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H.A.F.

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And I did the first shoot-pruning on the clone. I had been treating the clones like seedlings, waiting for the pot to get light before watering. The pot was still cool and heavy after 4 days so I said screw it and soaked it again - and it took off again. I think the roots are not that deep yet or there aren't that many.
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H.A.F.

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On that sugar-porn above, eyes are always drawn to the sparkly crystals, but check out that fish-bone leaf out of focus lower right :weed:

THAT more than anything is why I hate getting in there and pruning late in flower. Every time your hands come away smelling delicious, you rubbed some of those off :evil: I hate it when that happens! LOL

But it is why I have a gallon ziplock in the freezer and I save anything I do trim.
 

H.A.F.

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Clone update: Looking at the pic, which of the 4 clones would you expect to show roots first? Wrong. That's what I thought too. It's the 2 smaller ones on the left ;)
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Gollyboy

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I tied mine down yesterday I fucked up with the level of coco in my pots I'll upload a file when the girls r awake
 

H.A.F.

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Looking at what I have now, and knowing that the flower room will be empty in a month, I may just keep this established clone under the 135 forever to see what happens, and put (hopefully) 4 clones in the closet to fill it up.
 

H.A.F.

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Other clone notes. It has been about 2 weeks, so time for them to show roots anyway, but I soaked them 2 days ago and now it happens. Coincidence?

Same for the big clone. It was not drinking, then a few days ago I soaked it anyway - and it took off.

So clones are not seedlings - LOL
 

H.A.F.

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Good idea with the cups tho easy way to check root growth
I also split the cups in half down to the bottom, then tape it back together at the top. To transplant you just snip the tape, then open it like a present. Almost no transplant "shock" since I have started this, just the expected slow down while the roots stretch.
 

H.A.F.

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Clone mystery solved.
The "small" ones with green arrows have roots showing
The ones with red arrows don't show roots yet.
The yellow line is about where the heating element stops in the damn seed-mat! :wall:
bongsmilie Live and learn LOL

I also have been gently 'squishing' the cup a little around the top since I soaked it, to make sure there was good airflow.
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Fixed it, I predict roots in all 4 by lights on tonight.

Oh, and I had all the clones on the mat at first. The potted one looked sad, maybe for some unrelated issue, bit I moved it off to be safe. This was the result. And 'smart' me put the 'better' clone prospects closer to the light (and further from the heat)
 

H.A.F.

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I highly recommend plugging it into a temp controller with a temp probe. I can link a couple, but you're already on amazon. I use Inkbird and Willhi and they are worth their weight in gold.
I got the seed-mat thermostat, but had a few questions so I didn't plug it in yet. It says to put the probe into the 'medium' (soil) 1"-11" but not to submerge in water. I had just soaked the cups when it came in so I was hesitant. I am more worried about figuring it out for later seedlings, or a large crop of clones like I have planned for a SOG. Also these are clones, so I don't want any weaklings. The separation I have between the soil and the mat (about a half inch total) kept it from getting too warm. So it's the hunger games with them anyway - only the strong survive!

I can already see the benefit. So where do you put the probe in regards to the heat-mat? Will damp soil hurt it? What temp(s) do you recommend? Is it different for clones and seeds?
 
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H.A.F.

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Still nothing on the two. But massive growth on these roots. One was already leaving the soil, so I gently pushed some dirt into the hole so it wasn't in the open air while I get the transplant pot ready. I was looking for these when I stumbled across that 100-pot deal. They have Velcro on one side, and I put a piece of ice-maker tubing in the bottom to keep it round ;). I sewed it in about 6 spots just to hold it long enough for the dirt to settle.

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H.A.F.

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I just had an epiphany. I keep feeding at 50-75%, but my ppm are still in the range recommended when feeding 100%.
:confused: And my plant is thriving, and even showing signs of nute-burn.

Hellloooooo! McFlyyyyy!

I am feeding roughly 3 different Fox Farms nute-systems (all obviously compatible)
FoxFarm original trio
  • Big Bloom
  • Grow Big
  • Tiger Bloom
FoxFarm Gringo Rasta 3-Pack
FoxFarm BushDoctor Liquid Nutrients:
plus cal-mag,
plus manganese and silica after each flush.

So I'm not surprised there is a little nute burn ;)
 
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H.A.F.

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Free weed update:
I have the empty solo cup in the new pot to make sure the soil is about the right level. I watered about a pint in each 2 gallon pot, about half right around the cup, then let it soak in a few minutes.

When I pull the cup, I have a spray bottle ready to soak the soil inside if any is dry and to help hold the soil together and keep the hole from filling in, then I dust some Rhize-Up in the hole.

With the split cup, I water it the night before transplant then let it drain for a while (overnight) and it helps the soul stick together without waiting for it to get more rootbound.

I open it halfway then close it, roll it, then open the other side up just to make sure it doesn't stick - then replace your hand for the other side of the cup and roll it out. No turning it upside down, all the roots should just keep going, none torn or damaged, etc.
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