Would you pay more in taxes to make college/university FREE?

Would you pay more in taxes to make college/university FREE?


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I would pay you a dollar to light yourself on fire with the gasoline jug and then throw yourself into the running lawnmower blade...

Think of all the economic activity it would create! Do it for the children!!

a dollar, eh?

grandma needed her lawn mowed, didn't she?
 
i don't agree with free (taxed) college, but i also don't think if people were to go for free, you'd end up with dumb surgeons or dumb engineers or dumb w/e, for the simple fact that these dumb people would still have to take the same exact courses that the smart people who are surgeons and engineers and .... have to take.... if they're as dumb as you say, no way in hell they'd make it all the way to being a surgeon imo, and would probably drop out after the first failed course or two...

High school is FREE. How far do most get on that? Extending high school 4+ years isn't going to change anything.
 
I only approve of government when it protects me

So when exactly is the gov't ever protecting you?

Seems to me you only have a problem with gov't when it fights poverty and eases societal stresses, not when it creates them and not when it protects those who create them. You're a whiny liberal.
 
i'm a moron, so please explain to me how one who fails out of college would result in them becoming wealthy from it..?? mind you, i only have a few brain cells left, so please speak slowly... :D

Seeing as how your thinking is completely ass backwards, I will speak slowly. Listen here young feller, its the contrary. They will fail out of that degree program because they aren't smart enough, due to grade point restrictions as you mentioned. Furthermore, the part you keep missing because you are a moron, is that THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER TRIED IF THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO PAY FOR THE ATTEMPT. Due to the fact THEY ARE GIVEN A FREE SHOT AT A DEGREE, are they not going to attempt to take FULL ADVANTAGE of that FREE MONEY and try to get THE MOST EXPENSIVE DEGREE WHICH RESULTS IN THE MOST WEALTH? I never said that would result in dumber doctors, I said it would result IN WASTED $$$$. You are illiterate though, so you missed that point and attempted to interject it irrelevantly.

In laymans terms:
1. You either lose money by letting everyone try get whatever degree they want for free (most will fail, hence the loss of money)
2. You get dumbed down society by letting everyone through the system with a "pass", resulting in no "wasted" money.

Get it yet? Pretty fucking simple dude.

When you tell someone their schooling, for whatever degree, at whatever school, is COMPLETELY free, they ARE NOT going to choose underwater basket weaving at the shittiest school in their hometown. Rather, everyone and their grandma is going to want a engineering degree from MIT and CalTech, or a dr degree from John Hopkins..

The caps is slowly. Read it twice little one :)

Do you apply for the FAFSA and other sources of grants for school?
No. I've already paid for my bachelors and masters OUT OF POCKET. I didn't even have a scholarship due to the fact I moved my junior year from NY to AZ and the testing standards are 100% different.

I'm against paying peoples tuition, and not because I didn't receive any, but because I went to school as an MSE and watched Asians fresh off the boat from India come over on FULLY PAID school visas and get our education, and then go RIGHT back to India. I talk to many of them, and they all say the same thing, and that is that they are there for schooling and then are bringing their education back home.

Should YOU and I pay for that? Fuck no. Moreover, it is a major reason why our science is SO shitty; because we allocate our funding to individuals who are OUT OF COUNTRY... instead of investing IN HOUSE
 
So when exactly is the gov't ever protecting you?

Seems to me you only have a problem with gov't when it fights poverty and eases societal stresses, not when it creates them and not when it protects those who create them. You're a whiny liberal.

I'd just like to be left alone. I don't want those bullshit programs like: SS, SSI, SSSD, food stamps, TANF, WIC, wars and income tax. They all steal from me. How does that make me a whiny liberal? You're the anarchist who wants government to play Robin Hood. You sure you know the definition of anarchist, you seem to be confused.
 
You want the gov't to play sherrif of Nottingham.

I don't agree with either side. Sun Tzu was a retard. The enemy of my enemy may not necessarily be my friend. They may be my enemy too.

I'm all for fairness. If government doesn't exist, hey no problem as long as some mechanism exists for the protection of the individual from others, cool.

Up till then, we were best buds. Now comes the Chomsky, wage slave, Malthusian, privilege is tyranny and the rest of your other bullshit.

The stupid should fail, and not praised like you think. The stupid need pity and as lessons used to teach what happens if you fuck up.
 
Tough love says they should fail. Our compassion gives them more chances.

Looking up the quote I encounter this. At least some others think like me, but they take bother to write books. I don't know if he mentions the Gestapo.

The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right is a book by political science professor George Michael of the University of Virginia Wise. It examines the alliances between neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, and white separatists with Islamists such as Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Egyptian Islamic Jihad


It was published in April 2006 by University Press of Kansas as a 397-page hardcover (ISBN 0-7006-1444-3).


In the book Michael examines the positions of neo-Nazi and Islamist groups on American foreign policy, the media, modernity, and the so-called New World Order. Both camps share a "fervent anti-Semitism, accompanied by strong pro-Palestinian views, anger over Israel's influence on American policymakers, and opposition to the Iraq War and the U.S. presence in the Middle East.
 
Tough love says they should fail. Our compassion gives them more chances.

Looking up the quote I encounter this. At least some others think like me, but the bother to write books. I don't know if he mentions the Gestapo.

The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right is a book by political science professor George Michael of the University of Virginia Wise. It examines the alliances between neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, and white separatists with Islamists such as Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Egyptian Islamic Jihad


It was published in April 2006 by University Press of Kansas as a 397-page hardcover (ISBN 0-7006-1444-3).


In the book Michael examines the positions of neo-Nazi and Islamist groups on American foreign policy, the media, modernity, and the so-called New World Order. Both camps share a "fervent anti-Semitism, accompanied by strong pro-Palestinian views, anger over Israel's influence on American policymakers, and opposition to the Iraq War and the U.S. presence in the Middle East.

If people don't pay attention to you the first time, posting the same shit across multiple threads isn't going to MAKE them pay attention a second time...
 
UncleBuck, why didn't you vote yet?

Are you willing to have more taxes taken out of your wife's pay or not? LOL!
 
I don't agree with either side. Sun Tzu was a retard. The enemy of my enemy may not necessarily be my friend. They may be my enemy too.

I'm all for fairness. If government doesn't exist, hey no problem as long as some mechanism exists for the protection of the individual from others, cool.

Up till then, we were best buds. Now comes the Chomsky, wage slave, Malthusian, privilege is tyranny and the rest of your other bullshit.

The stupid should fail, and not praised like you think. The stupid need pity and as lessons used to teach what happens if you fuck up.

I feel like this is highly simplistic as not everyone who fails is stupid and not everyone who succeeds is smart. There are many more variables to succeeding in life than intelligence, like opportunity, economic or social status, location, etc.

Most successful people have failed many times before they succeeded.
 
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