Wealth distribution in the US

Doer

Doer

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It's Hermann Hesse. Siddhartha. :)

Another set of self-evident rights. For I can always, until the end, wait, think, and fast.
 
Red1966

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UncleBuck said:
what are you then? remember, you're the same guy who says that gays have full marriage equality currently and aren't being denied anything. not to mention your constant attacks on carne because bigots like you beat his fiance to death. you get what you give, stormfront red. and you've earned every bit of derision i throw your way.
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"Marriage equality" is a made up term designed to deceive. I never said anybody wasn't being denied anything. Much like your "closing the achievement gap" is a made up term to mask your belief that blacks are inferior. You really believe that story? I attacked Carna because he was a gold digger, not gay. You trying to pretend there is always some "ism" in anything I say shows your intellectual bankruptcy. You can't argue facts, so you smear. Witness your on going farce that I have any connection to Stormfront. You've accused me of murder, child rape, homosexuality (and gay bashing at the same time), and just about anything else you could think of. And now you pretend to justify your obnoxious behavior? Really? The false accusations you've made in the past justify the false accusations you make now? Nobody here believes you anymore. Your pathetic attempts to promote yourself as RUI's resident troll in chief demonstrate what a loser you are. You can't even fuck your wife. Hell, you couldn't even vacuum up the dried shit off your carpet. I'm not even going to comment on that filthy couch you sit on all day.
 
fb360

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Red1966 said:
Steve Jobs built Apple. With out his efforts, none of those employees would have gotten a dime. Their ideas, that he paid for, had little value until he implemented them. The crux of your statement is that no one should should get paid more than their lowest paid employee, yet shoulder all the risk. Why would anyone start a business under those conditions?
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Actually, Wozniak BUILT Apple... In fact, he solely designed and fabricated the Apple I and Apply II. Without his work, Jobs wouldn't have made any money at Apple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak
 
Winter Woman

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"I have never understood why it is 'greed' to want to keep the money you've earned, but not greed to want to take somebody else's money" Thomas Sowell
 
Doer

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Apple does not make bad products. Everyone knows that. They are expensive and they just work.

And can you imagine the base ignorance of a person that can claim the top Company in the consumer computer space is a FAD? $430 stock price...just a passing fad.

The company that actually invented the personal computer in the 80s, not just bought one from IBM, like Microsoft did.

The young mind is a passing Fad, please get new one.
 
echelon1k1

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Doer said:
Apple does not make bad products. Everyone knows that. They are expensive and they just work.

And can you imagine the base ignorance of a person that can clam the top Company in the consumer computer space is a FAD.

The company that actually invented the personal computer in the 80s, not just bought one from IBM, like Microsoft did.

The young mind is a Fad, please get new one.
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i knew you'd be an apple fan typical douchebag... just because something is expensive does not mean its a decent product. Overpriced and underperforming is a product perfectly matched to a mind like yours, the descriptions are interchangeable...

Base of ignorance you say? have you read some of your own posts lately? they are the al-qaeda of ignorance...
 
Padawanbater2

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Winter Woman said:
"I have never understood why it is 'greed' to want to keep the money you've earned, but not greed to want to take somebody else's money" Thomas Sowell
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Nobody wants to take anyone elses money. I simply want a fair and even playing field for the same chance to earn it.

Can anyone here say with a straight face that the same laws and opportunities are equal for everyone?
 
fb360

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Padawanbater2 said:
Nobody wants to take anyone elses money. I simply want a fair and even playing field for the same chance to earn it.

Can anyone here say with a straight face that the same laws and opportunities are equal for everyone?
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The problem ingrained in any idea of socialism is that the wealthy have enough money to make sure they aren't affected.

The real issue, even with the source you posted OP is that, that distribution is not a Guassian or "normal" distribution. Furthermore, it does not take into account the 20 or so outliers that each have a total wealth of 20b+, and together they have 600b+. Just the top 2, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, have a cumulative wealth of >120b... My first point being, if you were to remove those clear outliers from the sample population, the distribution looks much more equal; there is a drastic difference from the top 20 to the top 100. The 100th might be worth MAYBE 5-10% of #20. And it gets even worse as you continue down the list; so much so, that individuals make 250k a year, are classified with individuals making 200million+ a year.

Anyone who even has a basic understanding of statistics can comprehend that the distribution is very "untelling". It's like the example they use in textbooks where a Community college can claim their average "post salary" of their 10k students is 60k, instead of the actual 25k, because they had 1 individual who made the NBA and makes 10mill/year. Remove that 1 individual, and you get a sample that ACTUALLY represents the reality.

When any type of socialism is enacted in a corrupt society where the extremely wealthy control the power of govt and law making, the 250k gets screwed, and the 200+million guy gets a payday.

If you really want to level the playing field in terms of redistributing wealth, that 250k guy SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHED. The more poor, the greater the relative % you should receive, and the top 100 or so would be the ONLY ones being taken from. The basic issue is that individuals, and their fortunes, are treated as a single unit, and not as an entity that can be broken up into many units. Furthermore, as is clear, it is inherent that socialism IS NOT FAIR. So what justifies taking from those top 100 or so, after they have already amassed their piles of wealth? If you really want to fix the problem, it should be done before, or while they are accumulating their profits. We normally do that in the form of taxes, however there are loopholes used by the extremely rich to bypass said taxes. In conclusion, if you want to redistribute wealth, you need to fix the tax evasion methods used by the extremely rich (top 20), with harsh penalties.

Socialism fails miserably as soon as you start taking from the 250k guy (making 1000x+ less than the top 20); classifying the 250k guy with the 20b guys is laughable.
 
Dr Kynes

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wait... so you guys are saying that rich people have money!!??!! amazing!!!

fuckit, lets burn this motherfucker down!!!

Anarchy! Anarchy!! Anarchy!!

5 years later when all of society has collapsed and the wealthy live in exclusive enclaves guarded by armed private security, and stout walls, the rest of the world gets to wallow in their own crapulence.
 
UncleBuck

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Dr Kynes said:
wait... so you guys are saying that rich people have money!!??!! amazing!!!

fuckit, lets burn this motherfucker down!!!

Anarchy! Anarchy!! Anarchy!!

5 years later when all of society has collapsed and the wealthy live in exclusive enclaves guarded by armed private security, and stout walls, the rest of the world gets to wallow in their own crapulence.
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so, basically no change for you.
 
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