Unconventional Organics
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iHearAll
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When quartz is exposed to any change in it's crystaline shape from pressure or decompression, it emmits an electrical voltage high enough to spark. When an electron moves a magnetic field is produced/exposed and emmits an eddy current to nearby conductors/ferromagnetic materials.
All living things know when electricity is flowing through or sometimes even near them!
Al Yamoni
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Super cool! Thanks for the share..
MileHighGlassPipes
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Nice info!
Rrog
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Why do I feel this is another example of a stoner taking a piece of science and twisting it into stoner science.
iHearAll
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Ok, thay part was a stretch. The science is real. Go get a crystal and see what kind of voltage.you.can get. There are tutorials around the web. You can also apply a current across it if the crystal is sandwhiched between two conductors. It will vibrate and you'll be able to hear it if it's below 20kHz. (Average peak frequency of human hearing) The animals who have more sensitive ears would be capable of hearing higher frequencies.
The spark ingition of a lighter is a small quartz crystal with a wire on one end and a hammer on the other. When you push down on the spring loaded hammer, the hammer hits the crystal and a spark comes off the wire towards a conductor. If you charge the air around you with no exit for the current, the electrons will be passed around through the gas atoms and until used up. This will cause the atoms to torque and shift locations as well. So, there MAY be some science behind the idea that living things can tell when these things happen. Because it's like a sad clown tickling your butt with a feather. Whether you recognize the feather and the butt tickling is up to cognition. If you recognized.your butt was being tickled by a feather held by a sad clown you may attack the clown and further it's sadness. Nobody know the sex of this clown though.... if it were a chick clown and you wanted it...then, youd stick around and meditate,
The spark ingition of a lighter is a small quartz crystal with a wire on one end and a hammer on the other. When you push down on the spring loaded hammer, the hammer hits the crystal and a spark comes off the wire towards a conductor. If you charge the air around you with no exit for the current, the electrons will be passed around through the gas atoms and until used up. This will cause the atoms to torque and shift locations as well. So, there MAY be some science behind the idea that living things can tell when these things happen. Because it's like a sad clown tickling your butt with a feather. Whether you recognize the feather and the butt tickling is up to cognition. If you recognized.your butt was being tickled by a feather held by a sad clown you may attack the clown and further it's sadness. Nobody know the sex of this clown though.... if it were a chick clown and you wanted it...then, youd stick around and meditate,
MileHighGlassPipes
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Feelings have not been validated by the scientific process, thus you are not allowed to have them.
RuRu.The.Half.Elf
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l'm about to start vermicomposting..
(Edit)Are these unconventional?
What about mud dauber nests that have already hatched? Orange : Clay, Grey/Black : Soil. Usually each chamber contains fragments of insect or spiders, molt from the wasp pupate.
The slime from a fresh water fish tank filter?
Old beer that went rank?
(Edit)Are these unconventional?
What about mud dauber nests that have already hatched? Orange : Clay, Grey/Black : Soil. Usually each chamber contains fragments of insect or spiders, molt from the wasp pupate.
The slime from a fresh water fish tank filter?
Old beer that went rank?
RuRu.The.Half.Elf
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Also as an alternative to oyster flour, do you all think barnacle shells powdered would work? I could just put a thin paving slab in the intracoastal and it'll be loaded with them in a month.
DonBrennon
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You could I suppose, but it sounds like a lot of work for a bit of calcium, if you can't get oyster flour, get the grit and grind it up. It's very cheap at any feed store that sells chicken keeping supplies.
RuRu.The.Half.Elf
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Cuttlebone work as yet another calcium alternative? Cheap and usually at all pet stores. Even Wallyworld has it.
I could also harvest oysters themselves, they take a good time to get to size, but they are prolific. Thinking the thick foot plate would dull up a (blender/coffee grinder).
I could also use some pallet wood and collect worm coral (I like the name
).http://s183.photobucket.com/user/2558SW/media/IMG_0708.jpg.html
Not my photo but it is this stuff, turns to dust as you scrape it. A fine dust that floats away in the wind if it is too dry.
iHearAll
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What scale are you talking about implementing? If you have kilo of eggshells, char them and mix with a liter of vinegar uncover for a week. You can use it in waterings @ 1:100 dilution after the week long extraction. Or charred bones and you get phosphorus. Pretty much the cost of vinegar if you regularly eat eggs, chicken wings, ribs, hunting scraps, etc. I've found deer skeletons in the area. If you're talking about a garden bigger than 40x40 ft then you could build a rock crusher with an electric motor, a large metal tube conneted to the motor by bike chain and gear, and a car axle inside the tube. The tube spins and the axle rolls over the material you stuff it with. If you cover one end completely and the other you can put a small slit on to pour out the powder as it gets crushed. Tilt the entire crusher ever so slightly lower at the slit end. (Like a cm or less off balance). Then get loads of shells, quartz, bones, frog, birds, hands of orphans, your ex, your dick and balls,... whatever you got, and smash it. You can make azomite this way from rocks. Sustainable agriculture's method of trace elements.Cuttlebone work as yet another calcium alternative? Cheap and usually at all pet stores. Even Wallyworld has it.
