Help! Stalk split!!!!

Brother Sweetleaf

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Sounds great, ColaCody, and dayam, that girl looks fierce! Always err on the side of caution with fertilizers... Less is More! Over-fertilizing is not only an issue (that ultimately stunts one's yield) which you can easily avoid, but it could also be a sign that one is overthinking things. I advise that you find a tight group of compatible nutes & stick with that. You could experiment and explore to your heart's content-- for sure-- but guessing through trial & error, not even sure if you'll learn the proper lessons needed isn't as smart as growing good bud simply, using a minimum of highly-reputed & well-trusted products, thus costing you fewer dollars, and saving you lots of time, energy, problem-solving, harvested bud, & frustration. Sounds like you've already figured-out a great plan... Happy flowering!
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Colacody

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Hey guys....another question. I made a banana peel tea and watered the gorilla with it but I think maybe it got too much potassium. The ph of the banana peel tea was 6.2
The plant is less green than my durban by far and I'm wondering 2 things.

1. How bad is too much potassium from an organic source such as bananas?

2. How can I tell if it IS too much potassium?
 

Colacody

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Sounds great, ColaCody, and dayam, that girl looks fierce! Always err on the side of caution with fertilizers... Less is More! Over-fertilizing is not only an issue (that ultimately stunts one's yield) which you can easily avoid, but it could also be a sign that one is overthinking things. I advise that you find a tight group of compatible nutes & stick with that. You could experiment and explore to your heart's content-- for sure-- but guessing through trial & error, not even sure if you'll learn the proper lessons needed isn't as smart as growing good bud simply, using a minimum of highly-reputed & well-trusted products, thus costing you fewer dollars, and saving you lots of time, energy, problem-solving, harvested bud, & frustration. Sounds like you've already figured-out a great plan... Happy flowering!
:weed:

Yes for sure I've learned. I definitely will be buying 1 brand of a start to finish organic fert next time. Learned so much this time around.
 

Colacody

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Notice how the leaf tips are browning and curling UP and not down. Basically it will look like magnesium def.
This is exactly my problem.....how can I fix this? I'm assuming flush with water very well and add a stronger shot of super thrive? Bloom fert is coming Thursday a balanced one called bio thrive

I read the alchimia web one yesterday but that diagram is amazing.
 

FresnoFarmer

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This is exactly my problem.....how can I fix this? I'm assuming flush with water very well and add a stronger shot of super thrive? Bloom fert is coming Thursday a balanced one called bio thrive

I read the alchimia web one yesterday but that diagram is amazing.
I would stay away from superthrive in bloom. Just flush with water and add 1/2-3/4 strength nute solution afterwards. I had the same issue from high potassium in molasses. Flushed real well with ro water and added some fish hydrolysate. It seemed to sort it out for me.

https://percysgrowroom.com/potassium-excess/
 

Colacody

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I would stay away from superthrive in bloom. Just flush with water and add 1/2-3/4 strength nute solution afterwards. I had the same issue from high potassium in molasses. Flushed real well with ro water and added some fish hydrolysate. It seemed to sort it out for me.

https://percysgrowroom.com/potassium-excess/
So I'm gonna run the hose on it good tonight but do you think a fish fertilizer would help right now??? Its all I have and its 5 1 1
 

Growing24/7

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Had it happen to my nukens stem accidently a few weeks ago when doing LST while the pot was dry (Stupid mistake i learned a while ago but my baked and drunk ass still forgot)

I know from experience they can recover no problem but man, that nuken went from having a thick stalk to a thiccc stalk!! :) , didn't even slow down the growth time and it was cracked pretty bad, one half of the plant was on the ground, the other one was barely hanging lol. After taping up i didn't notice any more stress than normal, the nuken is already a tough strain to grow showing more stress than any of the other strains i've tried but splitting it in half didn't do shit lol.

Might have just helped the plant by putting energy into making a thick stalk!
 

FresnoFarmer

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Live and learn. Got that right lol. I would use the fish fertilizer if it show N deficiency. If not then water only should be fine.
 

FresnoFarmer

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Basically entire fan leaves yellowing from the bottom up. Or pale green leaves on the whole plant. Sometimes magnesium deficiency or lockout from excess potassium can look like nitrogen deficiency. Overall pale plants and yellowing lower leaves is a good indicator that your plant is nitrogen deficient. The leaves will usually just fall off. Magnesium def they will wither and die on the plant turning crispy and brown in the process and will need to be removed by hand most of the time.

Go through every deficiency on this site. You wont regret it. He does a real good job of describing deficiencies and has good suggestions on how to resolve the issue


https://percysgrowroom.com/nitrogen-deficiency/
 

Colacody

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Basically entire fan leaves yellowing from the bottom up. Or pale green leaves on the whole plant. Sometimes magnesium deficiency or lockout from excess potassium can look like nitrogen deficiency. Overall pale plants and yellowing lower leaves is a good indicator that your plant is nitrogen deficient. The leaves will usually just fall off. Magnesium def they will wither and die on the plant turning crispy and brown in the process and will need to be removed by hand most of the time.

Go through every deficiency on this site. You wont regret it. He does a real good job of describing deficiencies and has good suggestions on how to resolve the issue


https://percysgrowroom.com/nitrogen-deficiency/
Thanks man. Gonna be reciting it and memorizing it all basically
 

Colacody

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So I did what they said about the potassium overdose. I flushed the pot with water right now A LOT (approx 3 x the size of the pot) and will wait for the next watering in 3 days instead of 2 (or when its light enough to need water).

