White Widow Waterfarm. 1st Journal on the forums.

Serapis

Serapis

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It sucks to have anything go wrong in a grow, especially this far in. I think it will only show on that one top.... I had that issue as well, two grows ago. Mine showed up with about 3 weeks to go and I was terrified it was some bad omen. The top quit developing, and never regained color. At the time, I wrote it off as a fluke. Now that it has happened again and jogged my memory of the event, I wonder if it isn't something more common that we can prevent? I'm sure I have a pic of it somewhere, I'll have to look for it.

Jim, is your plant pushing up your screen? I think mine is. It almost looks like I need to deflate it. I think next time I should weigh it down in the center? I could also run a bungee down the middle to add support there, but I think a strong plant will still move it. My oldest plant has over 30 new growth tips on it and we haven't even flipped lights yet.

Also, after some more research and reading, I'm going to change my earlier advice about just giving the plants straight water in the end days.... By doing so, we lock out nutrients that are used to break down sugars and chlorophyl, etc. We need to make sure we are feeding the molecular processes, but maybe not as much. I'm going to just start backing off my nutrients in the end and maybe stop at 500 ppm? I'm also hearing that we should unplug the air pump for the last 2 days and let the plant drown to start a fermentation process?
 
jimbizzzale67123

jimbizzzale67123

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Hmmmmm fermentation process, sounds smelly. Can you talk more about what this will do, I am not going out of town anymore so I can harvest whenever I want to now, I think I am going to chop the tops in a week and a half or so maybe more Ill let the trics tell me when they are done. And then I will drop the light and let the buds fill in nicely for a couple more weeks.

I am going to try and take some good pics of all the different leaf problems I have as soon as my light goes off a little after midnight.

I just have too many ideas and it is so fuckin hard to actually accurately identify the exact problem but this is why I spend all day on the internet.

Ohh yea I came across this site and its money.

[video]http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688[/video]
 
jimbizzzale67123

jimbizzzale67123

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So here are some pics, its only affecting 3 buds out of all 43 so its pretty isolated. the plant seems to be exhibiting multiple signs of deficiency I was cautions and I cant complain, I just wish it wasn't all yellow and white and looking so stunted at the tips. Although I thought about it and I will probably only lose like 2grams at the most from the stunted tips if it is light bleaching or multiple deficiency causing trouble so no worries. I probably should have bumped the nutes up a couple of weeks ago I just didn't have the balls. I am pretty sure I will get a good harvest, what a start to the new year.

Sorry for the crazy zoom.

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T.M.B

T.M.B

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Glad to hear its only a few effected that is very strange isnt it,they do look tasty no doubt good job.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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I'm going to worry about nailing the regular dry and cure process before I learn about fermentation. It's an advanced technique that we sometimes stumble upon, but it flirts with mold if I read correctly. However the result is better cured bud. I just got in 14 hygrometers and a dozen half gallon Ball mason jars. One jar that I thought was in cure actually had 71% moisture in it. Now with the hygrometer, I know to burp until it reads about 65%, then I cap again and watch it slowly go back up. This wicking of the internal moisture is fun... ;p
 
Serapis

Serapis

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I got them for abut $6 each. I ordered all of the same kind. 2 of them seem way off, the rest are all within 1 mark of each other, if not dead on.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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jimbizzzale67123 said:
So here are some pics, its only affecting 3 buds out of all 43 so its pretty isolated. the plant seems to be exhibiting multiple signs of deficiency I was cautions and I cant complain, I just wish it wasn't all yellow and white and looking so stunted at the tips. Although I thought about it and I will probably only lose like 2grams at the most from the stunted tips if it is light bleaching or multiple deficiency causing trouble so no worries. I probably should have bumped the nutes up a couple of weeks ago I just didn't have the balls. I am pretty sure I will get a good harvest, what a start to the new year.

Sorry for the crazy zoom.

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Jimbizzzale-100% positive Light burn... Ive seen that many times back the light up some if posible.. but note that even after backing the light up the leaves will not turn back green.. upping your nutrient level could also make it worse putting more salts in the leaves will make it easyier to burn.. But other then the burnt tips on them few looking good..
 
jimbizzzale67123

jimbizzzale67123

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No can do on the light it sucks, I already cut some slits in the top of the tent mounted my light to the ceiling and raised it all the way I am even stretching the top of the tent up to get the most room. I definitely let them get too tall, I dont know if it is nute burn though it looks like it as serapis pointed out I have a bit of a Mg deficiency and I think thats why some of the tips are a bit burnt looking. its hard to get good pics of the leaves but I can definitely see it and I was reading jorges marijuana bible the most recent edition and it definitely seems to be Mg deficiency. I also had P deficiency only on my lower leaves below the screen it never moved up to the other leaves. I dont know if I should have been going higher with the PPM's or not?
 
