feds 'contemplate' new laws to regulate cannabis, do you want gmo weed?

JackTheBongRipper

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i thought i explained the reason for the $...it seems that you might should reread whatever you thought you read that has you reacting this way...
no one said 'all science was for money' or that 'all science was bad' etc thats you taking yourself down a rabbit hole imo...but much corporate 'science' is for 'money' and thats the point and i think you might should think more about that and how it can and will effect this issue just like it has since the beginning of cannabis prohabition...
Dan Crone: "Yeah, put a dollar sign on science and it's evil. Well done. We should all live in caves and die before we are 30, because fuck science and money."
You dude: "purely your words and assumptions, not my words or opinions bro... "

That's your explanation of why you used it? Where was the explanation dude?

Ok, no one said all science was for money, but you didn't say any science was for good, that was my point man. You didn't give any science an inch, I was trying to call you out on that. Ok, maybe me nitpicking, but hey, I thought it was valid.

See how much I'm willing to give to you, but do you do the same and look at your own stance and see where the holes are?
 

DNAprotection

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Dan Crone: "Yeah, put a dollar sign on science and it's evil. Well done. We should all live in caves and die before we are 30, because fuck science and money."
You dude: "purely your words and assumptions, not my words or opinions bro... "

That's your explanation of why you used it? Where was the explanation dude?

Ok, no one said all science was for money, but you didn't say any science was for good, that was my point man. You didn't give any science an inch, I was trying to call you out on that. Ok, maybe me nitpicking, but hey, I thought it was valid.

See how much I'm willing to give to you, but do you do the same and look at your own stance and see where the holes are?
i am not anti science at all, to me what you call science i call the laws of the natural world and i live by such even when usa laws are in direct conflict with such like outlawing a plant etc so i am likely one of sciences biggest fan...i think you've got me all wrong...so how can you know my stance?
 

JackTheBongRipper

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i am not anti science at all, to me what you call science i call the laws of the natural world and i live by such even when usa laws are in direct conflict with such like outlawing a plant etc so i am likely one of sciences biggest fan...i think you've got me all wrong...so how can you know my stance?
Science is simply the study of the natural world, and how to use it to our advantage as a species. I guess we agree. Cool.

Not to derail the thread, but what do you think about the new world order? If we as a species want to advance and colonize other planets or systems we'll need to come together for a single purpose, under a single system of governance.

If you already don't like the way things are going, how are you going to deal with that? It's coming dude. Seriously.
 

DNAprotection

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yup its coming...worried less about one world gov than i am about the borg style compliance techniques that prolly come with it though... ;)
technology increases like ice melts...the more it melts the faster it melts...
 

Twizzlor

Active Member
so in other words if you had a good cow you would trade her to someone that says they'll give you magic beans and a golden goose...maybe your right, after all they did such a good job with ge corn:wall:
I refuse to get into politics but are you saying that the goverment failed with genetically enhancing corn? If so I would love to see where that information comes from.
 

Chimone

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Personally I could care less if its GMO or not. If its legal and I can smoke and grow a couple plants I do not care how we get there. If the only thing available in stores is a multibillion $ company's weed, well then so be it. Keep it cheap and legal and lets move on
 

mangojuice

Active Member
I'd trade that cow for one that produces a higher quality milk in larger volumes. GMO's are not magic nor are they a myth. They are science.
then u would want a Monsanto cow kept on rbgh. They r walking milk factories.breed em once they give 4 years of milk n r ready for slaughter. Drink up if u can find the milk in all that homogenized n pasteurized bottled pus.science is just another story.
 

Collisto's Orbit

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Jonah Salk enlightened them all. "hey, we're not getting paid anymore, because the disease has been eradicated."

Notice there haven't been too many more cures recently. And then try to figure why that is.

How many years of multi millions of dollars gathered from Muscular Dystrophy Telethons, and they have FUCKING ZILCH for its patients? I mean nothing. Those afflicted get steroids, and the disease rages on.
 

DNAprotection

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DNAprotection

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after reading some of this thread , I decided I need to light another joint ! to much reading .
well if you read this part and think it through from there your prolly good to go...