Will update soon
 

Brother Sweetleaf

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You're on the right path, ColaCody. You seem well-armed... That's good! But you need not go blastin' away with your entire armament! Some wisdom to gain from all this is that certain additives can certainly aid you in restoring balance, health, & vigor to your plants... But those same additives can just as easily throw your plants, your soil, & everything into distress & chaos! (Funny too, that you kept bringing-up your banana-peel tea, yet none of us foresaw your plant's Potassium overdose. Hindsight is 20/20!) Remember that these additives & fertilizers are to be used as additives, to supplement an already naturally existing plant (At least that's what I keep reminding myself). If you absolutely need to hyper-focus on something to support your plant, pay more attention to getting them THE most direct sunlight possible, making sure the water is measured for a proper pH (between 6.3 & 6.8 [6.5 is a perfect target to aim for]), bug-prevention, and mold-prevention. I'm not sure how the seasons go for you where you're at up there, but it gets kinda wet here in New England during the Autumn months, which makes mold & bud-rot a huge & disastrous issue. And I've always grown only outdoors (which I see you are as well), so I'm familiar also with some of the issues that bugs & pests could pose for you. What I'm saying here is: If you have extra energy to pour devotedly (or obsess neurotically) into your plant, let it be towards surviving against the hazards beyond your control; not self-created hazards of learning macro/micro-nutrients in relation to the periodic-table, dig? You pickin-up what the good Brother is layin' down for ya? You're good to back off the supps & let your girl restore to her clean & natural ways. Flushes are almost always a good thing. Cleanse. Remember-- I advised that you get & use the Superthrive, but only as a remedy against stress & trauma, and maybe rarely as a foliar-spray in the early morning with a diluted solution if I feel it's appropriate. (I try to keep the soil as chemical-free as I can. Superthrive rocks, but it's hardly "all-natural", so when I do feed it to the plant, I usually do it by spraying the leaves). So feel confident knowing that you're armed well, but rest easy that you need not really do very much shootin'. Focus on prevention; that's my recommendation.
;):leaf:
 

Colacody

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You're on the right path, ColaCody. You seem well-armed... That's good! But you need not go blastin' away with your entire armament! Some wisdom to gain from all this is that certain additives can certainly aid you in restoring balance, health, & vigor to your plants... But those same additives can just as easily throw your plants, your soil, & everything into distress & chaos! (Funny too, that you kept bringing-up your banana-peel tea, yet none of us foresaw your plant's Potassium overdose. Hindsight is 20/20!) Remember that these additives & fertilizers are to be used as additives, to supplement an already naturally existing plant (At least that's what I keep reminding myself). If you absolutely need to hyper-focus on something to support your plant, pay more attention to getting them THE most direct sunlight possible, making sure the water is measured for a proper pH (between 6.3 & 6.8 [6.5 is a perfect target to aim for]), bug-prevention, and mold-prevention. I'm not sure how the seasons go for you where you're at up there, but it gets kinda wet here in New England during the Autumn months, which makes mold & bud-rot a huge & disastrous issue. And I've always grown only outdoors (which I see you are as well), so I'm familiar also with some of the issues that bugs & pests could pose for you. What I'm saying here is: If you have extra energy to pour devotedly (or obsess neurotically) into your plant, let it be towards surviving against the hazards beyond your control; not self-created hazards of learning macro/micro-nutrients in relation to the periodic-table, dig? You pickin-up what the good Brother is layin' down for ya? You're good to back off the supps & let your girl restore to her clean & natural ways. Flushes are almost always a good thing. Cleanse. Remember-- I advised that you get & use the Superthrive, but only as a remedy against stress & trauma, and maybe rarely as a foliar-spray in the early morning with a diluted solution if I feel it's appropriate. (I try to keep the soil as chemical-free as I can. Superthrive rocks, but it's hardly "all-natural", so when I do feed it to the plant, I usually do it by spraying the leaves). So feel confident knowing that you're armed well, but rest easy that you need not really do very much shootin'. Focus on prevention; that's my recommendation.
;):leaf:
That's awesome man thanks a lot. Ya I'm seeing her this morning and she looks already relieved and more alive looking. I'm armed with info thanks a lot to this site and the great amount of knowledge from all of you growers in here. Much appreciated for all of your help.

She is in full sun in the best spot in my backyard which has sun from 1130 to around 730 pm. It is a good spot and she was happy until the crack and the banana tea overdose.

As for feeding her she's gonna get just water with a ph of 6.5 for a week to let her get her grip back on things. Bloom fert next week starting then. Going to start at 1/2 strength and go up. I'm seeing these buds start so I think she's about 2 weeks in to bud. What do you think?

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Brother Sweetleaf

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Wow, awesome... She looks great! Totally jelly, Broseph, because my girl is nowhere near that in her supposed "flowering", LOL. I've never before seen a plant begin blooming so late as my Cindarella99. Yours looks good, healthy, & buddy!
 

Colacody

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Wow, awesome... She looks great! Totally jelly, Broseph, because my girl is nowhere near that in her supposed "flowering", LOL. I've never before seen a plant begin blooming so late as my Cindarella99. Yours looks good, healthy, & buddy!
Thanks man. Hopefully she makes it all the way through. I'm happy I made it this far tho. It's been so much fun
 
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