What comes first, ethics or profit?

What comes first?

  • Profit

    Votes: 6 35.3%
  • Ethics

    Votes: 11 64.7%

  • Total voters
    17

bu$hleaguer

Well-Known Member
so then the dream is only for some?
The American dream is a whole different issue. You can't give things away and then expect people to work hard to try to achieve their dreams. It's one or the other. Either you believe you can work hard and be anything you want to be, or you believe that you're owed things and will wait for the handout. Not both.

If an animal's reward for doing a trick is no longer an achievement but is sitting in a trough easy to get they stop doing the trick.
 

spandy

Well-Known Member
The American dream is a whole different issue. You can't give things away and then expect people to work hard to try to achieve their dreams. It's one or the other. Either you believe you can work hard and be anything you want to be, or you believe that you're owed things and will wait for the handout. Not both.

If an animal's reward for doing a trick is no longer an achievement but is sitting in a trough easy to get they stop doing the trick.
Can you shoot it with a pellet gun to get its ass moving?


Best motivator in the world is a mom with a wooden spoon. If yours didn't beat you with one regularly, she failed you as a parent.

Your dad should of only had to whoop your ass once.



I recall movies where people are being whipped, and I'm pretty sure they worked harder when the whip guy started making his rounds. Maybe that's just Hollywood, though.
 

The_Herban_Legend

Well-Known Member
In the example in the OP, $.01 is your profit, so you're essentially breaking even while remaining ethical

Are you saying you believe it's better to turn a $5.00 profit instead even though your employees require government assistance to pay their bills?

Are you against social assistance? Is there really a difference between $0.01 or $5.00?
 

doublejj

Well-Known Member
Is it ethical to sell weed on the black market for profit when it is against the law?
F*ck no!....but there are those willing to risk supplying the underserved patients in non-medical states....don't you think there are still sick patients in states without compassion laws?...
 
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UncleBuck

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If yours didn't beat you with one regularly, she failed you as a parent.
no wonder you're so fucked up. children who are subject to corporal punishment like that have a much higher rate of being all fucked up.

I recall movies where people are being whipped, and I'm pretty sure they worked harder when the whip guy started making his rounds. Maybe that's just Hollywood, though.
hey, it worked in the south a couple centuries ago, amirite?

fucking klansmen.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Is it ethical to sell weed on the black market for profit when it is against the law?
wow.

were you aware that we are on a site that concerns itself with how to grow cannabis?

did you ever buy a bag of weed before oregon legalized medical cannabis not too long ago?

do you realize how much of a rat you seem like right now?
 

nitro harley

Well-Known Member
F*ck no!....but there are those willing to risk supplying the underserved patients in non-medical states....don't you think there are still sick patients in states without compassion laws?...
I am just checking for ethics. There is always a "but" , so we are good.
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
Without sustainable and substantial profits, how can a company exist in order to afford the luxury of the PC directive to be ethical?

Look at Whole Foods which claims to be highly ethical.

And yet, here are some very recent accusations regarding the profit vs. ethics behavior of this darling of left leaning consumers.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/06/25/nyc-whole-foods-pricing-investigation/29263621/
Whole Foods, long known as a higher-priced grocery chain, settled a case in California last year and agreed to pay nearly $800,000 in penalties after pricing discrepancies were found in area Whole Foods in 2012. As part of the settlement, Whole Foods agreed to appoint two state coordinators to oversee pricing accuracy in California, designate an employee at every California store responsible for pricing accuracy and conduct random audits of stores four times a year

Hmmm?
 

tightpockt

Well-Known Member
NO YOU ARE WRONG!

are you fucking stupid or something?

if mcdonads pays a living wage, the problem is solved.
I'm having trouble starting this message since what I'm replying to is so stupid that I don't know where to start.
Either you're a troll or a straight up dummy.
McDonalds the corporation doesn't pay burger flippers and fry shakers, that's the franchise owner.
Somehow you think the franchise owners is responsible for their employees life. Not only does he/she have to put out all of the risk and energy that it takes to start a business, manage said business, worry about his/her mortgage and bills, provide for and feed their family, deal with whatever is going on in their lives and on top of that you think they should have to do the same for the 15 or so people they employ.
Remember the proverb "give a man a fish feed him for a day, teach a man to fish feed him for life"? You seem to think that a franchise owner should just have an endless amount of fishes! Like that's the answer to poverty!
Problem solved! Forget about education, community and family...smh
Don't want to work at wal-mart for $7.50? Don't. Nobody's forcing you.
Don't want to work at McDonalds? Learn a skill..or at least how to speak enlish.
 

bu$hleaguer

Well-Known Member
I'm having trouble starting this message since what I'm replying to is so stupid that I don't know where to start.
Either you're a troll or a straight up dummy.
McDonalds the corporation doesn't pay burger flippers and fry shakers, that's the franchise owner.
Somehow you think the franchise owners is responsible for their employees life. Not only does he/she have to put out all of the risk and energy that it takes to start a business, manage said business, worry about his/her mortgage and bills, provide for and feed their family, deal with whatever is going on in their lives and on top of that you think they should have to do the same for the 15 or so people they employ.
Remember the proverb "give a man a fish feed him for a day, teach a man to fish feed him for life"? You seem to think that a franchise owner should just have an endless amount of fishes! Like that's the answer to poverty!
Problem solved! Forget about education, community and family...smh
Don't want to work at wal-mart for $7.50? Don't. Nobody's forcing you.
Don't want to work at McDonalds? Learn a skill..or at least how to speak enlish.
As a franchise owner that's pretty much exactly how I feel
 

doublejj

Well-Known Member
I am just checking for ethics. There is always a "but" , so we are good.
I think you are confusing ethics with laws....some are willing to disobey unethical laws....some aren't. so were all good....I put my ethics above the law
....... there are those willing to risk supplying the underserved patients in non-medical states....don't you think there are still sick patients in states without compassion laws?...
 
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