  1. in your 'personal' view, is possessing seeds and growing plants your right?

    should the nation question be 'is possessing seeds and growing plants, 'any' plants (in effort to meet your own needs in order to 'live') your self evident inherent human right?' ?

    or do you think its better that we are all asking 'should we legalize weed?' ???​



 

dangerlow

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GMO = screwing with mother nature. I can almost promise you that GMO foods will at some point cause the near extinction of humans. I have done a lot of work with GMO trees and foods for the DOA. And there are horror stories that would make you sick. One for instance was when they were making corn seeds and plants more hardy so they could plant them much the same way as winter wheat. They made a corn plant that would produce toxins similar to Ricin. Luckily this was discovered early on, because if the pollen went free it could have potentially made all corn on earth poisonous. So do you really want the government fucking with our most precious plant?

"A study published last week in the peer-reviewed Journal of Applied Toxicology revealed that genetically modified corn containing the genes for Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis) is toxic to humans. The study further revealed that the herbicide known as Roundup is toxic to humans, even at small exposures. The vast majority of the corn grown in the U.S. has been engineered to contain Bt and is sprayed with Roundup during the growing process."
 

DNAprotection

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heres something monsanto is dead set against, and we are considering putting it on the ballot in lake county...

The Lake County 'Right to Grow Plants' Human Rights Initiative.


Whereas on this day in the State of California the people of the County of Lake do hereby find that:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are naturally endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in the reestablishment of those rights.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that:
(section) 1.
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to posses the seeds of and partner with and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
(section) 2.
Should any neighbor complaints arise as an official complaint to the county as a result of individuals exercising the rights set forth in section 1., all the effected parties shall be directed to mediation provided for by the County of Lake, and if resolution between the effected parties cannot be achieved in a reasonable effort to mediate, the effected parties shall then continue mediation at their own expense (to be equally divided between the effected parties) until a resolution between the parties can be agreed upon, or until the effected parties agree to withdraw from mediation.
(section) 3.
Any and all County, State or Federal laws where such conflicts may arise as the result of individuals exercising the human rights declared in section 1., are to be set aside depending on if the individual circumstance determines that such conflicts are occurring outside of a 'commerce' related activity as defined herein, and so for the expressed purposes of this document the word "commerce" shall be taken to mean:

'The buying and selling of goods in any form, as between individual humans, and in direct reference to the exchange of United States currency (or other such legally recognized tender) for such goods or services,'
 

DNAprotection

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slaves beg for 'legalization' and 'regulation'...
humans demand their rights...

The Lake County 'Right to Grow Plants' Human Rights Initiative.
Whereas on this day in the State of California the people of the County of Lake do hereby find that:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are naturally endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in the reestablishment of those rights.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that:
(section) 1.
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to posses the seeds of and partner with and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
(section) 2.
Should any neighbor complaints arise as an official complaint to the county as a result of individuals exercising the rights as described in section 1., (not withstanding any effected party choosing to seek remedy and or reparations by way of litigation through civil proceedings), all the effected parties shall be directed to mediation provided for by the County of Lake, and if resolution between the effected parties cannot be achieved in a reasonable effort to mediate, the effected parties shall then continue mediation at their own expense (to be equally divided between the effected parties) until a resolution between the parties can be agreed upon, or until the effected parties agree to withdraw from mediation.
2.(a)
All who exercise the rights described in section 1., shall take care to prevent environmental destruction, and are responsible to mitigate any possible foreseen negative impacts on the natural environments of the County, and all persons who fail or neglect such practices shall be subject to the authority of any County of Lake ordinance(s) that would provide reasonable remedy.
(section) 3.
All County, State or Federal criminal laws that exist in conflict with individuals exercising the human rights as described in section 1., are to be set aside unless it can be determined that the individual circumstance is occurring within the context of 'commerce' related activities as defined herein,
--For the expressed purposes of this document the word "commerce" shall be taken to mean:
'The buying and selling of goods in any form, as between individual humans, and in direct reference to the exchange of United States currency (or other such legally recognized tender) for such goods or services,'
 
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