What we owe the Jews

In case anyone thinks that Khomeini didn't make a distinction between Zionism and Judaism, here is another quote directly from the man.
"We know very well that the Jewish and Zionist communities are not the same. We are against the Zionists and our opposition with them is because they are against religion all together - they are not Jewish. They are political people who commit actions in the name of Judaism. Jewish people have also grown to resent them. In fact, all humans should resent their actions."
 
Barack Obama won a nobel peace prize and is the president of a country that has started most of the wars in the last century. It's possible some of the awards are not indicative of what they claim or portray. Obama is obviously not doing jack shit for world peace.

Seeing people in a collective view can also obliterate the individual qualities or shortcomings they might have. So I'd say congrats to the people that invented important medical cures, but that doesn't mean people that share the same religion as a Jewish scientist share in the accomplishment does it?

Wasn't Sammy Davis Junior jewish? What did he invent?
The glass eye?
 
At one point in time Islam was civilization (not the only one but still). ^^^

Were it not for Islam's safeguarding of knowledge and contribution to it, after the collapse of Rome, along with the incredibly important translation work and contributions of many a sephardi jew, the West would never have had an Enlightenment or Industrial Revolution.

Notions of anyone being superior to anyone else are spurious. The true blight on this planet are our worst qualities: hatred and greed.

The basis of civilization is civility. We need more of it in the world and on this site. preach is over
peace, or as they say in other parts of the world, shalom or salaam
 
At one point in time Islam was civilization (not the only one but still). ^^^

Were it not for Islam's safeguarding of knowledge and contribution to it, after the collapse of Rome, along with the incredibly important translation work and contributions of many a sephardi jew, the West would never have had an Enlightenment or Industrial Revolution.

Notions of anyone being superior to anyone else are spurious. The true blight on this planet are our worst qualities: hatred and greed.

The basis of civilization is civility. We need more of it in the world and on this site. preach is over
peace, or as they say in other parts of the world, shalom or salaam

This

Pure win.
 
Doer in his insatiable urge to rant about "Inner Jihad" seems to have forgotten the fact Iran is almost entirely SHIA, not Sunni.

Shia are way way way way way way way more moderate than Sunnis, Persians are so more civilised and westernised than alot of Americans Iv met/seen on TV.

Mad-mood really gave Iran a bad name in America, maybe you shouldnt have done the whole coup thing and relations would be better?
 
I see no evidence of islam taking non-islamic countries over. I don't, however, follow media that looks for any and all evidence of 'inner jihad'.
I do know that in france, for ex., muslims there are as irreligious as the culture in which they live.
Generally, I believe 'inner jihad' arguments distract from the real problems: education or lack thereof, growth of a strong middle-class, an irrational 'war on terror', etc
I would prefer a rational debate on this versus polemiscists like mark stern and his ilk spewing fear and paranoia.
Perhaps I'm a fool or an agent of inner jihad or a lefty or a subversive or a traitor to my european heritage.........

Just a run of the mill, know nothing, seems to me.

Of course you think that and of course you are an un-witted agent of Jihad.
 
Doer in his insatiable urge to rant about "Inner Jihad" seems to have forgotten the fact Iran is almost entirely SHIA, not Sunni.

Shia are way way way way way way way more moderate than Sunnis, Persians are so more civilised and westernised than alot of Americans Iv met/seen on TV.

Mad-mood really gave Iran a bad name in America, maybe you shouldnt have done the whole coup thing and relations would be better?

Iran is our friend against SUNNI Jihad. There is not SHIA Jihad at present, only Fatwah.

It it licking crumbs from the Media and calling that knowledge.

You both are seriously confused. The Sunni Jihad is from the Wasab in Saudia Arabia.
 
At one point in time Islam was civilization (not the only one but still). ^^^

Were it not for Islam's safeguarding of knowledge and contribution to it, after the collapse of Rome, along with the incredibly important translation work and contributions of many a sephardi jew, the West would never have had an Enlightenment or Industrial Revolution.

Notions of anyone being superior to anyone else are spurious. The true blight on this planet are our worst qualities: hatred and greed.

The basis of civilization is civility. We need more of it in the world and on this site. preach is over
peace, or as they say in other parts of the world, shalom or salaam

Oh bullshit. The knowledge of civilization was preserved by the Church.
All the good stuff ended up in Ireland. That is why we know what we know,

The Arabs created no knowledge, but the Inner Jihad has been successful to have us raised with these incorrect ideas.

So, I got news. Not Chess, nor Astronomy, nor the Number Zero were invented by the A-rabs. All was pick up from India along the Silk Road.
 
Rome collapsed, the west descended into the dark ages.

About 100 years ago, the Ottoman Empire collapsed, and we now have a modern dark age.


I'll see your ottoman reference and raise you a Kemal Attaturk.

When Aunt Millie came over and we couldn't find her a chair, she sat on the ottoman. Aunt Millie weighs 455 lbs. , the Ottoman collapsed. Darkness everywhere.
 
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