTX
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go figure.....guess who's under cyber attack now.....EU vs RA....my kung fu is better than your kung fu
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I disagree. If the Russians sent troops into Polish territory, Nato would respond.
They would probably respond to deliberate shelling or bombing of Nato territory as well.
It is good to remember that response can be very varied in scale and type. Nato does not want actual war with Russia. Should it come to that, Putin or his successor would probably get the consensus he needs to use nukes. It only gets worse from there.
DIY-HP-LED
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They (or someone) kinda proved the point! Will no one stand up for their good character? Give them the kind of forbearance the Ukrainians got over the rocket accident? I wonder why...
Someone might shut the lights off in Moscow using the internet, no rockets required.
BudmanTX
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someone might, can't wait till Russia turns into a pariah and disintergrates again, and the people who they attacked....they get to attack backThey (or someone) kinda proved the point! Will no one stand up for their good character? Give them the kind of forbearance the Ukrainians got over the rocket accident? I wonder why...
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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