Cookie Rider
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That song plays in my head, every time I read the word “war”
Who says that isn't one of their goals down the line? They are taking over a lot of territory in the Pacific and even building or expanding islands in the region. They already own huge swaths of Africa and much of it's critical infrastructure through overextending credit then foreclosing when payments can't be met as they predicted. A huge amount of American and Canadian manufacturing is now based in China and other Asian countries leaving us dependent on goods from there and increasing their economy while impoverishing ours.I would be equally appalled if China invaded Australia and claimed part of it as their own.
They also (if I am remembering right) cried about the sub deal between the UK, Australia, and America just like Russia does with Ukraine being armed.Who says that isn't one of their goals down the line? They are taking over a lot of territory in the Pacific and even building or expanding islands in the region. They already own huge swaths of Africa and much of it's critical infrastructure through overextending credit then foreclosing when payments can't be met as they predicted. A huge amount of American and Canadian manufacturing is now based in China and other Asian countries leaving us dependent on goods from there and increasing their economy while impoverishing ours.
Not to mention the vast amounts of US debt the Chinese own. Does not bode well.
It's almost as if Biden would have stood up to this clown it would be a different situation. Come on man. Ukraine helped him out with Hunter, he should help out Ukraine. I wonder if the Keystone pipeline would help? Could we export oil and natural gas if it was running? Yes, yes we could.
Now that's funny. Folks are already bitching about the new improved cost of commodities in the u.s. imagine what inflation would look like if we had to pay triple the price of spatchulas, toaster ovens and clothing because it was all manufactured in the states.They also (if I am remembering right) cried about the sub deal between the UK, Australia, and America just like Russia does with Ukraine being armed.
One thing I really hope comes from this pandemic is bringing much of our manufacturing home. I am not xenophobic about trade with China, and know it really was mutually beneficial. But our industry moving out of America so that they could pollute due to lax environmental laws and exploit labor there really should no longer be profitable.
Disney? Halliburton? Exxon? Think of the Stockholders!have you seen the size of Russia? and they need more space? + they can't have Ukraine we won't let them. my hope is that they are sanctioned so hard that the oligarchs economy crumbles.
we have options
I haven't seen an analysis one way or the other, I'm guessing that the pennies saved on wages from manufacturing in low wage centers are eaten up by inefficiencies due to such long supply chains. It's not as if saving a dollar on wages by manufacturing in a child slave labor shop in Pakistan makes much difference in the cost of 500 dollar Nikes.Now that's funny. Folks are already bitching about the new improved cost of commodities in the u.s. imagine what inflation would look like if we had to pay triple the price of spatchulas, toaster ovens and clothing because it was all manufactured in the states.
I haven't seen an analysis one way or the other, I'm guessing that the pennies saved on wages from manufacturing in low wage centers are eaten up by inefficiencies due to such long supply chains. It's not as if saving a dollar on wages by manufacturing in a child slave labor shop in Pakistan makes much difference in the cost of 500 dollar Nikes.
I haven't seen an analysis. All I've ever seen is rhetoric. How much more would goods cost if manufactured in the US? I haven't seen the numbers behind the claim that inflation would rocket upward if we brought manufacturing home.Pennies? There are entire stores dependent on Chinese manufacturing and low low prices.
It would all last 10X as long so be well worth the money. A 6-pack of t-shirts my wife bought me 4 years ago are all shop rags now but I have ones since my teen years 50 years ago that may be getting threadbare but don't tear apart when you take them off. Towels from Pakistan that just smear the water around but claim to be 100% cotton like my old Canadian made ones that soak up water like a sponge and are also 100% cotton.Now that's funny. Folks are already bitching about the new improved cost of commodities in the u.s. imagine what inflation would look like if we had to pay triple the price of spatchulas, toaster ovens and clothing because it was all manufactured in the states.
The big bitch about the pipelines out of Alberta here is they want to ship diluted bitumen from Ft. MacMoney which is environmentally more destructive than sweet crude. The line to BC is still under construction so in time it will go to the refineries out there and be loaded on to ships mainly going to US refineries but likely overseas to China etc. Lot of consternation on the west coast about shipwrecks fouling beaches and the mega-loss of tourist dollars. Already hurting from the collapse of the salmon and covid.I believe the keystone pipeline is Canadian and it carries Canadian crude.
Hard to see how we could export oil that isn't ours.
I'm thinking Joe Rob Legacy- what does he have to lose?..'Be bold and go where no man has gone'- a world without war.Disney? Halliburton? Exxon? Think of the Stockholders!
It's probably what Ukraine is about to a degree, it's a hostage, if NATO sanctions Russia too much, but especially if they confiscate his and his buddy's money stashed in the west.I'm thinking Joe Rob Legacy- what does he have to lose?..'Be bold and go where no man has gone'- a world without war.
Russia will be sanctioned so far up their asses they won't be able to sit down; they think Magnitzky is binding?
Biden promised hellfire in sanctions; Putin will wish he were dead for being a little Napoleon. 8 years of VP and how Putin treated Obama?
Make no mistake he's ready to pull the trigger.
Edwin Starr or Low Rider?That song plays in my head, every time I read the word “war”
they have so much shit in Florida it was yet another reason to leave that inhospitable HOT Hellscape..you see the Russians are fvcked..all that shits going to drop into the sea or swallowed by sinkhole..after living in SoFla for 35? i know a little more about that place than they do.It's probably what Ukraine is about to a degree, it's a hostage, if NATO sanctions Russia too much, but especially if they confiscate his and his buddy's money stashed in the west.
I know absolutism is what everyone loves to jump to, but it really is not necessary.Now that's funny. Folks are already bitching about the new improved cost of commodities in the u.s. imagine what inflation would look like if we had to pay triple the price of spatchulas, toaster ovens and clothing because it was all manufactured in the states.
Exactly. With technology today there is not much of a reason we cannot offset many of those issues from the 80-early 2000's that were going to cost our manufacturing a lot to upgrade to a cleaner process.I haven't seen an analysis. All I've ever seen is rhetoric. How much more would goods cost if manufactured in the US? I haven't seen the numbers behind the claim that inflation would rocket upward if we brought manufacturing home.
I've worked for companies where we moved production. It was all about giving the company tax breaks and special regulatory treatment. Yes, the labor was lower but that wasn't the driving factor and there were trade-offs that negated the benefits of lower wages. Lower wages made it possible to move the line by offsetting all the other additional expenses but they weren't the driving factor.
Communism is building a new Capitalist Industrial Park with even cheaper labor.They also (if I am remembering right) cried about the sub deal between the UK, Australia, and America just like Russia does with Ukraine being armed.
One thing I really hope comes from this pandemic is bringing much of our manufacturing home. I am not xenophobic about trade with China, and know it really was mutually beneficial. But our industry moving out of America so that they could pollute due to lax environmental laws and exploit labor there really should no longer be profitable.