I could also harvest oysters themselves, they take a good time to get to size, but they are prolific. Thinking the thick foot plate would dull up a (blender/coffee grinder).
I could also use some pallet wood and collect worm coral (I like the name
http://s183.photobucket.com/user/2558SW/media/IMG_0708.jpg.html
Not my photo but it is this stuff, turns to dust as you scrape it. A fine dust that floats away in the wind if it is too dry.
RuRu.The.Half.Elf
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No where near that much. Maybe a half pound total? Just being frugal/thrifty, rather do some work and spend less monies. I'll for sure get some orphans though. Does it matter if the hands are labored prior to crushing? JK
Michael Huntherz
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I liked the post on quartz, and I think there's a sense in which that statement is true, but I'm always wary. I fell for a lot of pseudoscience as a young person, and I see a lot of people suffering in real ways because of bad advice based on it.
The world of science is amazing enough to keep my interest, I don't need magic or mysticism.
Here's one the crystal folks will probably misappropriate any day now.
Beryl (emeralds and aquamarines are beryls) has tiny bits of water inside that are compressed into incredibly small spaces. Channels in the crystalline structure 5 angstroms wide. At very low temperatures it actually enters a state of quantum nonlocality for which there is no analog in our experience of the world. A single hydrogen atom is located in six different places along the channel simultaneously. I may have a few of the details inexact, I'm paraphrasing this:
https://www.ornl.gov/news/ornl-researchers-discover-new-state-water-molecule
Which says they've recreated this behavior in the lab.
Here's the wikipedia article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunneling_of_water
My little organic grow is going well enough, I wanted at least part of this rant on topic. I just flipped to 12/12.
One love...bitches.
iHearAll
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Both these are super dope!I liked the post on quartz, and I think there's a sense in which that statement is true, but I'm always wary. I fell for a lot of pseudoscience as a young person, and I see a lot of people suffering in real ways because of bad advice based on it.
The world of science is amazing enough to keep my interest, I don't need magic or mysticism.
Here's one the crystal folks will probably misappropriate any day now.
Beryl (emeralds and aquamarines are beryls) has tiny bits of water inside that are compressed into incredibly small spaces. Channels in the crystalline structure 5 angstroms wide. At very low temperatures it actually enters a state of quantum nonlocality for which there is no analog in our experience of the world. A single hydrogen atom is located in six different places along the channel simultaneously. I may have a few of the details inexact, I'm paraphrasing this:
https://www.ornl.gov/news/ornl-researchers-discover-new-state-water-molecule
Which says they've recreated this behavior in the lab.
Here's the wikipedia article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunneling_of_water
My little organic grow is going well enough, I wanted at least part of this rant on topic. I just flipped to 12/12.
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One love...bitches.
I think crystal meditation is certainly mystified meditation. When the real power is being reminded of simplicity and beauty of natural materials. The rocks a smooth to touch and easy to look at. So, it would make it just slightly easier to get to "that place" in our minds.
iHearAll
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/SA-10.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwi42siD5bHMAhWJWCYKHWFfByMQFggcMAA&usg=AFQjCNEIrTv9DFbzPz6E6DA5kFIHxyWLeg&sig2=ChIjrbBuYGwlekGnHAHyHw
Here's a scholarly article from University of Hawaii on water soluble calcium from eggs shells. So, if you want to attempt it, you'll have a solid amount of data. Or google "water soluble calcium" OR "charred eggs shells vinegar ". I don't think it lingers in the soil like lime does. I havent had any problems adding it sporadically (once a month in later veg).
DonBrennon
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Just don't use it as a foliar lol, or go very lightly with it, I wiped my last crop out with it. I may have gone a little strong on the application though, it totally fried most of my leaves just going into flower and the plants were never gonna be able to produce anything and are now an expensive mulch pmsl. Schoolboy error and lesson learned, I'll personally never use it as a foliar again and use it sparingly in a drench if I notice a specific cal def.
iHearAll
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Id wonder if the soil had enough calcium already. I use the bone calcium phosphate 2-3 time in late veg early flower and its fine. Definitely stay on the weak side with foliar sprays. Iv burned plants recently as well with mixing stuff together and having too much somewhere in.