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jimbizzzale67123

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I thought it was light bleaching because its only on a few buds that are right around the bubl ohh well as said befoe i wont lose that much weight because its only on 3 buds and just the tips.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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jimbizzzale67123 said:
I thought it was light bleaching because its only on a few buds that are right around the bubl ohh well as said befoe i wont lose that much weight because its only on 3 buds and just the tips.
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Its defiantly light bleaching. If was a deficiency you will see it on all the bud sites tips not just 2 or 3 closer to the light defintly not mg deficiency problem as I recall you using Nova Bloom? there is plenty of Mg in Nova bloom. But I agree don't worry about it if its only 3 or 4 tips.. the light being closer is helping the other bud sites more then it will help 2 or 3 sites..
 
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jimbizzzale67123

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SCOTTYBALLS said:
Its defintly light bleaching. If was a defincacy you will see it on all the bud sites tips not just 2 or 3 closer to the light defintly not mg deficancy problem as I recall you using Nova Bloom? there is plenty of Mg in Nova bloom. But I agree dont worry about it if its only 3 or 4 tips.. the light beingcloser is helping the other bud sites more then it will help 2 or 3 sites..
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I will try and get some closer pics a lot of the leaves on the larger colas are light green on the edges, burnt looking on the tips, and have speckled brown spots around the tips, it has been going on for a few weeks now slowley getting worse, I need to take some pictures of a leafe that I can cut off or something that damn light makes it impossible to get good pics. But the smaller bud sites are fine they have no burnt tips its just weird, I know there is a lot of Mg in Nova Bloom but I think the plant was so huge it was using a lot of it and maybe just needed a bit more. I didn't really go past 1800ppm the whole grow maybe the bitch wanted more I will try next time avoiding these problems I will definitely not let it get so tall i vegged way too long.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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jimbizzzale67123 said:
I will try and get some closer pics a lot of the leaves on the larger colas are light green on the edges, burnt looking on the tips, and have speckled brown spots around the tips, it has been going on for a few weeks now slowley getting worse, I need to take some pictures of a leafe that I can cut off or something that damn light makes it impossible to get good pics. But the smaller bud sites are fine they have no burnt tips its just weird, I know there is a lot of Mg in Nova Bloom but I think the plant was so huge it was using a lot of it and maybe just needed a bit more. I didn't really go past 1800ppm the whole grow maybe the bitch wanted more I will try next time avoiding these problems I will definitely not let it get so tall i vegged way too long.
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lol see now you know why my vege time was so short.. plants just never stop growing in waterfarms
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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Serapis said:
I'll probably have the same issue. I should have went 12/12 at least a week ago...
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I noticed that too Serapis.. But trial and error are the best ways to learn.. Ive stretched the vege out a few times and had to do some serious Triming Im not talking a prune here and there Im talking like get the fucking hedge trimmers cause this shit is about to be all up in the light ! .. just keep tucking and weaving much as posible cause its going to stretch allot in a waterfarm.. Ill tell you what I grew a auto flowering Deisel lowryder once that was suposed to be 12-18" tall .. In my waterfarm that bitch grew 4.5 foot and yeilded 12 ounces no bs..
 
Serapis

Serapis

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SCOTTYBALLS said:
I noticed that too Serapis.. But trial and error are the best ways to learn.. Ive stretched the vege out a few times and had to do some serious Triming Im not talking a prune here and there Im talking like get the fucking hedge trimmers cause this shit is about to be all up in the light ! .. just keep tucking and weaving much as posible cause its going to stretch allot in a waterfarm.. Ill tell you what I grew a auto flowering Deisel lowryder once that was suposed to be 12-18" tall .. In my waterfarm that bitch grew 4.5 foot and yeilded 12 ounces no bs..
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Damn... I know this strain pretty well though, I think I'll be OK. I plan on tucking and working the scrog for at least another two weeks. I'm working the long stems out to the edges and the branchouts are filling the middles and in betweens. I'm afraid the right side of the tent is going to be explosive. Stay tned ;p
 
Serapis

Serapis

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I'd like to introduce everyone to my new shadow. It's previous name was Japanesefreak and it was fond of trolling these and other forums. Today he finally wore out his welcome and he received numerous time outs that ended up equaling a ban of some time. He has decided to join us with a newly generated presence, that his screen name makes all too obvious, his purpose. Feel free to ignore him. I'm thinking his posts may get removed.
 
jimbizzzale67123

jimbizzzale67123

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Serapis said:
I'd like to introduce everyone to my new shadow. It's previous name was Japanesefreak and it was fond of trolling these and other forums. Today he finally wore out his welcome and he received numerous time outs that ended up equaling a ban of some time. He has decided to join us with a newly generated presence, that his screen name makes all too obvious, his purpose. Feel free to ignore him. I'm thinking his posts may get removed.
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LOL I just feed the troll, and I am sure I will have him in here. Little does he know that i love to argue and i will go toe to toe with him if he wants, I am always locked into my computer anyways.
 
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