What LED is the best value in terms of cost/yield/service life?

Abiqua

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What's the cheapest good US made light with a good spectrum that matches photosynthesis? Nothing Chinese. They're all stupid.
Area 51, or did you mean still in business :)

There are no US made diodes worth a shot, take it up with your overlords. This is all trade dress until newer improvements and monies are allowed in....
 

JSheeze

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Honestly best bang I think IS the cheap Chinese technology.

Hard to beat 530w for $16...
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I'd save $6.75/mo if I used 200w less.
@Northwood

Edit - the sockets were $1 a piece, 30w bulbs were 80 cents each. $35 total is more accurate.
 

Ryante55

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JSheeze

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Hard to beat a used hps off Craigslist if that's the effeciency you want.
Ya the title was "What LED is the best value in terms of cost/yield/service life?", but ya if we're talking any light source, then just go outside or maybe you can find a used 600w HPS + ballast for under $35, still need to buy bulbs though

Best quality bang is CMH imo. Much better spectrum than LED or HPS. Cheaper initial cost than LED but higher operating costs.

The light you choose is based on situational factors. There's pros and cons to all. In terms of initial cost to yield (of all artificial light types) I'd have to say cheap LED or maybe HPS.
 
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GreeneryBob

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Ya the title was "What LED is the best value in terms of cost/yield/service life?", but ya if we're talking any light source, then just go outside or maybe you can find a used 600w HPS + ballast for under $35, still need to buy bulbs though

Best quality bang is CMH imo. Much better spectrum than LED or HPS. Cheaper initial cost than LED but higher operating costs.

The light you choose is based on situational factors. There's pros and cons to all. In terms of initial cost to yield (of all artificial light types) I'd have to say cheap LED or maybe HPS.
Saying CMH has a better spectrum than LEDs is an oversimplified, misleading, and in many cases, false statement.

You can finely tune a fixture to have the EXACT spectrum you want with LEDs, and the diodes are gettting better and better. CMH, while a good option in many cases, has reached a technological plateau and isn't quite an ideal spectrum.
 

JSheeze

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Saying CMH has a better spectrum than LEDs is an oversimplified, misleading, and in many cases, false statement.

You can finely tune a fixture to have the EXACT spectrum you want with LEDs, and the diodes are gettting better and better. CMH, while a good option in many cases, has reached a technological plateau and isn't quite an ideal spectrum.
Lol name one case.
Show me an LED panel with UVB. How bout IR? How bout 480nm
@ChiefRunningPhist

I'd agree that they are the best they'll ever be, but no LED light comes close to the width of CMH spectrum currently.

Once you start to add in UV to LED the effeciency edge is nullified. CMH is real life tested 2.0+ with spectrum width from UVB - IR. LED is good but not as wide as CMH yet, unless there's a LED panel I'm unaware of?
 

ChiefRunningPhist

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Lol name one case.
Show me an LED panel with UVB. How bout IR? How bout 480nm
@ChiefRunningPhist

I'd agree that they are the best they'll ever be, but no LED light comes close to the width of CMH spectrum currently.

Once you start to add in UV to LED the effeciency edge is nullified. CMH is real life tested 2.0+ with spectrum width from UVB - IR. LED is good but not as wide as CMH yet, unless there's a LED panel I'm unaware of?
I'm a big believer in tuneability, and that goes along with SPD as well, so I'd have to agree with @GreeneryBob on the tuneability aspect, but I've also yet to find a board with UVB on it. They make 480nm chips but yet to see them used. I think cheap LED are not as bad as most say.

Though, that's as much as I'm commenting, this seems like a grumpy thread already lol, good luck to everyone on their grows. :bigjoint:
 

ttystikk

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I bought some Chinese/Japanese whatever corn cob LED 3000k 100w bulbs before and they had a faint smell of burning plastic all the time. So I imagine the HLGs also would.
You just made the mistake of comparing a Yugo to a Ferrari because they both look kinda small. Lol

First question; what's your intended use? Are you actually trying to light a dispensary or do you just need a light for a personal grow? Some parameters would help us nail down your best options.
 
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